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43 minutes ago, fourputt said:

Hard to believe right wingnuts would accuse and try to brand Democrats as evil for doing things they would be proud of.

 

No, the Democratic Party didn’t create the Ku Klux Klan ...

President Donald Trump has faced criticism for normalizing white nationalists but some conservative bloggers are trying to flip the script, shooing the Ku Klux Klan out of the "Big Tent" and into liberal territory.  

"I hate when people aren’t smart enough to realize that the KKK was formed by the Democratic Party," reads a Facebook post from Oct. 11, 2017. This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) Though the post is a year old, it continues to circulate online, generating nearly 27,000 shares and 840 comments, many as recently as a day ago.

 

"Just so you know," the post goes on, "the Ku Klux Klan’s original purpose was to oppose the Republican Party’s policies intended to establish economic and political equality for blacks (sic) folks after the Civil War."

Facebook isn’t the only place this idea has spread.

 

Back in 2013, Virginia State Sen. Stephen Martin also claimed that the KKK was created by Democrats. The Republican lawmaker soon retracted the statement after after PolitiFact Virginia started to investigate the origins of the KKK.

 

Reporter Sean Gorman discovered then that the group’s founding is murky but that "historians generally agree it was founded by a handful of Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn. as a social fraternity and it quickly changed into a violent group that terrorized newly empowered black and white Republicans in the South."

One historian confirmed there’s a historic link between the Democrats and the KKK: Many angry Southern whites during the 1860s and 1870s were Democrats, and some joined the KKK. But according to J. Michael Martinez, who wrote the 2007 book "Carpetbaggers, Cavalry and the KKK," it’s lie to say the Democratic Party founded the Klan.

 

It was a more of a grassroots creation, Martinez said. Plus, the Democratic Party of the past is not the Democratic Party of today. From the 1930s onward, "you think of the Democratic Party being considered the party of the disenfranchised," he said.

 

Carole Emberton, an associated professor at the University of Buffalo, agreed.

 

"Although the names stayed the same, the platforms of the two parties reversed each other in the mid-20th century, due in large part to the white ‘Dixiecrats’ flight out of the Democratic Party and into the Republican Party after the passage of the Democrat sponsored Civil Rights Act of 1964," she said.

 

Back in the mid-19th century, various Klans in the South acted as a "strong arm" for many local Democratic politicians, Emberton said. The Confederate general believed to be the KKK’s first Grand Dragon even spoke at the 1868 Democratic National Convention. By the time the Civil Rights Act became law, the Democratic Party supported so-called liberal causes that "had been the banner of the Republican Party."

 

While some Democrats supported the KKK, there’s  no evidence the group was founded by their political party. And context matters—the anti-black Democratic Party of yore is not the party that Hillary Clinton belongs to today.

 

The KKK and other Nazi and White supremacist Republican sponsored groups are responsible for this false narrative and since a lie can go half way around the world while the Truth is still putting on its shoes the only thing that will shut down this lie IMO would be 6 months of martial law and snipers.

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6 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

If you hadn't noticed, I'm not a general.  I'm a director of reimbursement.  Totally different skill set.

 

Are you a general?

 

The generals and other military analysts calculated the loss of both American lives and Japanese lives would be staggering.

 

Heck, the high estimates were 1.7–4 million American casualties, including 400,000–800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities.

 

Japanese citizens would have fought for their Emperor.

 

You should stick with being a billing and coding functionary and leave world affairs to people with more brains than yourself.

 

Bill

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5 hours ago, SpyCar said:

 

You are profoundly ignorant. That's not the case. Estimates of a US invasion of Japan were that one million people would die.

 

Get an education, Trumpist.

 

Bill

 

You're a lying piece of sh|t !

 

In the last days before the droppings the Japanese did their utmost best to surrender.

The US did not receive their ambassador and ignored all the missives.

 

THE NUKES SIMPLY HAD TO BE DROPPED TO TEST THEIR TRUE IMPACT ON CITIES !

If not then, there would be no more justifiable occasion.

 

Of course no one thought Vietnam could be an option at that time.

