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New Zealand shooting: Graphic video. Those with soft stomachs should not view.

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27 minutes ago, David_R said:

Got it back up. For the sake of remembering history. Please download and spread. 

Nope I saw enough. I had to stop. it was sick to see somebody just shooting a pile of people in the corner of a room

 

I'm scarred for life it was surreal like a movie scene. And what was with the British and the Russian music as they were driving to the mosque

 

those were some sick motherfukers they had white writing all over their guns

 

I understand why good people of Faith all around the world are expressing their condolences and concern for the well-being of the families of the victims

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That does not deserve to be spread in any way shape or form these guys deserve no praise whatsoever they deserve to go to hell

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3 minutes ago, duck33 said:

Well that was pretty messed up.

Yep in the chief is using his megaphone to continue to spread this kind of dumb s***

 

he is ignoring that violent crimes by white racism has gone up 50% since he's been president

 

I say it is time for a veto override

 

the shooter and Trump use the word invader on the same day

 

military funding is supposed to be diverted for the wall but nobody in the military knows which funding is going to be diverted

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This video, made by the gunman himself, is intended to encourage other sick-minded white supremacists to commit more atrocities.  Wide dissemination of this video is EXACTLY what the gunman intended.  Spreading this video plays right into the gunman, Brenton Tarrant's hands.

 

There is good reason Facebook, which has a history of being lax where hate speech is concerned, removed as many copies of this video as possible.

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1 hour ago, David_R said:

Got deleted by Vimeo after few minutes. I will look for other place to host.

 

Thank you
Haven't been able to find it in the states.
Wish I knew how to save it.

Free speech for one thing.
Another equally important thing is it shows EXACTLY how futile the anti gunner argument to "lie still and play dead" is.
Or how futile it is to not attack when given the opportunity.

Lot's of good can be had from this video.
Censorship is never good



 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Five By Five said:

Yep in the chief is using his megaphone to continue to spread this kind of dumb s***

 

he is ignoring that violent crimes by white racism has gone up 50% since he's been president

 

I say it is time for a veto override

 

the shooter and Trump use the word invader on the same day

 

military funding is supposed to be diverted for the wall but nobody in the military knows which funding is going to be diverted

Well, if the violence spreads it'll most likely be sometime in the next 2 weeks. Supposedly that's when copycats are most likely. 

 

What confuses me is New Zealand gun laws. They can own semi auto rifles, but self defense isnt a viable reason to get the license. One, why would it be so easy for this guy, not a person even from New Zealand, to get them? What reason did he use on his application and why didmt his purchasing of all those weapons set off any red flags?

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2 minutes ago, duck33 said:

Well, if the violence spreads it'll most likely be sometime in the next 2 weeks. Supposedly that's when copycats are most likely. 

 

What confuses me is New Zealand gun laws. They can own semi auto rifles, but self defense isnt a viable reason to get the license. One, why would it be so easy for this guy, not a person even from New Zealand, to get them? What reason did he use on his application and why didmt his purchasing of all those weapons set off any red flags?

We don't need gun laws in United States so why bother talking about them in New Zealand?

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44 minutes ago, Squatchman said:

   You're the one who thinks its ok to kill them in churches.

  Who is sick?

I have Duck on ignore.  He's the worst kind of angry and stupid.  You can't reason with him or learn from him.  

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1 hour ago, Squatchman said:

   You're the one who thinks its ok to kill them in churches.

  Who is sick?

who thinks tht? you present a false argument

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is this legal? as i have said before this forum is going to get in trouble many of the things you allow here are illegal i mean there are laws concenring posting child porn and terrism who the Bad word is in charge here? are you ready for a parole hearing?

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3 minutes ago, guilluamezenz said:

who thinks tht? you present a false argument

  Duck does.

 Read the whole thread.

