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You health starts with you. One of the biggest drivers of health care profits is obesity. The co-morbidities associated with obesity are many and the medical industry is exploiting them for all they are worth.  They have hiked the price on insulin which is unfair to the type one diabetics. The medical industry is making a fortune on C-PAP machines, statin drugs, knee and hip replacements, diabetic amputations, diabetic wound care, heart surgeries, weight loss surgeries etc...

 

Every cloud has a silver lining. We live longer than the MAGAts because we have more responsible lifestyles. We exercise and we have better diets and most of use are not smokers.  

 

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We should always be looking into life extension while the MAGAts waddle to their doctors for dangerous medications.

 

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As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day! This is cause to celebrate! As our life expectancy is increasing, their's is decreasing!  

 

Longevity age gap

 

 

 

Life Expectancy Can Vary By 20 Years Depending On Where You Live

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Good compilation of maps; All showing different aspects of the same phenomenon:  The deplorables, bigots and know-nothings are shortening their lives with irresponsible lifestyles and unhealthy behaviors.  The longevity gap is dramatic, being about 20 years, in some places, between those who neglect their health and tend to be cons, and those who take better care of themselves, and tend to be more liberal.

 

But it would appear that however abbreviated their lives, these deporables are passing their pathology on to the next generation.  There is a false perception, among many liberals, that all we have to do is wait until the old generation of right wing extremists die off, for the Nation to swing left again.  Unfortunately, that's not happening.

 

https://www.vox.com/2015/6/22/8810539/racism-generational-american-views

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 Stop waiting for racism to die out with old people.  The Charleston shooting suspect is 21.

 

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2011 finding by sociologists from Harvard and Tufts: A sample of white Americans (which included more than just the elderly) said that discrimination against them had increased — and 11 percent of whites gave anti-white bias the most serious possible rating, compared with only 2 percent of whites who did so for anti-black bias.

Add to that the fact that the majority of Roof's fellow millennials — even the ones with the purest possible intentions — believe "never considering race would improve society" (73 percent, according to a 2014 MTV survey). That's sweet of them, but there's also a strong case to be made that this colorblind approach is the perfect way to make sure the racism that exists around them goes undiscussed and unchecked. Evidence of that is that a full 62 percent believe — against all the evidence of racial disparities and the explicit and implicit bias against African Americans that perpetuate them — that Obama's presidency proves that blacks "have the same opportunities as whites." This basic misunderstanding provides one ingredient for the kind of confused anxiety about white victimization that seems to have fueled Roof's thinking.

Out-of-touch elderly people are not the only racists

Roof is not the only young person with a lot of years left on Earth who's just as bad if not worse than older people when it comes to racism.

Recall that the white men from Mississippi who were sentenced for hate crimes last year after they beat a black man and ran over his body with a truck were just teens when they committed the horrifying act.

And remember that the Ferguson, Missouri, city officials found by the Justice Department to have systematically discriminated against African Americans, and the San Francisco police officers whose hateful text messages revealed their deep anti-black biaseswere all, by definition, pre-retirement. These are people who are going to be around for a while. They're also people who we can assume are communicating their views to their children.

And of course, these are just examples. They barely scratch the surface of our nation's thriving systemic racism that needs no help from a gun-toting 21-year-old with a bowl cut or elderly racists to do its work. In fact, it would survive just fine, even if every American with graying hair were to suddenly disappear.

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1 hour ago, bludog said:

Good compilation of maps; All showing different aspects of the same phenomenon:  The deplorables, bigots and know-nothings are shortening their lives with irresponsible lifestyles and unhealthy behaviors.  The longevity gap is dramatic, being about 20 years, in some places, between those who neglect their health and tend to be cons, and those who take better care of themselves, and tend to be more liberal.

It goes to their character. Like Trump, they are hedonists. We have loftier pursuits such as enlightenment and self-actualization. By every measure of morality we are better than them.  It may sound arrogant but it's the truth. 

