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Red States Win The Title of Most Sexually Diseased

 

Once again, by every measure, the residents of the Red States prove to be the most morally depraved Americans. The watch the most porn, commit the most murders, have them most divorces, have the most gluttony, have the most sloth, have the most hate groups, have the most gun deaths, have the most teen pregnancies, have the most poverty, have the most smoking and now we see that they are the most sexually diseased. Are any of you surprised? 

 

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A large percentage of the population of red states are BAD people. There really is no other way to say it. They have no excuse and while it may be a tough pill for us to swallow we can no longer ignore this reality. There is no good reason to hide this dirty little secret. If the truth hurts their feelings, tough shit!

 

Truth before harmony!

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My wife and I are in a red state, Florida.

 

Half the people in red states are either Black, or Democrat voters, or just conservatives who didn't and don't support Trump or his policies.

 

Neither my wife not I are immoral. You, suggesting that people in red States should be killed, you are immoral.

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when stuff gets to perfectly worded

 

 if you play the game wrong the creator gets more upset then the players

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10 hours ago, laripu said:

My wife and I are in a red state, Florida.

I feel sorry for you. Florida sucks. It's dangerous and dirty. The only cure for Florida is ocean level rise. Florida elected criminal corporate gangster Rick Scott twice for governor and no he's your US Senator. 

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

Half the people in red states are either Black, or Democrat voters, or just conservatives who didn't and don't support Trump or his policies.

Then explain who voted for Trump. Alaska has the most VD and there are hardly any Blacks there. If what you say is true, the only logical explanation for why Trump won the red states is massive election fraud.   

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

Neither my wife not I are immoral. You, suggesting that people in red States should be killed, you are immoral.

Then you are OK with slavery. Got it!  And you are OK with treason. Got it! You are ok with lynching. Got it. You are OK with the KKK. Got it! But you are not immoral? LOL!

 

I think Lincoln screwed up by not executing slave owners and other traitors. I think it was immoral to allow slave owner and traitors to live. 

 

When someone wears a KKK robe, displays a swastika, gives the Hitler salute or flies the confederate flag, they are announcing there intent to exterminate all non Whites.  At that point they become fair game. 

 

I think you need some education. We will start with these quotes:

 

The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. Since you live in a red state you are immersed in ignorance.

 

You have probably never been oppressed so you don't have a clue. You probably never knew any holocaust survivors. You probably don't know any victims of "walking while Black".  You need to know this. To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is cruelty. Do you understand what this means? 

 

Do you understand why so many Nazis were executed?

 

Do you understand why the Italians hung Mussolini by his feet?

 

Watch these videos about walking while Black and maybe then you will see why Lincoln should have executed a large percentage of White Southerners. If these videos don't make your blood boil then you are a Trump supporter.

 

3 pigs for one Black man walking.

 

Tyrants harassing Blacks.

Swimming while Black.

 

 

Washing a car while Black.

 

 

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20 hours ago, laripu said:

My wife and I are in a red state, Florida.

 

Half the people in red states are either Black, or Democrat voters, or just conservatives who didn't and don't support Trump or his policies.

 

Neither my wife not I are immoral. You, suggesting that people in red States should be killed, you are immoral.

 

+1.  Me and all my family also live in 'red' states. 

 

I've been torn about how I want to react to this person.  Normally, I believe in engagement and mutual respect.  But, in this case, logic, facts and compassion just inspire more disgusting behavior.   He feeds on anger and outrage.  It's what he comes here for.

 

Part of me says "evil must be opposed".  But, after some contemplation, I think the best approach is...

 

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35 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

There are immoral people in every state.  It's not just red states.

The OP clearly represents a variation of extremism, which is the opposite of Liberalism.

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7 minutes ago, splunch said:

The OP clearly represents a variation of extremism, which is the opposite of Liberalism.

I definitely agree.  I can't bring myself to generalize about an entire party or political affiliation.  I disagree with the right, but I don't see each and every one of them as "immoral" or someone we should hate.  I see the belief system as something we need to fight to change......through democratic means.

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2 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

+1.  Me and all my family also live in 'red' states. 

 

I've been torn about how I want to react to this person.  Normally, I believe in engagement and mutual respect.  But, in this case, logic, facts and compassion just inspire more disgusting behavior.   He feeds on anger and outrage.  It's what he comes here for.

 

Part of me says "evil must be opposed".  But, after some contemplation, I think the best approach is...

 

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This is the answer.  If you object to to the advocacy of hate and violence by BluedoggL, simply don't post in his threads or react to his posts in the threads of others.

 

Conservatives are not allowed in LO but BluedoggL, despite his advancement of violence, consistently espouses and otherwise liberal point of view.  And so far, he has not violated rule #2 by verbally attacking other members in this sub-forum.  

