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1 minute ago, Chiseler said:

and out comes the what about hitler 

who did that leftist kill again?  mostly white people?

 

Are Jews White folk??

i know the apartheid white gumamint of South Africa made the  Japanese honorary whites , but I’m not sure about the Jews.

you seem to know a lot about these matters so your guidance is appreciated.

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7 minutes ago, harryramar said:

White folk are the real victims here.

hitler was white if I recall correctly.

he got a bad rap and made conservatives look bad.

hitler was a European liberal....as far from Washington or Jefferson as you could get....more like Obama and Clinton....

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Just now, bigsky said:

hitler was a European liberal....as far from Washington or Jefferson as you could get....more like Obama and Clinton....

Dolph was misunderstood.

he tried to be a good conservative and he did a heckuva job

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1 minute ago, harryramar said:

Are Jews White folk??

i know the apartheid white gumamint of South Africa made the  Japanese honorary whites , but I’m not sure about the Jews.

you seem to know a lot about these matters so your guidance is appreciated.

judaism is a religion last time i checked.  

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I have to laugh when I hear Hitler was a right winger or even a left winger

 

nazism took elements of the left (collectivism), the Volkisch movement of early German period and elements of the right wing ( privatization and union busting) and created their own philosophy 

 

Its neither right or left wing 

 

 

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*white people get attacked*

"oh the poor white people" the leftist remarks sarcastically 

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10 hours ago, harryramar said:

Dolph was misunderstood.

he tried to be a good conservative and he did a heckuva job

I loved dolph in rocky 4...…………..fu cking loved that guy

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9 hours ago, chairmanOFTB said:

I have to laugh when I hear Hitler was a right winger or even a left winger

 

nazism took elements of the left (collectivism), the Volkisch movement of early German period and elements of the right wing ( privatization and union busting) and created their own philosophy 

 

Its neither right or left wing 

 

 

in comparison to right and left wing in American politics.....hitler CURRENTLY fits more nicely in the left wing of our political system.....making him a democrat socialist...and I think Nancy pelosis REAL dad.....the similarities are striking

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10 hours ago, Chiseler said:

judaism is a religion last time i checked.  

do you consider them to be white folk, or at least equal to you?

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20 minutes ago, harryramar said:

do you consider them to be white folk, or at least equal to you?

of course they are white....joos are the original redheads.....king david was a red head....adam means to flush in the face.....blacks and Asians cant flush in the face....so yeah.....honkeys are the Israelites....

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4 minutes ago, bigsky said:

of course they are white....joos are the original redheads.....king david was a red head....adam means to flush in the face.....blacks and Asians cant flush in the face....so yeah.....honkeys are the Israelites....

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are you saying adam was a jew???

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48 minutes ago, harryramar said:

are you saying adam was a jew???

not all Israelites are joos...but all joos are Israelites....

but yes, the bible is a story of a family upon the earth....the Israelites, and it starts with adam.

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2 hours ago, bigsky said:

not all Israelites are joos...but all joos are Israelites....

but yes, the bible is a story of a family upon the earth....the Israelites, and it starts with adam.

wasn't the garden of eden in Mesopotamia which is modern day iraq??

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15 hours ago, chairmanOFTB said:

I have to laugh when I hear Hitler was a right winger or even a left winger

 

nazism took elements of the left (collectivism), the Volkisch movement of early German period and elements of the right wing ( privatization and union busting) and created their own philosophy 

 

Its neither right or left wing 

Nazi Germany and fascism are all about joining corporations and the government into a centralized power structure that owns and controls everything.  Whatever the rhetoric (they always tell the people about what great things they'll achieve together, don't they), the bottom line is that system served a group of insiders, monopolies that owned and ran everything with the strong arm of the state backing them up.  I think that's why people say the Nazis are right-wingers.

 

I'm of the opinion that whichever direction you go from a Liberal, hybrid system that delivers the greatest possible good, go left or right far enough and you move around a circle.  If the Liberal democratic regulated capitalism is at 12 o'clock, then right and left wingers appear to be exact opposites sitting at 3 and 9 o'clock.  But keep going either direction and you'll end up at 6 o'clock, with an authoritarian system in which a handful of players control everything, regardless of what the justification and rhetoric are along the way.  So Liberal rational compromise is at 12 o'clock, and extremism of any flavor is its opposite, at 6 o'clock.

