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Still Think People In The Red States Are Not Immoral?

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6 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

I get it. In your mind liberalism is ignoring uncomfortable truth that conflict with your world view kinda like Don Quixote. I don't think you can even define liberalism. If you think you can, have at it.   Your statement makes you a denier.

I did define Liberalism.  

 

I deny that everyone living in red states or even that everyone who voted for Trump is irredeemable human trash that has to be beaten down.  Your statements encouraging people to...what, exactly?  Find Trump voters and assault them?  Kill them?  What exactly do you think you're advocating?

 

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The hard truth is, a lot of people simply are what they are. Most of us on the center and left are open minded and tolerant while most people of the so called right are close minded. Closed minded and intolerant people by their nature and the wiring of their brains cannot be anything but closed minded and intolerant.

 

You are not open-minded or tolerant.  You are frustrated, afraid, and angry, and you blame other people who disagree with you for your problems.  There is nothing tolerant about advocating the extermination of people you disagree with based on your narrow-minded judgement that they are worthless.

 

Your idea of hammering at the wedges that exist in our society and pretending that is somehow going to resolve something is absurd.  Vilifying people who maybe have some wrong ideas, and maybe who are even as frustrated and hateful and close-minded as you are, is not useful to me.

 

Antifa is neither Liberal nor conservative.  They are radicals, theoretically of the radical left though it doesn't really matter much what rationale you use for demonizing and assaulting people you disagree with.  Taken at face value, looking at the behavior, there is little practical difference between antifa and the neo-nazis.  Their agenda is to be angry and fight.  They are equally foolish and pointless.

 

Complicated problems exist.  They need smart people to figure out how to solve them.  This one is advocating letting the dumbest and least imaginative among us "solve" our problems by killing anyone who sees the problems differently.  I have not read anything stupider on this site to date. 

 

You think you are hard, but you're just tired and beaten down.

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12 hours ago, Renegade said:

First, I'd say it's wrong to assign all of humanity to be either liberal or conservative. 

 

It's not only wrong;  It wouldn't even be accurate.  But a gatekeeper in a liberals only room is forced to do just that.

 

12 hours ago, Renegade said:

I get it.  It's not your site.   You don't make the rules.  It is interesting and illuminating to see how the site owner chooses to draw the rules...who is acceptable and who is not.  By those choices, the forum is made (or unmade), one member at a time.  The forum is not a better place today.  

 

If this forum has no rule against hate and violence, then perhaps we need a new rule?  Surely the forum's rules are no more difficult to change than the Constitution?  What do we need?  A petition?  A poll thread?

 

Before the present owner, a conservative, bought the site, it was owned by an enthusiastic liberal.  LIBERALFORUM started out with a mostly liberal membership.  As more conservatives and trolls joined, the original liberals complained and the Liberals Only Room was created.   This happened under the original, liberal owner.  The present owner takes the attitude that the forum should run itself.  He appears resistant to any changes.

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2 hours ago, splunch said:

I did define Liberalism.  

 

I deny that everyone living in red states or even that everyone who voted for Trump is irredeemable human trash that has to be beaten down.  Your statements encouraging people to...what, exactly?  Find Trump voters and assault them?  Kill them?  What exactly do you think you're advocating?

 

 

You are not open-minded or tolerant.  You are frustrated, afraid, and angry, and you blame other people who disagree with you for your problems.  There is nothing tolerant about advocating the extermination of people you disagree with based on your narrow-minded judgement that they are worthless.

 

Your idea of hammering at the wedges that exist in our society and pretending that is somehow going to resolve something is absurd.  Vilifying people who maybe have some wrong ideas, and maybe who are even as frustrated and hateful and close-minded as you are, is not useful to me.

 

Antifa is neither Liberal nor conservative.  They are radicals, theoretically of the radical left though it doesn't really matter much what rationale you use for demonizing and assaulting people you disagree with.  Taken at face value, looking at the behavior, there is little practical difference between antifa and the neo-nazis.  Their agenda is to be angry and fight.  They are equally foolish and pointless.

 

Complicated problems exist.  They need smart people to figure out how to solve them.  This one is advocating letting the dumbest and least imaginative among us "solve" our problems by killing anyone who sees the problems differently.  I have not read anything stupider on this site to date. 

 

You think you are hard, but you're just tired and beaten down.

+1000.

 

I will sincerely miss laripu.  I'm going to do my best to ignore this angry poster.  My goals (including my political goals) always include inclusion, kindness, and helping those who are unable to help themselves.  I judge people on an individual basis, not by any other standard.

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On 4/14/2019 at 10:35 PM, BlueDoggL said:

The only cure for Florida is ocean level rise.

 

On 4/14/2019 at 10:35 PM, BlueDoggL said:

I think Lincoln screwed up by not executing slave owners and other traitors. I think it was immoral to allow slave owner and traitors to live. 

 

10 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

 

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As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day! This is cause to celebrate! As our life expectancy is increasing, their's is decreasing!  

 

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That said, poor white trash breed like flies.  

 

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They are subhuman and they are beyond redemption.

 

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As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day!

 

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People in the Bible Belt are more dangerous than people in the northeast. Get rid of them and we will be as peaceful as the Asia and Scandinavia.