 

Rule #1  "No Conservatives Allowed", cannot be used to to ban a member from LO who is mostly liberal but objectionable to most liberals, in other ways..

 

1 hour ago, splunch said:

The OP clearly represents a variation of extremism, which is the opposite of Liberalism.

 

This is true.  However, he takes a liberal line in nearly all other ways.  A liberal cannot be banned from LO simply because he/she exhibits an isolated, conservative trait.  So far, BluedoggL is the only one of his kind.  However, if other conservative members adopt his tactic, in order to infiltrate LO, it will be dealt with then.

 

So to repeat:---  If you object to BluedoggL posting in the Liberals's Only Room, simply do not answer his posts. 

 

 

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Just now, bludog said:

This is true.  However, he takes a liberal line in nearly all other ways.  A liberal cannot be banned from LO simply because he/she exhibits an isolated, conservative trait.  So far, bluedoggL is the only one of his kind.  However, if other conservative members adopt his tactic, in order to infiltrate LO, it will be dealt with then.

I have an ignore button.  It's not a problem.  

 

"Liberal" isn't a set of policies or ideas.  It's an approach to solving problems and getting along together.  Pointing fingers and branding a group of people as The Outsiders and demonizing them is the standard approach to lead people to discriminate, then persecute, and ultimately exterminate the undesirables.  It's not only not Liberal, it's anti-Liberal.

 

I am not here to lobby for excluding anybody.  I'm pointing out hopefully for BluedoggL as much as anyone, that this approach is not going to work, it ignores lots of important historical lessons, and represents a breakdown in Liberal thinking and an expression of frustration and fear and anger, not a real approach to solving anything.

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24 minutes ago, bludog said:

If you object to to the advocacy of hate and violence by BluedoggL, simply don't post in his threads or react to his posts in the threads of others.

 

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

 

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

 

Bye.

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20 minutes ago, splunch said:

I have an ignore button.  It's not a problem.  

 

"Liberal" isn't a set of policies or ideas.  It's an approach to solving problems and getting along together.  Pointing fingers and branding a group of people as The Outsiders and demonizing them is the standard approach to lead people to discriminate, then persecute, and ultimately exterminate the undesirables.  It's not only not Liberal, it's anti-Liberal.

 

I am not here to lobby for excluding anybody.  I'm pointing out hopefully for BluedoggL as much as anyone, that this approach is not going to work, it ignores lots of important historical lessons, and represents a breakdown in Liberal thinking and an expression of frustration and fear and anger, not a real approach to solving anything.

 

I don't disagree with any of this.  However, as moderator, I'm often forced to differentiate between "liberal" and "non-liberal" as a criteria for who should be allowed to post in LO.  That poses a different set of problems.  It might be that a hateful, violent approach outweighs any other liberal ideas an individual might have, making him/her, somehow part of the conservative group(s) they oppose.  Are the ANTIFA a conservative group or a liberal one?

 

 

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14 minutes ago, laripu said:

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

 

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

 

Bye.

 

I'm sorry to read this.  :(  Take care, laripu.

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14 minutes ago, laripu said:

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

 

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

 

Bye.

 

Very sorry to see you go laripu.  Maybe you will see fit to reconsider, at some time in the future.

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8 hours ago, bludog said:

 

This is the answer.  If you object to to the advocacy of hate and violence by BluedoggL, simply don't post in his threads or react to his posts in the threads of others.

 

Conservatives are not allowed in LO but BluedoggL, despite his advancement of violence, consistently espouses and otherwise liberal point of view.  And so far, he has not violated rule #2 by verbally attacking other members in this sub-forum.  

 

Rule #1  "No Conservatives Allowed", cannot be used to to ban a member from LO who is mostly liberal but objectionable to most liberals, in other ways..

 

 

This is true.  However, he takes a liberal line in nearly all other ways.  A liberal cannot be banned from LO simply because he/she exhibits an isolated, conservative trait.  So far, BluedoggL is the only one of his kind.  However, if other conservative members adopt his tactic, in order to infiltrate LO, it will be dealt with then.

 

So to repeat:---  If you object to BluedoggL posting in the Liberals's Only Room, simply do not answer his posts. 

 

 

I think it is important to point out that some of America's greatest war heroes were liberal such as JFK, RFK, John Kerry and several Gulf war vets not to mention our founding fathers. There are several Iraq war vets who are Dem members of congress probably no Republicans. 

 

Convervatives tend to be war mongers and chicken hawks.  Freedom fighters are liberals. If you don't believe that check out this site.Who served in the military? - AWOLBush.com

 

I am a pragmatic liberal who places reality before theory. Even Jesus used violence when he cleared the temple and upon his return a lot of heads will rolls. He also told his people to buy a sword. Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

 

The brave Northerners who gave their lives and killed traitors to free the slaves were liberal minded people from the Northeast. The North lost more soldiers than the South. Defending freedom and human rights often involves killing tyrants.  Does anyone honestly think that people like Putin, Trump and Kim and their followers can or will listen to reason? 