1 hour ago, bludog said:

 

But it would appear that however abbreviated their lives, these deporables are passing their pathology on to the next generation.  There is a false perception, among many liberals, that all we have to do is wait until the old generation of right wing extremists die off, for the Nation to swing left again.  Unfortunately, that's not happening.

 

https://www.vox.com/2015/6/22/8810539/racism-generational-american-views

 

 

Supposedly, every generation's collective IQ increases and generally smart people are inquisitive. Maybe some of them will come around. That said, poor white trash breed like flies.  

 

I wonder though if the number haters is growing smaller but the haters are getting more evil? I'm alway left with this reality. When it came time for the Republican voters to pick their presidential candidate, the rejected Kasich and went for the two biggest scumbags Trump and Cruz. Then they picked the biggest scumbag of the two.  It is hard to see righties as opponents. I see them as the enemy more dangerous than foreign terrorists. I know they are not Mensa material but I truly believe they are more evil than they are stupid. What do you think?

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10 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day!

 

This is not appropriate.

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looks like another condemnation party 

 

 Have a nice day validating your choices 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day!

 

11 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

poor white trash breed like flies.  

 

2 hours ago, Renegade said:

This is not appropriate.

 

1 hour ago, rrober49 said:

looks like another condemnation party 

 

 Have a nice day validating your choices

 

I was taken aback also, when I saw this invective.  I too would rather not see language like this in LO.  But if you read the rules for LO, you will see that there is no violation.  

https://www.liberalforum.org/topic/231752-rules-for-liberals-only-room-newcomers-please-read/

 

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17 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

I know they are not Mensa material but I truly believe they are more evil than they are stupid. What do you think?

 

A loaded but interesting question which I choose to answer, but not literally, since its more extreme implications do not reflect my beliefs.  I see the winner of the  liberal vs conservative rivalry as being determined by quality of communication with the American people.  So far, the right is doing a more effective job.

 

Anyone in the Bible Belt already lives in a culture which reinforces extreme right wing dogma.  They get it in church and from their neighbors, as well as right wing media.  Some are quite bright and others not.  But many, living in conservative communities merely accept and repeat the party line, merely to maintain social acceptance ...  They merely want to fit in.   Others are more pro-active in their promotion of tribalism, the cult of ignorance, and the new conservative line of the last 35 years. 

 

Often, outside conservative areas of the country people become hooked on Fox News or Limbaugh, etc.  They might be living in otherwise liberal-leaning families, surrounded by a culture of liberalism.  Often they are elderly and suffering from chronic ailments.  Many times, they find comfort and escape in Fox, which confers "in-group" status on them through racism and ethnic hate. 

 

Here is the genius of Fox News:  Any salesperson or con artist will tell you that you can’t inject a thought in a mark’s mind out of nowhere. You have to find the hook that’s already there ... fear, or desire ...  and exploit it.  When it comes to exacerbating and honing the anxieties of aging Americans you can’t do much better (or worse) than race and immigration.  Fox didn’t necessarily change anyone’s mind, so much as it seems to have supercharged and weaponized a politics that was otherwise easy for more astute white Americans to overlook in their vulnerable, elderly loved ones

 

The right wing media is always recruiting susceptible Americans whether they be elderly or young.  This is why waiting for the old, conservative generation to die out, is futile.  The left needs to develop an effective communications network, in the US to not only counter the right wing media, but promote a liberal worldview, as well.   So far, we are not doing so well.  MSNBC is owned by conservative COMCAST and its commentators are censored on wealth-gap issues and labor.  CNN is owned by Warner Media Group which contributes to both democratic and republican politicians.

 

Compared to Fox News and the massive, conservative talk radio, liberals are not getting out their message nearly as well as the conservative side.

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people who live in front of the rules and people who live behind them

 

 

13 hours ago, bludog said:

Good compilation of maps; All showing different aspects of the same phenomenon:  The deplorables, bigots and know-nothings are shortening their lives with irresponsible lifestyles and unhealthy behaviors.  The longevity gap is dramatic, being about 20 years, in some places, between those who neglect their health and tend to be cons, and those who take better care of themselves, and tend to be more liberal.

