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1 hour ago, Old Mack said:

 

Have the God hating, devil worshiping, baby killing ultraliberal...started partying yet ?

There are no incidents in which atheists have attacked churches.

Mostly, they tend to ignore them... or admire them architecturally.

There seem to be legions of fictional "ultraliberals" dwelling in the warped brain of Old Mack.

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1 hour ago, Imgreatagain said:

 

Why do you say that ? What is that statement based on? 

 

muslims destroy everything ,,   they are sand nlggers,   they eat pork ,   they fook little boys in the butt like obama

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17 minutes ago, drvoke said:

 

If a Muslim is responsible, this might spark a Crusade.

america needs to have a holy jihad against the sand nigga man

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Just now, impartialobserver said:

In short, JTZilla has no evidence that Muslims were behind it. From what I have read, the most likely cause is a welding touch or construction implement or tool. 

im sure a filthy cock sucking  muslim did it !!!

 

in other news

 

Trump is still your President !!

 

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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2 minutes ago, JTZilla said:

im sure a filthy cock sucking  muslim did it !!!

 

in other news

 

Trump is still your President !!

 

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Your opinion is not a fact and guess what.. neither is mine. Trump was not the topic so not sure why you need to bring it up.

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1 hour ago, guilluamezenz said:

no one knows who or what did it, it is literally a crime to post blame when you dont have any proof

 

Agreed.  

 

Now that said ...

 

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/03/20/twelve-french-churches-attacked-vandalized-in-one-week/

 

Quote

 

Twelve French Churches Attacked, Vandalized in One Week


THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D.20 Mar 2019


A dozen Catholic churches have been desecrated across France over the period of one week in an egregious case of anti-Christian vandalism.

 

The recent spate of church profanations has puzzled both police and ecclesiastical leaders, who have mostly remained silent as the violations have spread up and down France.


Last Sunday, marauders set fire to the church of Saint-Sulpice — one of Paris’ largest and most important churches — shortly after the twelve-o’clock Mass.

 


Hmmmmmm ….


 

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its the french      they are pussies  and deserve to lose buildings

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Just now, BeAChooser said:

first of all britbart 

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10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Your opinion is not a fact and guess what.. neither is mine. Trump was not the topic so not sure why you need to bring it up.

i wonder if it hurts him to be that stupid?

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Here Are The Hoaxes And Misinformation About The Notre Dame Fire

Online conspiracists are baselessly trying to blame the fire on their political opponents.

Last updated on April 15, 2019, at 6:41 p.m. ET

Posted on April 15, 2019, at 5:07 p.m. ET

 
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Francois Guillot / AFP / Getty Images
 
 

The Notre Dame Cathedral, an iconic Parisian landmark, suffered extensive damage Monday after a fire engulfed the historic structure, causing its spire to collapse and destroying much of its roof. You can read more about it here. As the cathedral burned, hoaxes, conspiracy theories, and coordinated disinformation campaigns began to spread across social media.

 
 

The Notre Dame is on fire. I'm watching the fakes/hoaxes etc. that are coming up as we wait for more information.

If you see anything, DM or email me: jane.lytvynenko@buzzfeed.com

For updates -> @BuzzFeedNews

 
 
 
 
 
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1. This story from InfoWars relied on a since-deleted tweet to spread a baseless claim the fire was set deliberately.

InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.
InfoWars
 

InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.

 

2. There's zero evidence Muslims were responding to the fire with "smiley faces."

 
Twitter / PrisonPlanet
 

InfoWars contributor Paul Joseph Watson (who wrote the above story) tweeted a link to a video that claimed to show Muslim people celebrating the fire. Watson was amplifying content from the far-right personality, Damien Rieu.

Critically, the video in question does not show what people on Facebook were reacting to. It's also impossible to know the religious views of each person reacting to a video en mass. So we really have no idea what was going on here, and there is no proof to back up this claim.

 

3. A fake Twitter account impersonating CNN spread a hoax about the fire.

 
Twitter / CNNpolitics2020
 

The account was created this month and has only seven followers, but the false tweet quickly gained traction Monday. The account was finally removed by Twitter — more than two hours after it began tweeting disinformation.

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4. There is a coordinated campaign to spread an article from 2016 that's unrelated to today's events.

 
Twitter
 

Dozens of accounts are tweeting a link to a 2016 article in order to create the impression that it's more recent. The story in question was about a car found near Notre Dame with gas tanks and "Arabic documents" inside. This appears to be an attempt to suggest this incident is connected to the fire. But, again, it happened roughly three years ago and is unrelated.

 

5. A misleading post from Jihad Watch, a website that frequently posts anti-Islam disinformation, spread across social media.