 

Talk is cheap and America is hypocritical in its recent wars. If we want to do the world some good we can start in out own hemisphere and start killing drug lords. That would greatly improve the lives of the people of South America.

 

If we were honest who would apologize to Iran and pay them reparations for a lot of our misdeeds over the decades.

 

If were were as moral as we claim we would confiscate the obscene wealth of the 1% and the corporations and if they resisted they would at their own peril. 

 

I'm not an academic type, I'm smarter and more aware than they are. It is time to see the forest for the trees and wake up and see that sometimes complex problems have simple solutions. The hard truth is, a lot of people simply are what they are. Most of us on the center and left are open minded and tolerant while most people of the so called right are close minded. Closed minded and intolerant people by their nature and the wiring of their brains cannot be anything but closed minded and intolerant. An army of Dr Phils cannot reach them. We would be wise to stop excusing their behaviors and dishonesty because of their culture. They are what they are and their culture accurately reflects what they are. 

 

Muslims do bad things and believe awful things but unlike MAGAts Muslims are a product of a repressive culture. MAGAts have freedom of choice to reject their insane pretend beliefs and embrace the truth. You can bet that the Muslims here will be stellar citizens and desirable neighbors. MAGAts can be neither and not because of their beliefs but because of what they are.

 

Ideas don't deserve protection and if those ideas can't withstand criticism then they are bad ideas. Taking passive and pacifist approach to liars and tyrants is suicide. 

 

I'm older than a lot of you. Things were different when I grew up. One thing is we didn't need cops and metal detectors in our schools because when some punk like Trump got out of line, somebody punked them or beat them down MAGAts need to be stepped on for their own good.

 

I think you all know the futility of trying to reason with a lying MAGAt. We chalk their lying and racism up to brainwashing and stupidity but their lying and racism is motivated by what is in their core. Can some of them listen to reason? Probably but are their enough of them to justify the effort? I say no. 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, laripu said:

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

 

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

 

Bye.

 

Laripu, I'm very sorry to see you go.  I respect your decision, but I hope you'll reconsider.

 

I've been coming to this board for at least 12 years now, and have far more than the 425 posts credited to me.  I'm not going to throw in the towel just because someone is trolling.   So long as there are good people here to talk to (one less now), I'll keep coming back.  When it gets too hard to find a good discussion, I'll leave LO just like I left NHB.

 

9 hours ago, bludog said:

It might be that a hateful, violent approach outweighs any other liberal ideas an individual might have, making him/her, somehow part of the conservative group(s) they oppose.  Are the ANTIFA a conservative group or a liberal one?

 

That's an interesting question.  First, I'd say it's wrong to assign all of humanity to be either liberal or conservative.  A person can be 'not liberal' without being 'conservative'.   Both liberals and conservatives should be able to expel the most ridiculous misuses of their name.  Consider the racists who call themselves 'conservative'.  Should other conservatives not cast them out?   What does it say about them if they make no effort?   I think we need to ensure that our own fringe is trimmed.  We're known by the company we keep and the membership we allow.

 

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  Sometimes, they're just as bad in different ways.

 

8 hours ago, bludog said:

I don't disagree with any of this.  However, as moderator, I'm often forced to...

 

I get it.  It's not your site.   You don't make the rules.  It is interesting and illuminating to see how the site owner chooses to draw the rules...who is acceptable and who is not.  By those choices, the forum is made (or unmade), one member at a time.  The forum is not a better place today.  

 

If this forum has no rule against hate and violence, then perhaps we need a new rule?  Surely the forum's rules are no more difficult to change than the Constitution?  What do we need?  A petition?  A poll thread?

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4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

Laripu, I'm very sorry to see you go.  I respect your decision, but I hope you'll reconsider.

Laripu got a dose of logic and a bottle of red pills. Maybe some butt hurt cream is needed. 

4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

I've been coming to this board for at least 12 years now, and have far more than the 425 posts credited to me.  I'm not going to throw in the towel just because someone is trolling.   So long as there are good people here to talk to (one less now), I'll keep coming back.  When it gets too hard to find a good discussion, I'll leave LO just like I left NHB.

Calling not participating in the echo chamber trolling. That's really honest. CONs have a point sometimes and before CONS when all MAGAt I would consider what they had to say.

 

The MAGAts have taken over NHB and are using it as a platform for their lies and alternative facts. It is sad that you don't have the belly to go their and kick the shit out of them. Instead you prove them right when they call us snowflakes. If you read my posts on NHB I have turned the tables on them and many of them have melted into a puddle of orange goo.