 

was thinking of my parents  who died to smoking and obesity 

 

my father was forced to leave school and go to work in the 8th grade ran any from home at 16  by enlisting in the marines.... was told he could play baseball

 

 my mother was used by rich white people to birth 3 children and was promptly left on the curb with suit case in tow after 

 

 needless to say when i came along it was a mess and started smoking at 12 for the release and to add 20 years to my life would be nothing short of wishing a curse on me 

 

 gets hard to break the mold some would place on us

 

 

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5 minutes ago, rrober49 said:

to add 20 years to my life would be nothing short of wishing a curse on me 

 

gets hard to break the mold some would place on us

 

We are all slaves of our upbringing, to some degree.  We can never entirely escape our beginnings.   But you seem to have come a longer way toward breaking the mold than might have been expected.  Is that accurate?

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46 minutes ago, rrober49 said:

people who live in front of the rules and people who live behind them

 

Some people will always fall through the cracks.  That said, the rules need to be changed.   In some places the rules are more progressive.   In the Social Democracies of the world, there are social programs to help the most unfortunate and helpless, to any degree possible.  Today, in the US, politics are working against the little person.  Only a handful of plutocrats, who mostly control the government, are making gains.

 

Economic well-being is an extremely important factor to instill a sense of self-worth.  When people are faced with titanic struggles, just to get by, they tend to think less of themselves and are more likely to give up.  In order to maximize the potential of every individual, which, in turn, makes a nation great, we need to make sure everyone gets their fair share of the pie.  If the USA keeps on its present course, politically and economically, our standing in the world is bound to deteriorate even further than it has already.

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4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

A loaded but interesting question which I choose to answer, but not literally, since its more extreme implications do not reflect my beliefs.  I see the winner of the  liberal vs conservative rivalry as being determined by quality of communication with the American people.  So far, the right is doing a more effective job.

Trump has a 46% approval rating and the the few real conservatives who are left despise him. George Will, Joe Scarborough, Bill Crystal, Michael Steele, Richard Painter, Ann Coulter, Jeff Flake, Bill Corker etc... can't stand Trump. The National Review

 

Do you actually think that the MAGAts are conservatives?  Conservatives Rail Against Trump’s Ballooning Budget Deficit

4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

Many in the Bible Belt and already live in a culture which reinforces extreme right wing dogma.  They get it in church and from their neighbors, as well as right wing media.  Some are quite bright and others not.  But many, living in conservative communities merely accept and repeat the party line, merely to maintain social acceptance ...  They merely want to fit in.   Others are more pro-active in their promotion of tribalism, the cult of ignorance, and the new conservative line of the last 35 years. 

There is a right wing Jesus and a left wing Jesus. The right wing Jesus is a creation of the Southern churches to to justify slavery and to justify their own depravity. The doctrine of salvation through grace is why they are so depraved on every measure of immorality. Catholics confess their sins and Jews make atonement. Fundies think that when the roll around on the floor, babble in coherently and foam at the mouth that they are "saved".  The churches keep them coming back and tithing so that they won't lose their salvation. The Bible says that grace is unconditional and that salvation is determined before the creation of time. Most churches are a form of extortion.

 

Christ wanted us to care for one another. 

4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

Also, many people outside conservative areas of the country become hooked on Fox News or Limbaugh, etc.  They might be living in othewise liberal-leaning families, surrounded by a culture of liberalism.  Often they are elderly and suffering from chronic ailments.  Many times, they find comfort and escape in Fox, which confers "in-group" status on them through racism and ethnic hate.

I think a lot of people get the liberal label stuck on them. Obama was not a liberal and neither was Bill or Hillary. Bill was a law and order fiscal conservative and a social moderate.  What explains the Fox and right wing radio lemmings is this verse. 

 
and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason, God will sendthem a powerful delusion so that they will believethe lie, 12in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.…
 
I know you don't agree with me but every logical fact points to the fact that beyond being deceived, Trump supporters are evil. They break most of the commandments and they are guilty of most of the 7 deadly sins and the facts prove it. If you want to take it out of the Biblical realm we can look at Maslow's Hierarchy of needs of the chakras. We can call them evil or undesirable but no matter what you call it, they are bad for society and the earth. 