 
Facebook / Jihad Watch
 

Following the fire, Jihad Watch posted an article with a headline that made it appear like the content was directly connected to the fire. It's not. An update on the post says, "This is not a post about the fire at Notre Dame," but readers can see that only when they click on the story. The incident in question is the same one from 2016 that accounts on Twitter attempted to spread. Robert Spencer, the director of Jihad Watch, later tweeted that the post was scheduled before the fire.

ADVERTISEMENT
 
 

6. A fake Fox News account is spreading disinformation about the fire.

 
Twitter / USFoxNews
 

The account, which claims to be a parody in its bio, spread falsehoods about the Notre Dame fire, including a fake reaction from Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar. The account has since been removed.

 

7. People are posting old pictures of the wrong cathedral.

Left, Reims Cathedral in WWI. Right, Notre-Dame Cathedral in Saint-Lo (not Paris) shortly after the Normandy Invasion. https://t.co/f2dwh1k7k8

08:54 PM - 15 Apr 2019
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8. A video that includes audio of a person shouting "allahu akbar" as the Notre Dame is seen in flames is fake.

 
Twitter / @nife_0f_fire
 

Multiple versions of this hoax video spread across social media after the fire. However, a Google search for "allahu akbar shouting" returns an old video which includes the same audio used in Monday's Notre Dame footage.

TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
  1. Fake News
 
 
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Here Are The Hoaxes And Misinformation About The Notre Dame Fire

Online conspiracists are baselessly trying to blame the fire on their political opponents.

Last updated on April 15, 2019, at 6:41 p.m. ET

Posted on April 15, 2019, at 5:07 p.m. ET

 
sub-buzz-6644-1555360740-3.jpg?downsize=
Francois Guillot / AFP / Getty Images
 
 

The Notre Dame Cathedral, an iconic Parisian landmark, suffered extensive damage Monday after a fire engulfed the historic structure, causing its spire to collapse and destroying much of its roof. You can read more about it here. As the cathedral burned, hoaxes, conspiracy theories, and coordinated disinformation campaigns began to spread across social media.

 
 

The Notre Dame is on fire. I'm watching the fakes/hoaxes etc. that are coming up as we wait for more information.

If you see anything, DM or email me: jane.lytvynenko@buzzfeed.com

For updates -> @BuzzFeedNews

 
 
 
 
 
ADVERTISEMENT
 
 

1. This story from InfoWars relied on a since-deleted tweet to spread a baseless claim the fire was set deliberately.

InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.
InfoWars
 

InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.

 

2. There's zero evidence Muslims were responding to the fire with "smiley faces."

 
Twitter / PrisonPlanet
 

InfoWars contributor Paul Joseph Watson (who wrote the above story) tweeted a link to a video that claimed to show Muslim people celebrating the fire. Watson was amplifying content from the far-right personality, Damien Rieu.

Critically, the video in question does not show what people on Facebook were reacting to. It's also impossible to know the religious views of each person reacting to a video en mass. So we really have no idea what was going on here, and there is no proof to back up this claim.

 

3. A fake Twitter account impersonating CNN spread a hoax about the fire.

 
Twitter / CNNpolitics2020
 

The account was created this month and has only seven followers, but the false tweet quickly gained traction Monday. The account was finally removed by Twitter — more than two hours after it began tweeting disinformation.

ADVERTISEMENT
 
 

4. There is a coordinated campaign to spread an article from 2016 that's unrelated to today's events.

 
Twitter
 

Dozens of accounts are tweeting a link to a 2016 article in order to create the impression that it's more recent. The story in question was about a car found near Notre Dame with gas tanks and "Arabic documents" inside. This appears to be an attempt to suggest this incident is connected to the fire. But, again, it happened roughly three years ago and is unrelated.

 

5. A misleading post from Jihad Watch, a website that frequently posts anti-Islam disinformation, spread across social media.

 
Facebook / Jihad Watch
 

Following the fire, Jihad Watch posted an article with a headline that made it appear like the content was directly connected to the fire. It's not. An update on the post says, "This is not a post about the fire at Notre Dame," but readers can see that only when they click on the story. The incident in question is the same one from 2016 that accounts on Twitter attempted to spread. Robert Spencer, the director of Jihad Watch, later tweeted that the post was scheduled before the fire.

ADVERTISEMENT
 
 

6. A fake Fox News account is spreading disinformation about the fire.

 
Twitter / USFoxNews
 

The account, which claims to be a parody in its bio, spread falsehoods about the Notre Dame fire, including a fake reaction from Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar. The account has since been removed.

