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Meanwhile in Ohio, Beyond the Heartbeat Bill

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House Bill 182, introduced by my friend Representative John Becker, prohibits insurance from paying for abortions.

Media coverage from when the bill was introduced:

 

Ohio House bill would prohibit insurance coverage of most abortions

 

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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- An Ohio state representative is again trying to ban insurance companies in the state from offering coverage for abortions. And this time, he’s more optimistic about the proposal’s chances of passage.

House Bill 182, introduced Wednesday by Republican state Rep. John Becker of Clermont County, would prohibit health insurers and public employee benefit plans from covering abortions except to replant a fertilized ovum or to save a pregnant woman’s life.

It would not apply to private-sector self-insured companies, nor would it block any employer from directly paying for a worker’s abortion.

“This bill is primarily about saving lives while ensuring that Ohioans don’t need to choose between maintaining their insurance plan and violating their conscience,” Becker said in a statement. “It prevents ratepayers from subsidizing the killing of innocent human beings.”

Becker unsuccessfully introduced similar legislation in 2014. But he said in an interview Wednesday that he’s confident the bill will go farther this time, as it’s being co-sponsored by the chair of the House Insurance Committee, Republican state Rep. Tom Brinkman of Cincinnati. Eighteen other House Republicans have also signed on as co-sponsors.

However, Becker said he hasn’t spoken to House Speaker Larry Householder, a Perry County Republican, about the measure.

Most Americans with employer-based health insurance currently have coverage for abortion care, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. However, Ohioans who are federal employees, enrolled in Medicaid, or have coverage through a health-insurance market cannot receive such coverage, according to the ACLU.

 

 

And coverage from this past week, when the pro borts realized they are going to lose AGAIN and more lives are about to be saved:

 

GOP abortion bill would insure medical procedure that doctors say doesn't exist

 

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COLUMBUS - A Clermont County Republican wants to ban most insurance coverage of abortions in Ohio. His bill includes an exception for re-implanting an ectopic pregnancy into the uterus. 

The problem? Doctors say that procedure does not exist. 

Rep. John Becker, of Union Township, said House Bill 182 would permit health insurance to cover reinserting a fertilized egg that attaches outside the uterus – called an ectopic or tubal pregnancy – into the uterus. 

But "an ectopic pregnancy cannot move or be moved to the uterus, so it always requires treatment," according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. That treatment includes either surgery or medication.  

Doctors were quick to point this out on social media. 

 

Hi @BeckerGOP, I’m a practicing ob-gyn and researcher on abortion and contraception, and thought you might want some help understanding ectopic pregnancy since your bill (HB182) gets some things wrong. I’ll clear up a few things in this thread.

 
 
 
 
 

An ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency where an embryo implants outside its normal place in the uterus. If it causes severe bleeding, the woman needs emergency surgery to save her life. John Becker’s Ohio bill forcing women to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy is beyond crazy.

Becker told The Enquirer that the procedure is rare, but it does exist. Becker cited reports of the procedure from 1917 and 1980.

“I’m no expert on any of this," Becker said. “Maybe it’s experimental or extraordinary. It’s my understanding that there has been success with it.”

 

Democrat lawmakers and abortion access advocates expressed frustration with legislators such as Becker crafting legislation to restrict access to abortion without understanding basic concepts of pregnancies.

Becker's bill would ban most private insurance coverage of abortion procedures. The bill does not prevent a company from paying for an employee's abortion directly or covering abortions through a self-funded plan. And it includes an exception to save the woman's life.  

 

"Currently, Ohioans who participate in health plans have no assurance in Ohio law that their insurance premiums are financially separate from insurance coverage of abortion services," Becker told lawmakers during a committee hearing Tuesday. 

The bill also prohibits "drugs or devices used to prevent the implantation of a fertilized ovum." Opponents of the bill say that language is too broad and might prohibit coverage of many birth control methods. 

Becker says his bill would only prohibit coverage of birth control after a certain point. 

"If it kills the embryo, then that’s an abortion," he said.

Becker's bill comes after Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine signed one of the nation's most restrictive abortion bans, the so-called "heartbeat bill." That law would penalize any doctor who performs an abortion after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which can be as early as six weeks gestation. 

The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio has promised to sue before that ban takes effect this summer. 

Becker said the heartbeat bill's swift passage inspired him to reintroduce his proposal to ban insurance coverage of abortions. One-third of House Republicans have signed on to co-sponsor his bill this time.

Anti-abortion access advocates are pushing several bills in the Ohio Legislature. One would require fetal remains to be buried or cremated. Another would require women to be informed of ways to reverse abortions after taking the first of a two-drug combination – something opponents call "medical quackery." 

