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Alabama abortion ban vote: Nation’s strictest abortion law passes, no exceptions for rape, incest

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2 minutes ago, kfools said:

Nobody jammed anything into thier body. Except the thing they wanted jammed into thier body.

Consenting to sex doesn't mean one consented to getting pregnant.     

 

2 minutes ago, kfools said:

You think women are to stupid to know that sex equals children?

People sometimes have sex because it feels good, not because they want to have children.

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1 minute ago, kfools said:

So would you support the bill if there was an exception for rape? 

 

I doubt it. So why use that as your argument?

Because forcing a rape victim to keep a pregnancy is just as bad as raping the woman.  

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2 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said:

The reality is that most of the time, sex does NOT equal children.

 

Yet most assuredly without sex there is no child.

 

You are splitting hairs.

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Just now, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

Because forcing a rape victim to keep a pregnancy is just as bad as raping the woman.  

So you would support the bill if there was a rape exception or not?

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1 minute ago, RollingRock said:

Consenting to sex doesn't mean one consented to getting pregnant. 

 

Pregnancy takes consent the exception being rape. That is not arguable.

1 minute ago, RollingRock said:

 

People sometimes have sex because it feels good, not because they want to have children.

Consequences exist for those with little impulse control.

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Alabama and its neighbor, Mississippi, are beloved by Nevadans. They keep our state from being the lowest ranked in most social and educational metrics. 

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Just now, impartialobserver said:

Alabama and its neighbor, Mississippi, are beloved by Nevadans. They keep our state from being the lowest ranked in most social and educational metrics. 

Blacks are the reason for those low numbers. That's a fact.

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1 minute ago, kfools said:

Blacks are the reason for those low numbers. That's a fact.

So what if they are? Maryland and Georgia have higher percentages of blacks than AL and yet fare better in virtually all metrics. 

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4 minutes ago, kfools said:

Yet most assuredly without sex there is no child.

There are those who send a necktie to a syringe in Montana every Father's Day. Sexual intercourse is by far the most common cause of pregnancy, but not the only cause.

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1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

So what if they are? Maryland and Georgia have higher percentages of blacks than AL and yet fare better in virtually all metrics. 

Do they? Post the numbers. 

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1 minute ago, XavierOnassis said:

There are those who send a necktie to a syringe in Montana every Father's Day. Sexual intercourse is by far the most common cause of pregnancy, but not the only cause.

Ok...so since it is the primary cause how bout we focus on that.

 

Seems to make sense yes?

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1 minute ago, kfools said:

Do they? Post the numbers. 

https://www.infoplease.com/business-finance/poverty-and-income/capita-personal-income-state

 

I do not care enough about you to post them all but here is one. Below is the states with highest percentage of blacks

 

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/us-states-with-the-largest-relative-african-american-populations.html

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3 minutes ago, kfools said:

Pregnancy takes consent the exception being rape. That is not arguable.

So should we deny treatment for someone who developed lung cancer as a result of smoking?  According to your line of 'reasoning,' they consented!

 

3 minutes ago, kfools said:

Consequences exist for those with little impulse control.

Again, with this misogynistic trend towards forced gestation, I openly advocate all sexually active women consider getting their tubes tied to protect their bodily autonomy.  

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1 minute ago, RollingRock said:

So should we deny treatment for someone who developed lung cancer as a result of smoking?  According to your line of 'reasoning,' they consented!

There is a good argument to be made for that. However, that choice is self destruction and the person always had a choice. 

 

Interesting you make an argument using smoking which is BANNED in many places.

1 minute ago, RollingRock said:

 

Again, with this misogynistic trend towards forced gestation, I openly advocate all sexually active women consider getting their tubes tied to protect their bodily autonomy.  

Your suggestion in pretending women are to stupid to know sex causes babies is by far the most  misogynistic thing I ever heard.

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5 minutes ago, kfools said:

Ok...so since it is the primary cause how bout we focus on that.

 

Seems to make sense yes?

Only a small number of incidences of sexual intercourse result in children.

Sex in the US is almost entirely recreational.

Women can, and do, prevent most unwanted pregnancies.

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1 minute ago, XavierOnassis said:

Only a small number of incidences of sexual intercourse result in children.

Sex in the US is almost entirely recreational.

Women can, and do, prevent most unwanted pregnancies.

Good. So we agree women know how to not get pregnant.

 

I guess we're all set then.

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17 hours ago, Redoctober said:

Aren't you the little girl that cries that people are trolling you, then you put them on ignore like a puss? LOL You spaz, go put on your safety helmet to protect you soft fleshy head. LOL This forum is for men. Little girls like you should be playing tea. 

 

Yes, that's leftdingaling. Then he will change your post to large red letters with something like SO AND SO SUCKS COCK. The guy acts like he's 12.

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3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

It is census numbers showing total population and then breaking it down by race. Works on my end. The one below is the step before the last one. 

 

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2017/demo/popest/state-detail.html#par_textimage_785300169

27 percent in one 30 percent in the other. 

 

The educational metric isn't very different between the two. 

 

You can usually account for the poverty and education standing of a state based on the black and minority population.

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Just now, kfools said:

Good. So we agree women know how to not get pregnant.

 

I guess we're all set then.

I am all set. I am not a woman, I cannot ever become pregnant.

Women of my age are also immune from pregnancy. so they are all set as well.

But again, I insist that we all own our own bodies and therefore the government should not be allowed to tell us what to do with our own bodies.

If men could get pregnant, abortion would have become a sacrament long ago.

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43 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

For the same reason we don't call it a teenager.  Because it's not.

 

 

You are actually saying people and especially expecting mothers don't call the thing growing in them a baby? Do you have proof of this, because I have never heard of a woman who is excited about having a child call it a fetus. That is another point, people say they are "having a child" when the baby is in the womb, because that is what they are having. 

 

You keep ignoring my question. Is the fetus in the womb a human at the start of its life cycle, just as you and I both agree an oak seed is a tree at the start of its life cycle. 

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2 minutes ago, kfools said:

27 percent in one 30 percent in the other. 

 

The educational metric isn't very different between the two. 

 

You can usually account for the poverty and education standing of a state based on the black and minority population.

So only variable is needed in this case,  Race with 1 = Black and 0 = White. No other variables affect educational outcomes. Understood. 

 

What is your source for these educational metrics?

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