 

7. People are posting old pictures of the wrong cathedral.

Left, Reims Cathedral in WWI. Right, Notre-Dame Cathedral in Saint-Lo (not Paris) shortly after the Normandy Invasion. https://t.co/f2dwh1k7k8

08:54 PM - 15 Apr 2019
ADVERTISEMENT
 
 

8. A video that includes audio of a person shouting "allahu akbar" as the Notre Dame is seen in flames is fake.

 
Twitter / @nife_0f_fire
 

Multiple versions of this hoax video spread across social media after the fire. However, a Google search for "allahu akbar shouting" returns an old video which includes the same audio used in Monday's Notre Dame footage.

TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
  1. Fake News

    Here Are The Hoaxes And Misinformation About The Notre Dame Fire

    Online conspiracists are baselessly trying to blame the fire on their political opponents.

    Last updated on April 15, 2019, at 6:41 p.m. ET

    Posted on April 15, 2019, at 5:07 p.m. ET

     
    sub-buzz-6644-1555360740-3.jpg?downsize=
    Francois Guillot / AFP / Getty Images
     
     

    The Notre Dame Cathedral, an iconic Parisian landmark, suffered extensive damage Monday after a fire engulfed the historic structure, causing its spire to collapse and destroying much of its roof. You can read more about it here. As the cathedral burned, hoaxes, conspiracy theories, and coordinated disinformation campaigns began to spread across social media.

     
     

    The Notre Dame is on fire. I'm watching the fakes/hoaxes etc. that are coming up as we wait for more information.

    If you see anything, DM or email me: jane.lytvynenko@buzzfeed.com

    For updates -> @BuzzFeedNews

     
     
     
     
     
    ADVERTISEMENT
     
     

    1. This story from InfoWars relied on a since-deleted tweet to spread a baseless claim the fire was set deliberately.

    InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.
    InfoWars
     

    InfoWars, the website infamous for spreading conspiracy theories, was among the first to baselessly claim the fire was set deliberately. The cause of the fire is currently unknown, though the cathedral was recently undergoing extensive renovations. InfoWars provided no evidence for its story, except for a since-deleted tweet from someone claiming they knew a Notre Dame employee.

     

    2. There's zero evidence Muslims were responding to the fire with "smiley faces."

     
    Twitter / PrisonPlanet
     

    InfoWars contributor Paul Joseph Watson (who wrote the above story) tweeted a link to a video that claimed to show Muslim people celebrating the fire. Watson was amplifying content from the far-right personality, Damien Rieu.

    Critically, the video in question does not show what people on Facebook were reacting to. It's also impossible to know the religious views of each person reacting to a video en mass. So we really have no idea what was going on here, and there is no proof to back up this claim.

     

    3. A fake Twitter account impersonating CNN spread a hoax about the fire.

     
    Twitter / CNNpolitics2020
     

    The account was created this month and has only seven followers, but the false tweet quickly gained traction Monday. The account was finally removed by Twitter — more than two hours after it began tweeting disinformation.

    ADVERTISEMENT
     
     

    4. There is a coordinated campaign to spread an article from 2016 that's unrelated to today's events.

     
    Twitter
     

    Dozens of accounts are tweeting a link to a 2016 article in order to create the impression that it's more recent. The story in question was about a car found near Notre Dame with gas tanks and "Arabic documents" inside. This appears to be an attempt to suggest this incident is connected to the fire. But, again, it happened roughly three years ago and is unrelated.

     

    5. A misleading post from Jihad Watch, a website that frequently posts anti-Islam disinformation, spread across social media.

     
    Facebook / Jihad Watch
     

    Following the fire, Jihad Watch posted an article with a headline that made it appear like the content was directly connected to the fire. It's not. An update on the post says, "This is not a post about the fire at Notre Dame," but readers can see that only when they click on the story. The incident in question is the same one from 2016 that accounts on Twitter attempted to spread. Robert Spencer, the director of Jihad Watch, later tweeted that the post was scheduled before the fire.

    ADVERTISEMENT
     
     

    6. A fake Fox News account is spreading disinformation about the fire.

     
    Twitter / USFoxNews
     

    The account, which claims to be a parody in its bio, spread falsehoods about the Notre Dame fire, including a fake reaction from Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar. The account has since been removed.

     

    7. People are posting old pictures of the wrong cathedral.

    Left, Reims Cathedral in WWI. Right, Notre-Dame Cathedral in Saint-Lo (not Paris) shortly after the Normandy Invasion. https://t.co/f2dwh1k7k8

    08:54 PM - 15 Apr 2019
    ADVERTISEMENT
     
     

    8. A video that includes audio of a person shouting "allahu akbar" as the Notre Dame is seen in flames is fake.

     
    Twitter / @nife_0f_fire
     

    Multiple versions of this hoax video spread across social media after the fire. However, a Google search for "allahu akbar shouting" returns an old video which includes the same audio used in Monday's Notre Dame footage.

    TOPICS IN THIS ARTICLE
    1. Fake News
     
     
    ADVERTISEMENT
     
 
 
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they should round up muslims and queers and execute them just for the fire

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1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

In short, JTZilla has no evidence that Muslims were behind it. From what I have read, the most likely cause is a welding touch or construction implement or tool. 