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15 hours ago, chairmanOFTB said:

I have to laugh when I hear Hitler was a right winger or even a left winger

 

nazism took elements of the left (collectivism), the Volkisch movement of early German period and elements of the right wing ( privatization and union busting) and created their own philosophy 

 

Its neither right or left wing 

 

 

 

Your premise is flawed. The NAZIs didn't collectivize the economy. The economy and major industries remained in private hands.

 

Fascism and its NAZI variant are purely rightwing movements. The current attempt to re-write history is beyond contempt and intellectually bankrupt.

 

Bill

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6 hours ago, harryramar said:

do you consider them to be white folk, or at least equal to you?

What color are they if not white

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1 hour ago, splunch said:

Nazi Germany and fascism are all about joining corporations and the government into a centralized power structure that owns and controls everything.  Whatever the rhetoric (they always tell the people about what great things they'll achieve together, don't they), the bottom line is that system served a group of insiders, monopolies that owned and ran everything with the strong arm of the state backing them up.  I think that's why people say the Nazis are right-wingers.

 

 

good explanation and I  see your point

 

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Your premise is flawed. The NAZIs didn't collectivize the economy. The economy and major industries remained in private hands.

 

 

Private hands in bed with the ruling Nazi party and they had to prove they were full blooded aryan

 

please point out which  non member or supporter of the Nazi party owned businesses in Nazi Germany?

 

 

1 hour ago, SpyCar said:

Fascism and its NAZI variant are purely rightwing movements. The current attempt to re-write history is beyond contempt and intellectually bankrupt.

 

neo nazis and neo fascism are alt right ( a stupid saying I might add) movements.

 

The reality is, there isn’t a universally accepted definition of Fascism but we can agree on is Fascism is nationalistic, it’s very anti-western democracy, anti-Marxist, anti-liberty, anti-individualism and to a degree anti- capitalism, all opposite of right wing ideology.


 Fascism is a political ideology that advocates nationalism and authoritarianism and it’s also very complex, there are different forms of fascism as the world seen with Italy, Nazi Germany, Spain and Pre World War 2 Japan and other countries.


We can agree that Fascism advocates for a one party state with an authoritative ruler and speaking of Nazism

 

What is Nazism? It’s basically German Fascism mixed with German socialism mixed with the Volkisch movement of earlier German period, the Nazi’s did attempt to add a philosophical theme to their ideology particularly Nietzcheism , even though Nietzsche himself distance himself away from volkisch  movement .

 

Nazism is race based and  was anti-parliament, anti-immigration, anti-Semitic, they believed in racial superiority and they were anti capitalists, Hitler allowed privatization as he believed it was best to keep it in ayran  hands and he need their money for his war machine prior to expansion 

 

Look what happened to the businesses after WW2 started, especially after 1941 after the tide of war changed when We entered the war.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, splunch said:

Nazi Germany and fascism are all about joining corporations and the government into a centralized power structure that owns and controls everything.  Whatever the rhetoric (they always tell the people about what great things they'll achieve together, don't they), the bottom line is that system served a group of insiders, monopolies that owned and ran everything with the strong arm of the state backing them up.  I think that's why people say the Nazis are right-wingers.

 

I'm of the opinion that whichever direction you go from a Liberal, hybrid system that delivers the greatest possible good, go left or right far enough and you move around a circle.  If the Liberal democratic regulated capitalism is at 12 o'clock, then right and left wingers appear to be exact opposites sitting at 3 and 9 o'clock.  But keep going either direction and you'll end up at 6 o'clock, with an authoritarian system in which a handful of players control everything, regardless of what the justification and rhetoric are along the way.  So Liberal rational compromise is at 12 o'clock, and extremism of any flavor is its opposite, at 6 o'clock.

Not bad, splunch.

Not bad at all.