 

4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

Here is the genius of Fox News:  Any salesperson or con artist will tell you that you can’t inject a thought in a mark’s mind out of nowhere. You have to find the hook that’s already there ... fear, or desire ...  and exploit it.  When it comes to exacerbating and honing the anxieties of aging Americans you can’t do much better (or worse) than race and immigration.  Fox didn’t necessarily change anyone’s mind, so much as it seems to have supercharged and weaponized a politics that was otherwise easy for more astute white Americans to overlook in their loved ones.

When people long for the truth and think for themselves it's hard to con them. Ignorance is not a virtue.  Good people won't fall for the Trumpism. To embrace Trumpery one must embrace lust, greedy, envy, pride, gluttony, wrath and sloth.

 

LUST: They have no problem with his pussy grabbing and infidelity.

 

GREED: They love it that Trump is greedy. They see it as a virtue.

 

ENVY: They are jealous of us. We live better and we are smarter.

 

PRIDE: Trump is the most ego driven narcissist I've ever seen. They love that about him.

 

GLUTTONY: Look at them and look at him. WRATH: They say the most vile things.

 

SLOTH: The are both physically lazy and intellectually lazy.

 

Let's not overly analyze them.  They are what they are. It goes way past their behaviors. Their behavior reflects their core.

4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

The right wing media is always recruiting vulnerable Americans whether they be elderly or young.  This is why waiting for the old, conservative generation to die out, is futile.  The left needs to develop an effective communications network, in the US to not only counter the right wing media, but promote a liberal worldview, as well.   So far, we are not doing so well.  MSNBC is owned by conservative COMCAST and its commentators are censored on wealth-gap issues and labor.  CNN is owned by Warner Media Group which contributes to both democratic and republican politicians.

I think that a lot of Hitler's supporters were conned because Hitler controlled the media but today everyone has a choice. We can point out the right wing lies to the MAGAts and they don't care. They prefer lies. Even a very stupid person know the difference between the truth and a lie. The MAGAts will tell you that MSNBC and CNN are socialist. I think they are both fairly honest for a corporate owned  entity. No corporate media will report on the medical industry which is the biggest thief and killer the planet has ever seen. The white coat Mafia is doing more damage to the world and to personal finances than Trump could ever dream of doing and neither side cares. The media won't report it.  

 

CNN and MSNBC concentrate on Trump when they should be ambushing the MAGAts. I keep going back the the fact that the MAGAts rejected everyone but Trump and Cruz.  The conservative media was pushing Jeb Bush. He would probably have been better than W. The MAGAts rejected him in favor of the two most deplorable creeps in politics. The MAGAtry was there long before Trump. The MAGAts are not conservatives. The MAGAts are MAGAts.  They don't think. They cannot be reasoned with. On other forums I did a name the president thread. I listed stuff about Reagan and they thought it was liberal. 

 

Today a liberal is someone why understands and accepts facts. The Republicans are not fiscal conservatives and their social conservatism isn't really conservatism. Abortion is an example of that. A true conservative would be neutral on that issue. Do you remember when Republican were "family values"? When it comes to morals Republicans are very immoral.

4 hours ago, bludog said:

 

Compared to Fox News and the massive, conservative talk radio, liberals are not getting out their message nearly as well as the conservative side.

 

Who do you want the message to reach? What do you want the message to be?

 

A lie will travel 1/2 way around the world before the truth gets its shoes on.  -Mark Twain-

 

There was a time when liars got the crap beating out of them. Today, there are no consequences for liars. IMO, that is why we are in the mess we are in. IMO, we have more deplorable people people than there were in Nazi Germany.  There is nothing that can be done to make bad people good people. If everyone was honorable we would not need many laws or police.  Our only hope IMO is to severely punish liars. Under Sharia law the tongues of liars are cut out. 