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27 minutes ago, TrumpBGoneSoon said:

I have Duck on ignore.  He's the worst kind of angry and stupid.  You can't reason with him or learn from him.  

all I can figure for anybody to be like that they must have been a victim of child sexual abuse

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2 hours ago, David_R said:

why have you posted tis/ by posting this you have commited a felony, enjoy your time in prison, seriously what is the point are you happy this hapend do you want to encourage more of it, enjoy your moment, it will cost you, i promise you that

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i'd like to say two things i am warning you as a favor you open yourself up to prosecution and civil penlty by allowing this on your site, ignore this warning at your peril

secondly this video proves an important thing about gun laws, if semi automatics were banned or even as in canada magazines were restricted to 5 or even ten, the body count would not be 50, it might be 5 or ten semi automatic rifles have to be banned, if he had to change clip/magzines more often some one could have rushed him, in a way thanks no really people can now see why these guns needs to be banned people that own them own them for one reason to live out sick fantasies like this maybe they should post these videos maybe it should be legal people need to see why exactly weapons like this are not to be allowed in the hands of civilians

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15 minutes ago, Squatchman said:

  Duck does.

 Read the whole thread.

i want to warn all of you advocating killing muslsim chritians jews commmunists any of this is actionable.. in most european nations it is a felony as it is in canada, new zeland will reach out through interpol and as rape you for posting this Bad word.. only in america is this considered free sppech and trust me it will incite more violence you pour gasoline on a flame

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5 minutes ago, guilluamezenz said:

why have you posted tis/ by posting this you have commited a felony, enjoy your time in prison, seriously what is the point are you happy this hapend do you want to encourage more of it, enjoy your moment, it will cost you, i promise you that

 

I don't know what world you live on Jr. but this isn't it.

The censorship of that video is voluntary, not law.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chuck! said:

 

I don't know what world you live on Jr. but this isn't it.

The censorship of that video is voluntary, not law.

 

 

 

oh no it is law and you will very soon feel the legal backlash

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Care to cite the statute you are referring to or would you rather just call the FBI and find out yourself?

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4 minutes ago, Chuck! said:

Care to cite the statute you are referring to or would you rather just call the FBI and find out yourself?

You're right it's not a legal standard it's a moral standard

 

how many bonehead White punks on dope out there get a kick out of watching that crap of somebody just flailing on a pile of people in the corner of a room with a automatic weapon

 

and Chuck you know their sickos out there watching it over and over and over and over again it's like a video game to these dumbasses

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1 hour ago, Chuck! said:

Free speech for one thing.

-snip-
Censorship is never good

 

Everyone knows that falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is punishable by law:--  Schenck v. United States.  Some things are so heinous, they are better suppressed.  The gunman might not have made a video.  But the fact that he did does not obligate anyone to comply with his with his wishes by disseminating it.  

 

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Another equally important thing is it shows EXACTLY how futile the anti gunner argument to "lie still and play dead" is.
Or how futile it is to not attack when given the opportunity.

Lot's of good can be had from this video.

 

There is some instructive value to the video.  But nothing about which law enforcement can't educate the public.   The gunman was not looking to educate the public on what to do if caught in a mass shooting.  His purpose in making the video can only have been to encourage other sick individuals to commit similar, violent atrocities.  Disseminating the video only accomplishes the gunman's purpose.

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8 minutes ago, bludog said:

 

Everyone knows that falsely yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is punishable by law:--  Schenck v. United States.  Some things are so heinous, they are better suppressed.  The gunman might not have made a video.  But the fact that he did does not obligate anyone to comply with his with his wishes by disseminating it.  

 

 

There is some instructive value to the video.  But nothing about which law enforcement can't educate the public.   The gunman was not looking to educate the public on what to do if caught in a mass shooting.  His purpose in making the video can only have been to encourage other sick individuals to commit similar, violent atrocities.  Disseminating the video only accomplishes the gunman's purpose.

+100

 

it was extremely painful to watch I couldn't finish it and I never want to see it again

 

The white hieroglyphic writing on the uzis just was freaky

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1 minute ago, jerra- said:

the man is one sick lunatic,

And they're increasing and the rate of white racist crime has increased 50% since Donald Trump has been president

 

I know we're not supposed to correlate any meaning into that

 

But Trump use the word invader on the same day that the shooter did

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