WillFranklin Posted August 23 1 minute ago, jefftec said: *1. Ohhh clearly, you said it, so it's so......well, in reality, you're in fantasy land. *2. ....guess that makes a lot of sense...... ....Oooooopps, ....no it doesn't...... They are not supposed to BE here..... We make more money by just charging them a civil penalty payable over their lifetime. They come here and work and pay taxes. Why waste money fighting them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 Health Care - is not in the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Blue Devil said: Healthcare - is not in the Constitution. Oh.. some would say otherwise. I’d like to see us move to being a more health conscious country - prevention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jefftec Posted August 23 1 hour ago, WillFranklin said: We make more money by just charging them a civil penalty payable over their lifetime. They come here and work and pay taxes. Why waste money fighting them? .....Willie, let's stop the exploitation and the fighting.....they are not supposed to be here.... Send'em away.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillFranklin Posted August 23 14 minutes ago, jefftec said: .....Willie, let's stop the exploitation and the fighting.....they are not supposed to be here.... Send'em away.. Then you are probably not supposed to be here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillFranklin Posted August 23 16 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said: Oh.. some would say otherwise. I’d like to see us move to being a more health conscious country - prevention. The Republican "plan" which is for those that can't afford health care to do without it is written by psycopaths. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, WillFranklin said: The Republican "plan" which is for those that can't afford health care to do without it is written by psycopaths. I would say that people who live irresponsibly, eat crappy, don’t take of them selves- then come to me later in life to take care of their poor choices.. I’m not on board for that. And this is the common thread with poor, uneducated people. So my suggestion is to change life habits . It will save others $ later on.. no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillFranklin Posted August 23 Just now, Imgreatagain said: I would say that people who live irresponsibly, eat crappy, don’t take of them selves- then come to me later in life to take care of their poor choices.. I’m not on board for that. And this is the common thread with poor, uneducated people. So my suggestion is to change life habits . It will save others $ later on.. no? Many health problems are genetic. But no matter what causes them they should not cause financial ruin in the wealthiest country in the world while we waste so much money on military, and aid to Israel, fossil fuel subsidies, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, WillFranklin said: Many health problems are genetic. But no matter what causes them they should not cause financial ruin in the wealthiest country in the world while we waste so much money on military, and aid to Israel, fossil fuel subsidies, etc. How much money do we spend on drug addicts? Has it knocked even a dent in the problem? We are spinning our wheels and getting no where. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck615 Posted August 23 1 minute ago, WillFranklin said: Many health problems are genetic. But no matter what causes them they should not cause financial ruin in the wealthiest country in the world while we waste so much money on military, and aid to Israel, fossil fuel subsidies, etc. WE WASTE MONEY ON ILLEGALS... WAY MORE THAN THE ABOVE LISTED SHILLY WILLY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Duck615 said: WE WASTE MONEY ON ILLEGALS... WAY MORE THAN THE ABOVE LISTED SHILLY WILLY Do you realize how long it takes someone to become legal here? Upwards of 10 years. Why is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 24 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said: Oh.. some would say otherwise. I’d like to see us move to being a more health conscious country - prevention. "General Welfare" is fine. But when they put your name on the check? ...It's unconstitutional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Blue Devil said: "General Welfare" is fine. But when they put your name on the check? ...It's unconstitutional. What we are doing isn’t working. Left/right it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck615 Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said: Do you realize how long it takes someone to become legal here? Upwards of 10 years. Why is that? not my problem...If they do it right I welcome them!!! If they break our laws... they deserve what they get! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Duck615 said: not my problem...If they do it right I welcome them!!! If they break our laws... they deserve what they get! It is our problem. If it takes so long- they will just say screw it. Then skip it all. Do you not think by making that time shorter illegals would be more posed to go through the system legally? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Imgreatagain said: What we are doing isn’t working. Left/right it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t work. Agreed. There are many improvements in the pipeline, but the Democrat National Socialists keep blocking they in favor of Socialist Utopian Healthcare. And there is the issue of Liberty. The unalienable Right... to fail, of your own free will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Blue Devil said: Agreed. There are many improvements in the pipeline, but the Democrat National Socialists keep blocking they in favor of Socialist Utopian Healthcare. And there is the issue of Liberty. The unalienable Right... to fail, of your own free will. That in itself is the problem. Had I allowed my many failures to define me- I’d be in a ditch somewhere. My thirst for knowledge, success, happiness, joy and contentment has always kept me moving forward. I am not the measure of my mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 8 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said: Do you realize how long it takes someone to become legal here? Upwards of 10 years. Why is that? Study the immigration laws and procedures of Ellis Island... and it will make more sense to you. THAT - is what made America Great Again the second time around, after the Founding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Imgreatagain said: That in itself is the problem. Had I allowed my many failures to define me- I’d be in a ditch somewhere. My thirst for knowledge, success, happiness, joy and contentment has always kept me moving forward. I am not the measure of my mistakes. Mistakes - are how we learn. Nature's Learning Curve - is Pain and Discomfort. Liberty. You have the Unalienable Right to Fail, ...and Start Anew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Blue Devil said: Study the immigration laws and procedures of Ellis Island... and it will make more sense to you. THAT - is what made America Great Again the second time around, after the Founding. I’m right on top of that .. after I learn about every BMW.. ugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Blue Devil said: Liberty. You have the Unalienable Right to Fail, ...and Start Anew. I have to say - we have many worthless citizens here. I’d like to flush them too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Imgreatagain said: I’m right on top of that .. after I learn about every BMW.. ugh. Mistakes - are how we learn. Nature's Learning Curve - is Pain and Discomfort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imgreatagain Posted August 23 Just now, Blue Devil said: Mistakes - are how we learn. Nature's Learning Curve - is Pain and Discomfort. Pain isn’t necessary in learning. Discomfort is adjusting to change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Devil Posted August 23 Just now, Imgreatagain said: I have to say - we have many worthless citizens here. I’d like to flush them too. Again, Ellis Island, and the failure to preserve it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck615 Posted August 23 11 minutes ago, Imgreatagain said: It is our problem. If it takes so long- they will just say screw it. Then skip it all. Do you not think by making that time shorter illegals would be more posed to go through the system legally? I disagree, liberals are helping illegals because they need the votes... THAT'S IT!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
