leftwinger Posted August 13 In the years since, he’s watched as the president restricted abortion access, rolled back gay rights and tried to reduce both legal and illegal immigration. He’s listened as Trump has made racist statements and been accused of rape. He has reached the same conclusion as so many evangelicals across the country: In 2020, he’ll support the president. This time, it won’t be a hard choice. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/evangelicals-arent-turned-off-by-trumps-first-term--theyre-delighted-by-it/2019/08/11/3911bc88-a990-11e9-a3a6-ab670962db05_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BatteryPowered Posted August 13 Liberals simply cannot wrap their minds around the notion that the overwhelming majority of Evangelicals and most Christian conservatives (there is a difference) don't look to the President to be their spiritual compass. For them, politics and the person are separate issues. Personally, I don't need ANY elected official to lead an exemplary life according to my religious beliefs. That is not their job. Their job is to do everything possible to enact the things they promoted during their campaign, because that is why I vote for them. I understand they won't get everything accomplished. Hell, they may only get a small percentage accomplished. But it's like the answer to the question; How do you eat a hippopotamus? One bite at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 Just now, BatteryPowered said: Liberals seemingly cannot wrap their minds around the notion that the overwhelming majority of Evangelicals and most Christian conservatives (there is a difference) don't look to the President to be their spiritual compass. For them, politics and the person are separate issues. Personally, I don't need ANY elected official to lead an exemplary life according to my religious beliefs. That is not their job. Their job is to do everything possible to enact the things they promoted during their campaign, because that is why I vote for them. I understand they won't get everything accomplished. Hell, they may only get a small percentage accomplished. But it's like the answer to the question; How do you eat a hippopotamus? One bite at a time. Why proclaim to be a Christian if it never affects your actions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skans Posted August 13 Just now, leftwinger said: Why proclaim to be a Christian if it never affects your actions? Liberals are "perfect". And their sense of their own perfection is why they are Atheists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 Just now, Skans said: Liberals are "perfect". And their sense of their own perfection is why they are Atheists. that made no sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BatteryPowered Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, leftwinger said: Why proclaim to be a Christian if it never affects your actions? Who said it didn't affect MY actions? I don't expect a politician to conduct themselves according to my religious beliefs....just like I don't expect it from my doctor, yard service, plumber, the young lady that cuts my hair, etc. That is unreasonable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skans Posted August 13 Just now, leftwinger said: that made no sense I'm sure it made no sense to you. In fact, I'm positive of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 Just now, Skans said: I'm sure it made no sense to you. In fact, I'm positive of that. You're inarticulate. That much we agree on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skans Posted August 13 1 minute ago, leftwinger said: You're inarticulate. That much we agree on. We do not agree on anything. You are blinded by your own arrogance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Skans said: We do not agree on anything. You are blinded by your own arrogance. You're just inarticulate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XavierOnassis Posted August 13 Evangelicals are defined as people who seek to convert others to the version of the Christian faith that they adhere to. And there are LOTS of different versions of Christianity. So it is illogical to say that ALL Evangelicals like Trump. There are sure to be some that find his infidelity, his past affirmations that he is an atheist, his belief that celebrities can and should grab any pussy that they wish, and to bilk future houseflippers with a phony "university" distasteful enough to not vote for him. In America today, the most evangelical of evangelicals- those that seek to win clients with the greatest desire are probably not considered evangelicals: the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witlesses. The latter do not vote as a rule: it is against their religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skans Posted August 13 1 minute ago, leftwinger said: You're just inarticulate. No, I just don't believe in "spoon-feeding" adults. If you do not understand what I wrote, then there is a good reason for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBHWT Posted August 13 3 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: Evangelicals are defined as people who seek to convert others to the version of the Christian faith that they adhere to. And there are LOTS of different versions of Christianity. So it is illogical to say that ALL Evangelicals like Trump. There are sure to be some that find his infidelity, his past affirmations that he is an atheist, his belief that celebrities can and should grab any pussy that they wish, and to bilk future houseflippers with a phony "university" distasteful enough to not vote for him. In America today, the most evangelical of evangelicals- those that seek to win clients with the greatest desire are probably not considered evangelicals: the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witlesses. The latter do not vote as a rule: it is against their religion. AH^^^^^^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Skans said: No, I just don't believe in "spoon-feeding" adults. If you do not understand what I wrote, then there is a good reason for that. Because you're a dope. And you have nothing to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix68 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, leftwinger said: Evangelicals aren’t turned off by Trump’s first term — they’re delighted by it You heard-about-that, huh?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superds77 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: So it is illogical to say that ALL Evangelicals like Trump. Which is why it was not said. Most definitely do. Most are aware of Trump's past. Most have a past of their own. Thing is, policy-wise, Trump has been the best POTUS we Christians have seen in their lifetimes, bar none. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 1 minute ago, superds77 said: Which is why it was not said. Most definitely do. Most are aware of Trump's past. Most have a past of their own. Thing is, policy-wise, Trump has been the best POTUS we Christians have seen in their lifetimes, bar none. What part of Jesus' teaching is Trump fulfilling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superds77 Posted August 13 16 minutes ago, Skans said: Liberals are "perfect". And their sense of their own perfection is why they are Atheists. I get exactly what you are saying skans. Liberal atheists love to play the "hypocrite card" against professing Christians, as if that means we are perfect people. I love it when atheists try to decide who is and who is not a Christian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix68 Posted August 13 1 minute ago, superds77 said: Which is why it was not said. Most definitely do. Most are aware of Trump's past. Most have a past of their own. Thing is, policy-wise, Trump has been the best POTUS we Christians have seen in their lifetimes, bar none. Quote Immoral Majority August 8, 2019 "Sixty-eight percent of white evangelical Protestants said the country has no responsibility for refugees. No other demographic group came within 10 points of that result." November 3, 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix68 Posted August 13 Quote More conservative stupidity re abortion August 21, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 10:43 AM, Scout said: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, superds77 said: I get exactly what you are saying skans. Liberal atheists love to play the "hypocrite card" against professing Christians, as if that means we are perfect people. I love it when atheists try to decide who is and who is not a Christian. Nothing you said is about the topic. You should try reading the original post before opining. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BatteryPowered Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, leftwinger said: What part of Jesus' teaching is Trump fulfilling? That's not his job. Why is that so hard for liberals to understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuckin futz Posted August 13 12 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: Evangelicals are defined as people who seek to convert others to the version of the Christian faith that they adhere to. And there are LOTS of different versions of Christianity. So it is illogical to say that ALL Evangelicals like Trump. There are sure to be some that find his infidelity, his past affirmations that he is an atheist, his belief that celebrities can and should grab any pussy that they wish, and to bilk future houseflippers with a phony "university" distasteful enough to not vote for him. In America today, the most evangelical of evangelicals- those that seek to win clients with the greatest desire are probably not considered evangelicals: the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witlesses. The latter do not vote as a rule: it is against their religion. Good! We found another group of religious wackos we can crap on! I used to see a cute JW girl when I was younger! She went all wacko and even thought her parents were evil! She ran off with some JW scrounge to Wyoming! CULT INDOCTRINATION! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leftwinger Posted August 13 Just now, BatteryPowered said: That's not his job. Why is that so hard for liberals to understand? Huh? You do realize the topic is evangelicals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superds77 Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, Phoenix68 said: Quote On 8/21/2018 at 10:43 AM, Scout said: Peenix, no one is asking the government to make PP illegal, just that taxpayers should not have to pay for it. Secondly, women can get cheap contraceptives many places other than PP. There is almost nobody who wants to limit ACCESS to contraceptives, we just dont want to pay for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
