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Why We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy 

 
 
 
wewilliams_0.jpg?itok=G5gASuRv   Walter E. Williams | January 19, 2018

 

 
     
Why We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy

 

Hillary Clinton blamed the Electoral College for her stunning defeat in the 2016 presidential election in her latest memoirs, “What Happened.”

 

Some have claimed that the Electoral College is one of the most dangerous institutions in American politics.

 

Why? They say the Electoral College system, as opposed to a simple majority vote, distorts the one-person, one-vote principle of democracy because electoral votes are not distributed according to population.

 

To back up their claim, they point out that the Electoral College gives, for example, Wyoming citizens disproportionate weight in a presidential election.

Put another way, Wyoming, a state with a population of about 600,000, has one member in the House of Representatives and two members in the U.S. Senate, which gives the citizens of Wyoming three electoral votes, or one electoral vote per 200,000 people.

 

California, our most populous state, has more than 39 million people and 55 electoral votes, or approximately one vote per 715,000 people.

Comparatively, individuals in Wyoming have nearly four times the power in the Electoral College as Californians.

 

Many people whine that using the Electoral College instead of the popular vote and majority rule is undemocratic. I’d say that they are absolutely right. Not deciding who will be the president by majority rule is not democracy.

 

But the Founding Fathers went to great lengths to ensure that we were a republic and not a democracy. In fact, the word democracy does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, or any other of our founding documents.

 

How about a few quotations expressed by the Founders about democracy?

 

In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wanted to prevent rule by majority faction, saying, “Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.”

 

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

 

Edmund Randolph said, “That in tracing these evils to their origin, every man had found it in the turbulence and follies of democracy.”

 

Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

 

The Founders expressed contempt for the tyranny of majority rule, and throughout our Constitution, they placed impediments to that tyranny. Two houses of Congress pose one obstacle to majority rule. That is, 51 senators can block the wishes of 435 representatives and 49 senators.

 

The president can veto the wishes of 535 members of Congress. It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress to override a presidential veto.

 

To change the Constitution requires not a majority but a two-thirds vote of both houses, and if an amendment is approved, it requires ratification by three-fourths of state legislatures.

 

Finally, the Electoral College is yet another measure that thwarts majority rule. It makes sure that the highly populated states—today, mainly 12 on the east and west coasts, cannot run roughshod over the rest of the nation. That forces a presidential candidate to take into consideration the wishes of the other 38 states.

 

Those Americans obsessed with rule by popular majorities might want to get rid of the Senate, where states, regardless of population, have two senators.

 

Should we change representation in the House of Representatives to a system of proportional representation and eliminate the guarantee that each state gets at least one representative?

 

Currently, seven states with populations of 1 million or fewer have one representative, thus giving them disproportionate influence in Congress.

 

While we’re at it, should we make all congressional acts by majority rule? When we’re finished with establishing majority rule in Congress, should we then move to change our court system, which requires unanimity in jury decisions, to a simple majority rule?

 

My question is: Is it ignorance of or contempt for our Constitution that fuels the movement to abolish the Electoral College?

 

This article has been republished with permission from The Daily Signal.

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That is horsesh!t. This is both a republic AND a democracy.

Republic only means that we have no hereditary monarch.

Are we to assume that you call yourself "Spartan" because you are into militaristic buggery as were the original Spartans.

Or do you take your moniker from a failed contraceptive device that resulted in your existence?

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9 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

That is horsesh!t. This is both a republic AND a democracy.

Republic only means that we have no hereditary monarch.

Are we to assume that you call yourself "Spartan" because you are into militaristic buggery as were the original Spartans.

Or do you take your moniker from a failed contraceptive device that resulted in your existence?

Always keep it classy.

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29 minutes ago, Spartan said:

Why We Are a Republic, Not a Democracy 

 

Meaningless distinction with no Constitutional or legal authority.

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Technically, we're both. Unfortunately at the time rural American's  were too stupid to know what's good for them. Obviously they still are.

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3 minutes ago, JeanMoulin said:

Technically, we're both. Unfortunately at the time rural American's  were too stupid to know what's good for them. Obviously they still are.

 

b(1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law

 

We ARE a REPUBLIC, and AS FAR FROM A DEMOCRACY as you can get.

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58 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

That is horsesh!t. This is both a republic AND a democracy.

Republic only means that we have no hereditary monarch.

Are we to assume that you call yourself "Spartan" because you are into militaristic buggery as were the original Spartans.

Or do you take your moniker from a failed contraceptive device that resulted in your existence?

 

Ha ha ha ha ha.  I like it.  We are a Democratic Republic where the majority is supposed to rule. 