 

A couple links for reference:

 

http://americanrtl.org/files/docs/Journal-Surg-Gyn-Obst-1917p578-579ectopic-transplant.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0oLlQ4bKNqHeAg78TurbS8OXmMCrsNwZX6Wo4p0QrAsRUa_6jl8odDI3g

 

https://www.ajog.org/article/0002-9378(90)90794-8/pdf?fbclid=IwAR3qmpxJq4tCt2j0Y1LSF8sVMNQS9Z2J_lP9Dfy6yTW4WpFyMJSQNT0QyHA

 

It appears the only thing impossible about preventing abortion is getting the pro abortion leftists to tell the truth.

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I would like to take this opportunity to wish a Happy Mothers Day to all my baby killing friends.
Happy Mothers Day bitches!

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Grim topic,  but does Ohio currently, let the citizens use insurance to pay for abortions?

 

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Yes, currently we do

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As this debate heats up, it will be important to realize the reporting standards the media has for the abortion topic.
Certain words that are NOT to be used, and certain terms that MUST be used in their stead.
Here is a memo from NPR to its reporters on that:

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2019/05/15/723678750/guidance-reminder-on-abortion-procedures-terminology-rights

 

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As we've covered the new abortion law in Georgia and legislation in Alabama, we've followed long-standing guidance very well. Thank you to all involved.

For those new to the subject, that guidance about abortion and related topics is collected in our Intranet "radio" style guide. We'll attach it below.

One thing to keep in mind about this law and others like it: Proponents refer to it as a "fetal heartbeat" law. That is their term. It needs to be attributed to them if used and put in quotation marks if printed. We should not simply say the laws are about when a "fetal heartbeat" is detected. As we've reported, heartbeat activity can be detected "about six weeks into a pregnancy." That's at least a few weeks before an embryo is a fetus.

Here is the long-standing guidance:

ABORTION PROCEDURES & TERMINOLOGY: Use the term intact dilation and extraction to describe the procedure, or a procedure known medically as intact dilation and extraction; opponents call it partial-birth abortion. On the latter, it is necessary to point out that the term partial-birth is used by those opposed to the procedure; simply using the phrase so-called partial birth abortion is not sufficient without explaining who's calling it that. Partial-birth is not a medical term and has no exact parallel in medical terminology; intact dilation and extraction is the closest description. Also, it is not correct to call these procedures RARE — it is not known how often they are performed. Nor is it accurate to use the phrase LATE TERM ABORTION. Though we initially believed this term carried less ideological baggage when compared with partial-birth, it still conveys the sense that the fetus is viable when the abortion is performed. It gives the impression that the abortion takes place in the 8th or 9th month. In fact, the procedure called intact dilation and extraction is performed most often in the 5th or 6th month — the second trimester — and the second trimester is not considered "late" pregnancy. Thus "late term" is not appropriate. As an alternative, call it a certain procedure performed after the first trimester of pregnancy and, subsequently, the procedure.... Also note:

NPR doesn't use the term "abortion clinics." We say instead, "medical or health clinics that perform abortions." The point is to not to use abortion before the word clinic. The clinics perform other procedures and not just abortions.

Do not refer to murdered Dr George Tiller as an "Abortion Doctor." Instead we should say Tiller operated a clinic where abortions are performed. We can also make reference to the fact that Tiller was a doctor who performed late abortions.

Here's some additional guidance from Joe Neel, regarding the Unborn Victims of Violence Act:

The term "unborn" implies that there is a baby inside a pregnant woman, not a fetus. Babies are not babies until they are born. They're fetuses. Incorrectly calling a fetus a "baby" or "the unborn" is part of the strategy used by antiabortion groups to shift language/legality/public opinion. Use "unborn" only when referring to the title of the bill (and after President Bush signs it, the Unborn Victims of Violence Law). Or qualify the use of "unborn" by saying "what anti-abortion groups call the 'unborn' victims of violence." The most neutral language to refer to the death of a fetus during a crime is "fetal homicide."

ABORTION RIGHTS:

On the air, we should use "abortion rights supporter(s)/advocate(s)" and "abortion rights opponent(s)" or derivations thereof (for example: "advocates of abortion rights"). It is acceptable to use the phrase "anti-abortion rights," but do not use the term "pro-abortion rights". Digital News will continue to use the AP style book for online content, which mirrors the revised NPR policy. Do not use "pro-life" and "pro-choice" in copy except when used in the name of a group. Of course, when the terms are used in an actuality they should remain.

 

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