If that don't make a man think......over his morning coffee...…...I don't what will.      🙂

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On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 9:19 AM, XavierOnassis said:

I do not give a damn who the hero was who shoved Trump'sa gross bod helplessly flailing under the bus. I just know that he was doing the Lord's work.

 

It is amusing to watch. Here is a rerun for everyone's viewing pleasure:

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Be careful, now, X,

Your racial hate......is starting to seep......out of your pours...…….like sweat.....on a Arizona summer day.

If a man hates another man's tribe......doesn't that make him......a "RACIST". ??             😎 

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6 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

good explanation and I  see your point

 

 

Private hands in bed with the ruling Nazi party and they had to prove they were full blooded aryan

 

please point out which  non member or supporter of the Nazi party owned businesses in Nazi Germany?

 

 

 

neo nazis and neo fascism are alt right ( a stupid saying I might add) movements.

 

The reality is, there isn’t a universally accepted definition of Fascism but we can agree on is Fascism is nationalistic, it’s very anti-western democracy, anti-Marxist, anti-liberty, anti-individualism and to a degree anti- capitalism, all opposite of right wing ideology.


 Fascism is a political ideology that advocates nationalism and authoritarianism and it’s also very complex, there are different forms of fascism as the world seen with Italy, Nazi Germany, Spain and Pre World War 2 Japan and other countries.


We can agree that Fascism advocates for a one party state with an authoritative ruler and speaking of Nazism

 

What is Nazism? It’s basically German Fascism mixed with German socialism mixed with the Volkisch movement of earlier German period, the Nazi’s did attempt to add a philosophical theme to their ideology particularly Nietzcheism , even though Nietzsche himself distance himself away from volkisch  movement .

 

Nazism is race based and  was anti-parliament, anti-immigration, anti-Semitic, they believed in racial superiority and they were anti capitalists, Hitler allowed privatization as he believed it was best to keep it in ayran  hands and he need their money for his war machine prior to expansion 

 

Look what happened to the businesses after WW2 started, especially after 1941 after the tide of war changed when We entered the war.

 

 

 

 

Nazism wan't anti-capitalist. Industrialists were not stripped of their property for not being party members. Your premise is false.

 

The NAZIs were anti-socialist/anti-Marxist.

 

Nazism is a far-right ideology. Arguing otherwise is koo-koo-lulu.

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Chiseler said:

What color are they if not white

Aren’t there some Ethiopian Jews?

 

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

Nazism wan't anti-capitalist. Industrialists were not stripped of their property for not being party members. Your premise is false.

 

industrialists were stripped of their business and assets if they were Jewish , bolsheviks or marxist sympathizers 

 

2 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

The NAZIs were anti-socialist/anti-Marxist.

 

Anti marxist yes 100% , socialists not so much , they rejected Karl marx interpretation of socialism, 

 

4 minutes ago, SpyCar said:

Nazism is a far-right ideology. Arguing otherwise is koo-koo-lulu.

 

far right or right wing? what is the difference Bill

 

 

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2 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

industrialists were stripped of their business and assets if they were Jewish , bolsheviks or marxist sympathizers 

 

 

Anti marxist yes 100% , socialists not so much , they rejected Karl marx interpretation of socialism, 

 

 

far right or right wing? what is the difference Bill

 

 

 

Correct about the seizures based on race and ideology. But that is a fascist/Nazi far rightwing response, not a leftwing one.

 

Bill

 

 

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

Correct about the seizures based on race and ideology. But that is a fascist/Nazi far rightwing response, not a leftwing one.

 

Bill

 

 

 

Ive never said or posted Nazism is left wing, I said they took some left wing philosophy from Fascism and Mussolini and right wing philosophy and created their own

 

so I ask you again what is the difference between (according to you) far right and right wing? 

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4 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

Ive never said or posted Nazism is left wing, I said they took some left wing philosophy from Fascism and Mussolini and right wing philosophy and created their own

 

so I ask you again what is the difference between (according to you) far right and right wing? 

 

The far-right doesn't respect the rule of law or the shared values of morality of the Western tradition.

 

Bill

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