 

At this point in our history, the so-called Electoral College is archaic.  

 

The Electoral College contradicts the will of the people and there is every indication that it will, eventually vanish, along with slavery and the all-male vote.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-movement-to-skip-the-electoral-college-just-passed-a-major-milestone/

 

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We were once a Federal Republic

 

 

Now we are in reality...where the rubber meets the road......a TWO PARTY OLIGARCHY

 

 

voting IS NEAR MEANINGLESS

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Williams is an idiot and always has been.  Ever since Glenn Beck told you brainwashed MORONS to think this bit of stupidity I have been hearing it over and over. IT is a  LIE we ARE a democracy. A republic and a democracy are NOT mutually exclusive

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

 

 a government in which the supreme power is vestedin the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

 

Stop embarrassing yourself with your stupidiity and by showcasing how brainwashed you are

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17 minutes ago, CrimeaRiver said:

We were once a Federal Republic

 

 

Now we are in reality...where the rubber meets the road......a TWO PARTY OLIGARCHY

 

 

voting IS NEAR MEANINGLESS

Just what one would expect from a Russian disinformation hireling.

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28 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

Just what one would expect from a Russian disinformation hireling.

Your paranoid narcissist delusions are eating you alive.....please get help  :) 

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Shut  up PUNK Everyone KNOWS you are a paid Russian Troll.  You are terrible at it. Putin needs to FIRE and replace you

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17 minutes ago, Debs said:

Shut  up PUNK Everyone KNOWS you are a paid Russian Troll.  You are terrible at it. Putin needs to FIRE and replace you

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Oh how cute another CHILDISH PUNK post by Max. He KNOWs he is too STUPID to even try any other kind.  He IMAGINES that it upsets me to PUNK inbred MORONS like him and Crime and Spartan once I again EVERYONE NOTICES that he never even TRIED to address the FACT that Spartan is a brainwashed MORON and his claim is GARBAGE. WE know why. He is too STUPID to try. Meanwhile Triggered? This is fun and entertainment for me. Trollstabbing is a moral imperative and its FUN when it gets BORING I go do something else. I guess the emotional investment is all MaxiPADs.  Such a  pathetic LOSER

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1 hour ago, Debs said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

 

 a government in which the supreme power is vestedin the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

 

Stop embarrassing yourself with your stupidiity and by showcasing how brainwashed you are

Damn, smacked that ignorant twaddle aside like a gnat!

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Astonishing the amount of self-serving and ignorant rhetoric spouted here by those of a particular political bent.  Lots of insults too; I simply cited a historically factual viewpoint and was targeted with all kinds of vile insults.

 

Just goes to show: America is fractured.  There is the totalitarian authoritarianism of the extreme left, combined with their efforts to twist and corrupt the Constitution, and their efforts to denigrate and browbeat any opposition into submission with hyperbole and propaganda.

 

I don't know how much longer this situation will remain tenable before the muskets will be coming off the wall.

 

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6 minutes ago, Spartan said:

Just goes to show: America is fractured.

 

Trump thinks nazis are good people. Start there.

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Just now, leftwinger said:

 

Trump thinks nazis are good people. Start there.

 

I hate Trump and find him detestable.  Maybe you need to work on your intellectual flexibility.

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Just now, Spartan said:

 Maybe you need to work on your intellectual flexibility.

 

No idea what that meant.

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6 hours ago, Spartan said:

 wewilliams_0.jpg?itok=G5gASuRv  Walter E. Williams | January 19, 2018

Hillary Clinton blamed the Electoral College for her stunning defeat in the 2016 presidential election in her latest memoirs, “What Happened.”

 

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He actually starts-out with a lie?

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I guess.....subbing, for Porky Limbaugh (during one o' Porky's medication-events), can start someone down-that-road.

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2 minutes ago, Phoenix68 said:

 

relaxing-outside-smiley-emoticon.gif

He actually starts-out with a lie?

hitchens-razor.png

 

I guess.....subbing, for Porky Limbaugh (during one o' Porky's medication-events), can start someone down-that-road.

3 minutes ago, Phoenix68 said:

Hillary Clinton blamed the Electoral College for her stunning defeat in the 2016 presidential election in her latest memoirs, “What Happened.”

That is entirely accurate.

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6 hours ago, XavierOnassis said:

That is horsesh!t. This is both a republic AND a democracy.

Republic only means that we have no hereditary monarch.

Are we to assume that you call yourself "Spartan" because you are into militaristic buggery as were the original Spartans.

Or do you take your moniker from a failed contraceptive device that resulted in your existence?

Like Hitler, Rethugs HATE democracy! The Fuehrer in Chief is doing his best to destroy what little we had left of democracy!

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