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17 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

The generals and other military analysts calculated the loss of both American lives and Japanese lives would be staggering.

 

Heck, the high estimates were 1.7–4 million American casualties, including 400,000–800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities.

 

Japanese citizens would have fought for their Emperor.

 

 

Bill

So you're not a general, huh?  Sounds like you're more of a keyboard commando.  It's really easy to scream, "Kill, kill, kill!" from the safe confines of your PC.....especially when it's not you gathering up the charred corpses.  

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15 hours ago, SpyCar said:

All of Europe would be NAZI  .  .  . 

 

And they'd probably be far better off than be led by that bunch of drunk, pervert parasites there in Brussels

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55 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

So you're not a general, huh?  Sounds like you're more of a keyboard commando.  It's really easy to scream, "Kill, kill, kill!" from the safe confines of your PC.....especially when it's not you gathering up the charred corpses.  

 

I've never said: Kill, kill, kill, you fucking loon.

 

You fascist-enabling isolationists are the biggest threats to world peace. Your kind aided Hitler in the 1930. You got us Trump

 

Pull your head out of your ass (if that's possible).

 

Bill

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8 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

I've never said: Kill, kill, kill, you Bad wording loon.

No doubt you were thinking it, though.  I've got you pegged.

 

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You fascist-enabling isolationists are the biggest threats to world peace. Your kind aided Hitler in the 1930. You got us Trump

 

Pull your head out of your ass (if that's possible).

 

Bill

You're hilarious.  I despise fascism and I didn't vote for Trump.  I've told you that a zillion times, yet you continue to defer to the voices in your head.  Take your meds, skippy.  The gears are slipping more than you realize.

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12 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

No doubt you were thinking it, though.  I've got you pegged.

 

Your hilarious.  I despise fascism and I didn't vote for Trump.  I've told you that a zillion times, yet you continue to defer to the voices in your head.  Take your meds, skippy.  The gears are slipping more than you realize.

 

You are a fool. You have nothing "pegged."

 

You enable fascism with your actions. What did you do when we faced the treat of Trumpism?

 

You attacked Trump's opponent, funded a group that suppressed the Democratic vote (which gave Trump his margin), and didn't vote yourself.

 

Some anti-fascist you are.

 

Bill

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9 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

You are a fool. You have nothing "pegged."

 

You enable fascism with your actions. What did you do when we faced the treat of Trumpism?

 

You attacked Trump's opponent, funded a group that suppressed the Democratic vote (which gave Trump his margin), and didn't vote yourself.

 

Some anti-fascist you are.

 

Bill

We had fascist and a war-happy corporate whore on the ballot.  I didn't want either one.

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5 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

We had fascist and a war-happy corporate whore on the ballot.  I didn't want either one.

 

We invaded which countries while HRC was Sec of State?

 

You are an idiot. With fascism on the rise, you attacked the liberal Democrat.

 

YOU are an enabler of fascism.

 

Fool.

 

Bill

 

 

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Fred Trump was arrested at a Klan rally in Queens in the 1920s.

 

The Trump Org always discriminated against blacks in their housing projects.

 

Like father, like son.

 

Bill

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The only President that would have the chutzpah to drop the bomb was Harry Truman whom I PROUDLY

claim as a Democrat!  He knew ending the war sooner rather than later meant many Americans lives.....men and women

sitting in POW camps starving to death NOW --- dead a year from now if you wait for an invasion.

 

We would be speaking German and Japanese now if the Repubs had been in charge.

 

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18 minutes ago, Scout said:

We would be speaking German and Japanese now if the Repubs had been in charge.

 

You're proving yourself an idiot, as usual, Scout.   But carry on.   :lol:

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3 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

You're proving yourself an idiot, as usual, Scout.   But carry on.   :lol:

 

You'd have been an America Firster then, just as you are now.

 

Scout is spot-on. You are a friend of fascism.

 

Bill

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28 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

We invaded which countries while HRC was Sec of State?

 

You are an idiot. With fascism on the rise, you attacked the liberal Democrat.

 

YOU are an enabler of fascism.

 

Fool.