 

It's a cowardly tactic to call someone a troll simply because you can't refute their point or disagree with them. Yep, its cowardly.

4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

That's an interesting question.  First, I'd say it's wrong to assign all of humanity to be either liberal or conservative.  A person can be 'not liberal' without being 'conservative'.   Both liberals and conservatives should be able to expel the most ridiculous misuses of their name.  Consider the racists who call themselves 'conservative'.  Should other conservatives not cast them out?   What does it say about them if they make no effort?   I think we need to ensure that our own fringe is trimmed.  We're known by the company we keep and the membership we allow.

Moral people regardless of their political stripe should condemn racism and other vile things. There was a time when many conservatives did. There was a time when more Blacks voted for Republican because Republicans were not as vile as they are now. MLK was a Republican and he had a lot of Republicans' sleazy behavior when it came to women. 

 

We are not as far to the left as we would like to believe. We say that Bill Clinton was liberal? WHY? Alan Greenspan called him the best Republican we ever had. Like MLK, Clinton was a pig when it came to women. 

4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.  Sometimes, they're just as bad in different ways.

Kinda like the US and Saudi Arabia. I'd be friends with Iran before them. Iranians are more honorable than Saudis. 

4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

 

I get it.  It's not your site.   You don't make the rules.  It is interesting and illuminating to see how the site owner chooses to draw the rules...who is acceptable and who is not.  By those choices, the forum is made (or unmade), one member at a time.  The forum is not a better place today.  

This site is owned by someone in Jerusalem. This is a propaganda site. Do you think the MAGAts are here by accident?

4 hours ago, Renegade said:

 

If this forum has no rule against hate and violence, then perhaps we need a new rule?  Surely the forum's rules are no more difficult to change than the Constitution?  What do we need?  A petition?  A poll thread?

You want free speech so long as you agree with it. There is a lot of stuff I hate and intellectual dishonesty is at the top of my list. I do advocate violence when I think violence is needed. Go to the Holocaust Museum and tell the Jew that is was a mistake to bomb the crap out of Nazi Germany and kill Germans. Tell them that we should have just let bygones be bygones and not had the Nuremberg trials. 

 

I would have advocated that Lincoln executed slave owners, confiscated their wealth, and executed every confederate politician and officer in the confederate army.

 

When I see a KKK robe, a Swastka or the Confederate flag I see intent. That intent is to kill all non Whites. When they are finished killing all non whites, they will kill the ones with dark hair and brown eyes.  That's the plan of the Nazis. Were you aware of that?

 

If the idea of ridding the world of people who want to rid the world of non White makes you queasy, you need to reexamine your morals. 

Try this on for size and allow it to sink in. To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is cruelty. Maximilien Robespierre

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16 hours ago, splunch said:

The OP clearly represents a variation of extremism, which is the opposite of Liberalism.

I get it. In your mind liberalism is ignoring uncomfortable truth that conflict with your world view kinda like Don Quixote. I don't think you can even define liberalism. If you think you can, have at it. 

 

Your statement makes you a denier. I get it. It sucks to know that there are a lot of bad people in the world and it sucks even more to know that a lot of them are in the US. And it sucks even more to know that Hillary was 100% right about them. 

 

I think it's time for you to put on your big boy pants and take some red pills.  MAGAts are NOT going to stop lying because they are not any more capable of telling the truth than Trump. If you don't believe that, go to the NHB forum and try to reason with one of those liars. 

 

If you are not willing to punch a Nazi or a White Supremacist you maybe ought to join them.  I see too many self-proclaimed liberals playing the victim and whining. The feminists are a prime example of that. The feminists today would make splendid Nazis and they are every bit as hypocritical as the MAGAts. Today's feminists are an embarrassment and the CON are having a field day with them. We need to cut them loose and direct them to the loony bin.

 

Keep bashing Trump and keep ignoring his depraved base. That's working great.

 

 

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15 hours ago, laripu said:

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

 

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

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Bye.

 

 

Grow up!  Yep, reality bites so take your ball and go home because somebody knocked off your rose colored glasses. It's a cold cruel world and it will continue that way when we place our sensibilities before truth. I hate to tell you but Donald Trump is a piece of shit and so are his supporters.

 

The sad thing is, if you had stuck around, I would have taught you how to destroy MAGAts instead of whining about them.

 

 

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1 hour ago, rrober49 said:

like trash talking to the carpet much ? 

Even the MAGAts have better insults than that? 

 

Why are you defending MAGAts?

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I will wait for you to go out and show us and you will not  so where does that leave us ?

 

 after that my plan is to vote trump out or wait 6 years and that's less time then i would get in jail if I listened to you

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