 

I used to believe that there was good in everyone. I was naive then. Then I believed that some people just choose to do bad things. I was naive then too. Good people do bad things sometimes and bad people do good things sometimes. There are a lot of people who are beyond redemption and they breed. This is a tough pill for us liberals and pros to swallow. MAGAts are no damn good.

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If the most of the current crop of so-called "conservatives" are morally deficient, those on the left are not the ones to discipline them.  Punishing political opponents perceived as "evil"  who, despite their beliefs, have done nothing illegal, would be absurd ...  And morally wrong in and of itself.  The best way to deal with bigots, plutocrats and political knaves is to hand them defeat at the ballot box. 

 

Enough defeats, over a long-enough period of time, and the gang that's got most of the power now, will gradually lose all influence and relevance on the national stage.  As we speak, over a dozen democratic hopefuls are engaged in a competition to show who can best win hearts and minds from the right.

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On 4/11/2019 at 9:59 PM, BlueDoggL said:

As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day! This is cause to celebrate!

 

Leonard Cohen wrote:

 



You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little Jew who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future: it is murder.

 

And he was right.

Dehumanization and demonization of opponents is disgraceful when one side does it. When both sides do it, especially the side that deluded itself that it knows better, then it leads inexorably to disaster.

 

Get ready for the future.

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1 hour ago, laripu said:

 

Leonard Cohen wrote:

 

 

 

 

And he was right.

Dehumanization and demonization of opponents is disgraceful when one side does it. When both sides do it, especially the side that deluded itself that it knows better, then it leads inexorably to disaster.

 

Get ready for the future.

 

Cohen mentions the Belsen heap in one of his poems.  The Belsen heap was a giant pile of the bodies of dead Jews. The people who did that were not misguided or tricked by Hitler. They were every bit as evil as Hitler and they helped to bring Hitler to power. They are subhuman and they are beyond redemption. 

 

Don't be naive and think that there is good in everyone because there isn't. 7% of Germans were members of the Nazi party. They chose an ideology that only sub-humans would choose.  We can equivocate and say that they had bad parents and mommy took them off the tit too soon or we can look at it pragmatically and admit that most of then can't or won't change. We can get even more honest and admit that they contribute nothing good to humanity and they drag down humanity. 

 

Do you seriously believe that a corporate gangster like Heather Bresch who raised the price of the epipen to outrageous prices How EpiPen came to symbolize corporate greed can feel remorse and somehow become human? Do you think anyone can teach people like her a lesson in humanity? People like her have now humanity.

 

We get smug and say how ignorant and stupid the MAGAts are. They are not as stupid and we give them credit for and their ignorance is also something that they choose. It is not their stupidity and ignorance that makes them sub-human, rather it is their basic lack of humanity that allows them to wallow in their ignorance. Why they are what they are and why they are impervious to truth, facts and logic is academic and theoretical, their negative effect on humanity is real.

 

Real world example:  Cops are confronted with a crazy man wielding a sword and chasing people with it. The crazy man has already injured several people. The cops asked him to stop and drop the sword but the crazy man will not comply. The crazy man may not even be a bad man. He may be off his meds. Eventually the crazy man charges the cops and the cops shoot him dead. Are the cops wrong? They killed a man and in the process they saved lives. 

 

Whether you believe MAGAts are demons or not is academic. The damage they do is real. The good they do is none. I will encourage them to eat more bacon and smoke more so that they will die sooner because dead MAGAts tell no lies. Biblically speaking they are already damned. The sooner they are gone from this life and in hell the better for everyone. 

 

I believe that the behavior of MAGAts is largely a product of nature and genes. They are the pitbulls of homosapiens. I advocate outlawing and ending the breed. Pitbulls kill people and other dogs because that is what they are bred to do. MAGAts shoot up schools, mosques and churches.

 

We need to stop solely blaming Trump for the actions of MAGAts and instead we should be blaming MAGAts for the actions of Trump. The MAGAts created Trump and they fuel his debauchery and lying.  The Rethuglican base had a lot of candidates to choose during the presidential primary and they went for the most immoral and most depraved on of the bunch. The news pundits theorize as to how Trump's salesmanship being why the MAGAts picked him. Trump is not a great salesman or marketing expert as evidenced by his failed businesses. The truth is the depravity of Trump resonated with the depravity of the Republican base. While there may be some who were conned, the vast majority of the MAGAts are exactly what Hillary said they were....DEPLORABLE!