 

BlueDoggL:---  You are no longer allowed to post in the Liberals Only Room.  Further posts will result in a nice little vacation.  You are welcome to post in No Holds Barred, or any other part of the site except for LO.

 

Reading BlueDoggL's constant drumbeat of violence, executions and genocide it is clear that his stated liberal politics are in the service of promoting the worst excesses of human bloodshed and cruelty.  Not the other way around.  This member is using liberalism as an excuse to advertise bigotry, killing and genocide, as if they were a good thing.

 

This is not what the Liberal's Only Room was created for.

 

 

Also, he has launched personal attacks at liberals in this room in violation of rule #2 :---
 

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Save your blue pills for sining Kumbaya around a campfire. Next thing you will be saying, violence never solved anything. Unlike the I like dead traitors, dead racists and dead fascists. I think you need to see these quotes when it comes to dealing with oppressors Mary Poppins.

 

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I think you need some education. We will start with these quotes:

 

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Then you are OK with slavery. Got it!  And you are OK with treason. Got it! You are ok with lynching. Got it. You are OK with the KKK. Got it! But you are not immoral? LOL!

 

Of the liberals in this room who have commented on BlueDoggL's material, all have found it to be objectionable.  None have come to his defense.  One member has even withdrawn from the forum, because of BlueDoggL.

 

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On 4/15/2019 at 12:50 PM, laripu said:

 

For me, that's not entirely enough. The extent to which I don't want to be associated with hate and violence is such that I must distance myself even more than that. So I won't be reading or posting on liberalforum any more. I'm going to delete the shortcuts to it from my phone and various computers.

Mostly, it's been interesting, and sometimes educational. Mostly, you're good people. Thanks to all for letting me be a part of it.

Bye.

It is discouraging that a respectful, insightful, and highly intelligent LO member is lost because of someone who exhibits the opposite characteristics.

 

 

On 4/15/2019 at 9:58 AM, Renegade said:

I've been torn about how I want to react to this person.  Normally, I believe in engagement and mutual respect.  But, in this case, logic, facts and compassion just inspire more disgusting behavior.   He feeds on anger and outrage.  It's what he comes here for.

 

Part of me says "evil must be opposed".  But, after some contemplation, I think the best approach is... 

 

On 4/15/2019 at 12:21 PM, bludog said:

This is the answer.  If you object to to the advocacy of hate and violence by BluedoggL, simply don't post in his threads or react to his posts in the threads of others.

 

Conservatives are not allowed in LO but BluedoggL, despite his advancement of violence, consistently espouses and otherwise liberal point of view.  And so far, he has not violated rule #2 by verbally attacking other members in this sub-forum.  

 

Rule #1  "No Conservatives Allowed", cannot be used to to ban a member from LO who is mostly liberal but objectionable to most liberals, in other ways..

Perhaps there should be a rule about advocating violence. I would rather debate a intelligent conservative than a hateful, small minded 'liberal'.

 

I have been using the ignore approach, and haven't posted in his threads, or react to his posts in the threads of others.

I would rather trolls not be allowed to post in my threads, or in threads of others.  

 

Ignoring threats of violence is tantamount to silence.

Is silence really the right approach?....

 

"Silence encourages the tormenter, never the tormented" (Elie Wiesel)

"What you allow, you encourage" (Carrie Heinze-Musgrove)
"Your silence is consent" (Plato).

 

14 hours ago, Renegade said:

By those choices, the forum is made (or unmade), one member at a time.  The forum is not a better place today.  

  

If this forum has no rule against hate and violence, then perhaps we need a new rule?  Surely the forum's rules are no more difficult to change than the Constitution?  What do we need?  A petition?  A poll thread?

bludog has done an amazing job, under very difficult conditions. I'm sure he will do the right thing.

 

18 minutes ago, bludog said:

BlueDoggL:---  You are no longer allowed to post in the Liberals Only Room.  Further posts will result in a nice little vacation.  You are welcome to post in No Holds Barred, or any other part of the site except for LO.

Thank you bludog. I was in the process of posting when I read your decision.

I was just about to earn myself a nice little vacation.

 

 

 

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    To a point you are right but I think it has more to do with their ignorance in red states than anything else and it will get worse there because they are taking away money from education. To give to the wealthy,  Add in the fact that A stupid person is more likely to be a right winger. Along with what you said , the fact that the Democratic states are supporting the red states with government funding in all forms. Welfare, food programs and all other government subsidy's 

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On 4/16/2019 at 11:39 PM, jbander said:

    To a point you are right but I think it has more to do with their ignorance in red states than anything else and it will get worse there because they are taking away money from education. To give to the wealthy,  Add in the fact that A stupid person is more likely to be a right winger. Along with what you said , the fact that the Democratic states are supporting the red states with government funding in all forms. Welfare, food programs and all other government subsidy's 

Kansas was a petri dish for hardcore voodoo economics, and it appears to have melted down so spectacularly that they may actually elect a few Democrats going forward.  I don't expect that to reflect any sort of dramatic change in the way they view things, but it does suggest there are limits to how badly beaten down people can get before they prove they are not quite as impenetrably stupid as they are sometimes colored.

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