The Thursday night democratic debate is done

[leftwinger]

1 minute ago, JoeAverage said:

Easier said than done.

It all boils down to who is going to pay.

 

 

 

We all pay for Health Insurance skimming off health care costs.

[JoeAverage]

1 hour ago, leftwinger said:

 

We all pay for Health Insurance skimming off health care costs.

Suppose it depends on your situation. Our current health insurance is not based off our household income and out of pocket costs have been running 1.6% of gross income the last few years. It would not stay the same under most of the Dem plans.

 

Just a fact of life, what some people get for "free", ends up costing someone else more.

[XavierOnassis]

15 minutes ago, JoeAverage said:

Suppose it depends on your situation. Our current health insurance is not based off our household income and out of pocket costs have been running 1.6% of gross income the last few years. It would not stay the same under most of the Dem plans.

 

Just a fact of life, what some people get for "free", ends up costing someone else more.

Then you have no reason to call yourself "Joe Average".

[Neomalthusian]

1 hour ago, leftwinger said:

 

We all pay for Health Insurance skimming off health care costs.

 

Don't fall for Warren's idiotic anti-insurance company propaganda.

 

Specifically, Warren said this in the debates: "Insurance companies last year sucked $23 billion in profits out of the system. How did they make that money? Every one of those $23 billion was made by an insurance company saying no to your health care coverage."

 

1) The ACA basically eliminated the ability to profit from denying coverage. They have to spend at least 80% of revenue on claims or refund the difference. There will always be isolated cases of disputed or denied coverage that make the news, but denial of care is not the norm and it's not how insurance companies profit.

2) The GD United States Government contracts with insurance companies to administer Medicare. If they're so evil, why do we do that?

3) Insurance companies administer a ton of self-insured plans, the parameters of which are set up by the entity that's self-insuring. So a company works with an insurance company to design a self-insured plan and the company tells the insurer, "let's not cover specialty drugs, they're way too expensive and too easy for patients to just request, preferred and generics are fine." When an insurance company (which manages the self-insured plan on behalf of the employer) comes back and reminds a patient "specialty drugs aren't covered," that is not an insurance company profiting from denying coverage. That is an insurance company stating the rule built into the plan design by the employer.

4) Insurance company profit is not why our health spending is so high. $23 billion is 0.6% of the nation's health spending.

 

Warren is trying harder than anyone to keep people dumb and angry.

 

I don't personally like Biden or his chances to beat Trump, but from a pure policy standpoint, his plan to fix a few key glitches in the ACA are the best thing put forth thus far.

[CrimeaRiver]

3 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Putin just threw a rock at me....and then his trolls chased me......IM a wreck, IM losing it!!

 

[JoeAverage]

15 minutes ago, Neomalthusian said:

 

Don't fall for Warren's idiotic anti-insurance company propaganda.

 

Specifically, Warren said this in the debates: "Insurance companies last year sucked $23 billion in profits out of the system. How did they make that money? Every one of those $23 billion was made by an insurance company saying no to your health care coverage."

 

1) The ACA basically eliminated the ability to profit from denying coverage. They have to spend at least 80% of revenue on claims or refund the difference. There will always be isolated cases of disputed or denied coverage that make the news, but denial of care is not the norm and it's not how insurance companies profit.

2) The GD United States Government contracts with insurance companies to administer Medicare. If they're so evil, why do we do that?

3) Insurance companies administer a ton of self-insured plans, the parameters of which are set up by the entity that's self-insuring. So a company works with an insurance company to design a self-insured plan and the company tells the insurer, "let's not cover specialty drugs, they're way too expensive and too easy for patients to just request, preferred and generics are fine." When an insurance company (which manages the self-insured plan on behalf of the employer) comes back and reminds a patient "specialty drugs aren't covered," that is not an insurance company profiting from denying coverage. That is an insurance company stating the rule built into the plan design by the employer.

4) Insurance company profit is not why our health spending is so high. $23 billion is 0.6% of the nation's health spending.

 

Warren is trying harder than anyone to keep people dumb and angry.

 

I don't personally like Biden or his chances to beat Trump, but from a pure policy standpoint, his plan to fix a few key glitches in the ACA are the best thing put forth thus far.

+10

 

Not to mention that State Actuaries dictate what a health insurance company can charge in any given state. Often raising the premiums when the company did not request an increase.

[JoeAverage]

19 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Then you have no reason to call yourself "Joe Average".

I put my pants on and go to work just like everyone else.

[Imgreatagain]

3 minutes ago, JoeAverage said:

I put my pants on and go to work just like everyone else.

Or if you are a stripper , you go to work and take your pants off. Just saying 

[king of the county]

9 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said:

Or if you are a stripper , you go to work and take your pants off. Just saying 

I like your thinking 

[leftwinger]

47 minutes ago, Neomalthusian said:

Don't fall for Warren's idiotic anti-insurance company propaganda.

 

shut up

[Neomalthusian]

59 minutes ago, leftwinger said:

shut up

 

As usual, you delete all the content because you have no ability to argue against any of it.

[leftwinger]

1 hour ago, Neomalthusian said:

 

 

You opened with a personal attack. I stop there.

[JinnMartini]

20 hours ago, Giujo said:

LOL... the trick is 2 martinis and some popcorn.

 

Jusssss for the records  .  .  .  you can't have two of me !

[1AC]

2 minutes ago, JinnMartini said:

 

Jusssss for the records  .  .  .  you can't have two of me !

Ah... but I only drink dirty vodka martinis... gin is just flavored vodka

[JinnMartini]

10 hours ago, king of the county said:

Not watching nfl neither should you 

 

Watching porn all day long, huh ?

 

Well, that ain't what most of us do, when we're not posting crap in here !

[king of the county]

Just now, JinnMartini said:

 

Watching porn all day long, huh ?

 

Well, that ain't what most of us do, when we're not posting crap in here !

Working at the Yankees it’s baseball season 

[1AC]

3 hours ago, Neomalthusian said:

 

Don't fall for Warren's idiotic anti-insurance company propaganda.

 

Specifically, Warren said this in the debates: "Insurance companies last year sucked $23 billion in profits out of the system. How did they make that money? Every one of those $23 billion was made by an insurance company saying no to your health care coverage."

 

1) The ACA basically eliminated the ability to profit from denying coverage. They have to spend at least 80% of revenue on claims or refund the difference. There will always be isolated cases of disputed or denied coverage that make the news, but denial of care is not the norm and it's not how insurance companies profit.

2) The GD United States Government contracts with insurance companies to administer Medicare. If they're so evil, why do we do that?

3) Insurance companies administer a ton of self-insured plans, the parameters of which are set up by the entity that's self-insuring. So a company works with an insurance company to design a self-insured plan and the company tells the insurer, "let's not cover specialty drugs, they're way too expensive and too easy for patients to just request, preferred and generics are fine." When an insurance company (which manages the self-insured plan on behalf of the employer) comes back and reminds a patient "specialty drugs aren't covered," that is not an insurance company profiting from denying coverage. That is an insurance company stating the rule built into the plan design by the employer.

4) Insurance company profit is not why our health spending is so high. $23 billion is 0.6% of the nation's health spending.

 

Warren is trying harder than anyone to keep people dumb and angry.

 

I don't personally like Biden or his chances to beat Trump, but from a pure policy standpoint, his plan to fix a few key glitches in the ACA are the best thing put forth thus far.

A very informative post thank you

[1AC]

15 hours ago, CrimeaRiver said:

 

Hey it's buckwheat...Otay!!!