 

Bill

Shrillary was/is a corporate Democrat.  Hundreds of millions in corporate donations....

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11 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Shrillary was/is a corporate Democrat.  Hundreds of millions in corporate donations....

 

People reasoned HRC would help build on the successful recovery begun under President Obama.

 

How horrible to want a good economy. LOL.

 

You don't mind the money donated to BS by slackers who were enticed by free stuff paid for with other people's money.

 

HRC helped expand healthcare to millions of poor children under the CHIP program. BS re-named two post offices and howled at the moon.

 

Meanwhile, HRC started no new wars as Sec of State. Some "war monger." 

 

As I said, you are a fool.

 

Bill

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10 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

People reasoned HRC would help build on the successful recovery begun under President Obama.

 

How horrible to want a good economy. LOL.

 

You don't mind the money donated to BS by slackers who were enticed by free stuff paid for with other people's money.

 

HRC helped expand healthcare to millions of poor children under the CHIP program. BS re-named two post offices and howled at the moon.

 

Meanwhile, HRC started no new wars as Sec of State. Some "war monger." 

 

As I said, you are a fool.

 

Bill

^^^ LOVES corporate whores.  Newsflash, skippy:  accepting massive checks from big banks, big pharma, and big insurance doesn't help the economy.  It helps Hillary.  It also sends the message that she cares far more about her donors than she does her voters.

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5 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

^^^ LOVES corporate whores.

 

You are such a fool.

 

You think you can destroy an economy while getting people to work.

 

You'd have the rich pay for everything, but eliminate all rich people. LOL.

 

The problem with socialism is that you run out of other people's money.

 

BS is a pied piper. You dance to his tune.

 

Bill

 

 

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Running out of other peoples' money has never actually happened. It is a stupid slogan and a favorite of Maggie Thatcher. I would like to see us TRY to run out of the Koch Brother's money. I bet it would last a really, really loooong time.  As would running out of George Soro's money, Carl Icahn's money or Warren Buffett's money.

The present US government combines socialism with capitalism. There are no countries that do not have elements of each of these.

 

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7 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Running out of other peoples' money has never actually happened. It is a stupid slogan and a favorite of Maggie Thatcher. I would like to see us TRY to run out of the Koch Brother's money. I bet it would last a really, really loooong time.  As would running out of George Soro's money, Carl Icahn's money or Warren Buffett's money.

The present US government combines socialism with capitalism. There are no countries that do not have elements of each of these.

 

 

The dumbest argument ever is that police, fire, roads, schools, etc are examples of socialism.

 

It just ain't so.

 

We do not have a socialist economy.

 

Bill

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

The dumbest argument ever is that police, fire, roads, schools, etc are examples of socialism.

 

It just ain't so.

 

We do not have a socialist economy.

 

Bill

Which is why the dems will lose in 2020.

 

Not Bill

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Just now, personreal said:

Which is why the dems will lose in 2020.

 

Not Bill

 

Not a bit.

 

Joe Biden isn't a socialist and Americans rightfully know he'll restore the country to sanity.

 

Unfortunately, it is likely he'll need to pull us out of another Republican caused recession. 

 

Bond yield are looking very scary. Nice going, morons!

 

Bill

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9 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

 

The dumbest argument ever is that police, fire, roads, schools, etc are examples of socialism.

 

It just ain't so.

 

We do not have a socialist economy.

 

Bill

 Those agencies are paid for with local taxpayers money and local bonds. If they were socialist the central government would own them. My agencies are owned and operated by either my city or county, not the federal government. They do get some funding from them for special programs, but that's about all. Now if you get into our military, FBI ,CIA, and all the other federal agencies, you may be getting close to socialism, but we could never afford to pay for those agencies on a local level. It would take a hell of a bake sale. 

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On 8/13/2019 at 3:12 PM, personreal said:

The same party that founded the KKK.

 

DEMOCRATS!

Blaming a party on the acts of individuals! Gahhhh

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1 minute ago, nuckin futz said:

Blaming a party on the acts of individuals! Gahhhh

^^  Admission  ^^

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