Finally ! Someone who waits for the facts before jumping accusing random people 

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2 hours ago, guilluamezenz said:

first of all britbart 

 

First, that's Breitbart.

 

And second, there’s nothing wrong with Breitbart’s reporting.


Lot’s of sources confirm there was a fire at the Saint Sulpice church.

 

 

 

 

 

Here, even reuters reported the fire and showed that picture …


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-church/paris-historic-saint-sulpice-church-briefly-catches-fire-nobody-hurt-idUSKCN1QY0P1

 

Quote

PARIS (Reuters) - Paris’s historic Saint-Sulpice church, which was used in the filming of U.S. author Dan Brown’s ‘Da Vinci Code’ bestseller, briefly caught fire on Sunday but firefighters were able to bring the blaze under control and nobody was hurt.


Now, of course, reuters being reuters doesn’t delve into the cause.   The church just “caught fire”.  

 

Remember, this is the *news* outlet that reported that the 5 year old boy “fell” off the balcony the other day rather than being pushed or thrown by a Muslim.   


And here’s a source that confirms the church is the second largest in Paris …


https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/paris-firefighters-respond-to-blaze-at-citys-second-largest-church/video/ad5e9519ae38b161af92a5ea39e9ba56


Many MSM sources reported what Breitbart did, snowflake.  

 

Here …


https://www.newsweek.com/spate-attacks-catholic-churches-france-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800


Even the Washington Post did.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../satanic-symbols-shattered-statues-several-catholic-ch...


 

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1 hour ago, BeAChooser said:

 

First, that's Breitbart.

 

And second, there’s nothing wrong with Breitbart’s reporting.


Lot’s of sources confirm there was a fire at the Saint Sulpice church.

 

 

 

 

 

Here, even reuters reported the fire and showed that picture …


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-church/paris-historic-saint-sulpice-church-briefly-catches-fire-nobody-hurt-idUSKCN1QY0P1

 


Now, of course, reuters being reuters doesn’t delve into the cause.   The church just “caught fire”.  

 

Remember, this is the *news* outlet that reported that the 5 year old boy “fell” off the balcony the other day rather than being pushed or thrown by a Muslim.   


And here’s a source that confirms the church is the second largest in Paris …


https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/national/paris-firefighters-respond-to-blaze-at-citys-second-largest-church/video/ad5e9519ae38b161af92a5ea39e9ba56


Many MSM sources reported what Breitbart did, snowflake.  

 

Here …


https://www.newsweek.com/spate-attacks-catholic-churches-france-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800


Even the Washington Post did.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../satanic-symbols-shattered-statues-several-catholic-ch...


 

yes there is they out and out lie on purpose 

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30 minutes ago, guilluamezenz said:

yes there is they out and out lie on purpose 

 

Non-responsive.  Show where they lied in this case, guilluamezenz?

 

And there may have been no construction workers in the church at the time of the fire.   At least that's according to French-Greek journalist Sotiri Dimpinoudis.   That would make it hard for this to be a construction accident (a fire started by welding or cutting)  as originally theorized.

 

Plus, apparently the fires was apparently first observed a few minutes after the cathedral was closed for tourists.  Coincidence?    Or perhaps a tourist left something?  Hmmmm?

 

And there is at least one report that there were two fires.   In fact, NBC News reported this (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/notre-dame-cathedral-was-vulnerable-fire-expert-says-n994791 )  saying: “Michel Picaud, from the Friends of Notre Dame organization responsible for the renovation efforts at the cathedral, told NBC News that … snip … ‘The fire started up near the roof top while another fire started in the north bell tower.’”  Two fires would almost certainly spell arson.  Wouldn't you agree?  And you believe NBC News, don't you?

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Here’s a few more *coincidences* for you to dismiss out of hand, guilluamezenz.


This happens during Holy Week.


This happens after a Jihadist woman who plotted to bomb Notre-Dame is sentenced to prison.

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Redoctober said:

Are sure you want to pass judgement on trump, after this post?

You've heard of somebody shooting themselves in the foot, right?

 

Yes, I'm okay judging Trump as a really bad human being.  Without any hesitation.

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18 hours ago, Old Mack said:

 

Have the God hating, devil worshiping, baby killing ultraliberal...started partying yet ?

Oh I'm sure their already puking from having overdone it.

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17 hours ago, guilluamezenz said:

no one knows who or what did it, it is literally a crime to post blame when you dont have any proof.. do you have any prof of who did this, because i want whoever did this to pay, but i dont want violence aimed at the blameless

No I was just mocking the left, they always seem to know that anything that happens is always the fault of the right. Have you ever noticed that?

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