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1 hour ago, BlueDoggL said:

They are subhuman and they are beyond redemption.

 

 

Wrong, and dangerous.

 

1 hour ago, BlueDoggL said:

Don't be naive and think that there is good in everyone because there isn't. 7% of Germans were members of the Nazi party. They chose an ideology that only sub-humans would choose.

 

I'm on record in these fora, saying that 35% of every nation consists of angry, dangerous people. That's part of our human evolution.

 

They can be in either side of any contentious issue. You are one of them.

 

When someone calls people sub-human, they show their true colors. You may profer liberal views, but you're a person with a dangerous and extreme viewpoint. If liberals follow that viewpoint, they will follow it right to the same concentration camps, albeit with different inhabitants. The goal of the leader, though, will always be the same: to motivate followers and gain power. The followers will realize their crimes and won't be able to peacefully back out.

 

It described Hitler, Stalin, Trump, and quite possibly you.

 

1 hour ago, BlueDoggL said:

While there may be some who were conned, the vast majority of the MAGAts are exactly what Hillary said they were....DEPLORABLE!

 

I started a thread about that exact thing. See here: 

 

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10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

Wrong, and dangerous.

Truth is truth. Them having the same number of chromosomes does not give them humanity. There is not much difference between inhuman, inhumane and sub-human. What makes us human and humane they don't have. 

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

 

I'm on record in these fora, saying that 35% of every nation consists of angry, dangerous people. That's part of our human evolution.

You have no science to back that up. There are African tribes that go to war and the war ends when one of them gets injured. If it is true that the US has 35% angry dangerous people then it would be immoral to not purge them from our country. People in the Bible Belt are more dangerous than people in the northeast. Get rid of them and we will be as peaceful as the Asia and Scandinavia. 

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

They can be in either side of any contentious issue. You are one of them.

The most dangerous and depraved in history are righties. If you try trolling me you WILL lose badly so you better knock that off.

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

When someone calls people sub-human, they show their true colors. You may profer liberal views, but you're a person with a dangerous and extreme viewpoint. If liberals follow that viewpoint, they will follow it right to the same concentration camps, albeit with different inhabitants. The goal of the leader, though, will always be the same: to motivate followers and gain power. The followers will realize their crimes and won't be able to peacefully back out.

Save your blue pills for sining Kumbaya around a campfire. Next thing you will be saying, violence never solved anything. Unlike the I like dead traitors, dead racists and dead fascists. I think you need to see these quotes when it comes to dealing with oppressors Mary Poppins.

Terror is nothing more than justice, prompt, secure and inflexible.

 

To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is cruelty.

 

Terror is only justice: prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country.

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

It described Hitler, Stalin, Trump, and quite possibly you.

I can think of some word for peaceniks. Here they are, cowards, naive, foolish, delusional, oppressed. Lincoln should have given Sherman 6 more months to terrorize the South and execute a few million treasonous members of the criminal elite and their lackeys who were the MAGAts of their day. 

 

It has been said that terror is the principle of despotic government. Does your government therefore resemble despotism? Yes, as the sword that gleams in the hands of the heroes of liberty resembles that with which the henchmen of tyranny are armed ... The government of the revolution is liberty's despotism against tyranny.

10 hours ago, laripu said:

 

 

I started a thread about that exact thing. See here: 

 

Hillary was 100% correct. 

 

See the source image

 

I'm willing to fight for America. Are you?

Smuggle out the truth, pass it through all the obstacles that its enemies fabricate; multiply, spread by all means possible her message so that she may triumph; through zeal and civic action counterbalance the influence of money and the machinations lavished on the propagation of deception. That, in my opinion, is the most useful activity and the most sacred duty of pure patriotism.

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2 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

 

I wrote that their are angry and dangerous people on both sides if a political divide. By lauding a terrorist, the evil Robapierre, you prove you are one of them. I will have nothing to do with you.

 

You advocate violence to people you don't even know.

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2 hours ago, BlueDoggL said:

People in the Bible Belt are more dangerous than people in the northeast. Get rid of them and we will be as peaceful as the Asia and Scandinavia.

 

Ah, you advocate peace through mass murder.

 

And you advocating terror.

 

I'm 100% right about you. You're an angry and dangerous person, just another tribal extremist.

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10 minutes ago, JohnyWhittaker said:

With all that chit-chat

 

JohnyWhittaker:---  Conservatives are not allowed to post in the Liberal's Only Room.  You are welcome in NHB or anywhere else on the site, except LO.  Notice your post is gone. 

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20 hours ago, bludog said:

 

JohnyWhittaker:---  Conservatives are not allowed to post in the Liberal's Only Room.  You are welcome in NHB or anywhere else on the site, except LO.  Notice your post is gone. 

Sorry, my bad, didn't noticed that.

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On 4/11/2019 at 9:59 PM, BlueDoggL said:

You health starts with you. One of the biggest drivers of health care profits is obesity. The co-morbidities associated with obesity are many and the medical industry is exploiting them for all they are worth.  They have hiked the price on insulin which is unfair to the type one diabetics. The medical industry is making a fortune on C-PAP machines, statin drugs, knee and hip replacements, diabetic amputations, diabetic wound care, heart surgeries, weight loss surgeries etc...

 

Every cloud has a silver lining. We live longer than the MAGAts because we have more responsible lifestyles. We exercise and we have better diets and most of use are not smokers.  

 

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We should always be looking into life extension while the MAGAts waddle to their doctors for dangerous medications.

 

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As usual the trash in the Bible Belt dies sooner than anyone else. Oh happy day! This is cause to celebrate! As our life expectancy is increasing, their's is decreasing!  

 

Longevity age gap

 

 

 

Life Expectancy Can Vary By 20 Years Depending On Where You Live

That caused me to have a panic attack. I need a cigarette now.☹️

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On 4/14/2019 at 7:36 AM, laripu said:

 

Ah, you advocate peace through mass murder.

 

And you advocating terror.

 

I'm 100% right about you. You're an angry and dangerous person, just another tribal extremist.

He Stinks like a dirty sock.

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I would like people to try and live a healthier life style. Sometimes that's not easy when you have healthy food deserts in places where there are no jobs. Sometimes it's not easy to promote a healthy non-smoking life style when you have large Tobacco companies pushing Tobacco to young kids all the while knowing that they made their cigarettes to be addictive.

Poor people in many areas suffer from over weight and diabetes, this is very true. Salt, and sugar have been shown to be addictive. Many people grow up in processed food prisons starting almost at birth.

 

Blame all those people who got hooked on opiates and just round them up and put em all in prisons. That's what Purdue Pharma, makers of Oxycotin would like to do. And what about the distributors, Mckesson, Cardinal Health, AmeriSource? 

 

What about the members of the US Congress who stood by and did nothing? 

 

You blame people because their jobs were lost and they have nothing left. And then, those people are saturated with misinformation campaigns. 

What is this, some kind of war where we just hold up our hands and call those others who are poor and struggling the true problem? 

 

Do you know what it is like not to have healthcare and to be truly sick and in urgent need of medical help? It's an outrage!

 

Peace!

 

 

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I don't want a president or a Congress that divides the US. I want answers to problems that people face. What do we do when we realize that we need to stop using coal, let all the coal miners go home without any jobs? What do we do if we ever decide to go to single payer health insurance to save money and to make sure that every single person in the US has qualified and true guaranteed complete health care no matter what, does that mean we will just let all those who work for private health insurance corporations just go without a job, and say, hey, sorry, you were on the wrong side of history?

 

We are in a bind. We all must agree. Well at least most of us need to agree. We have to step up, and determine an outcome that leaves no Americans in the dark. And it's not impossible, but we do need to try.

 

Peace!  

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