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I am a republican by nature however the party has been a takeover victim by the Fascist Libertarian Fundamentalist group. Most republicans don't seem to care.

 

 nationalization of the energy industry, public ownership of banks, telephone, electric, health insurance and drug companies WOULD NOT be a bad idea as owners would be the users and users would be the managers.

 

And take a look at these items: People need these items and all of these receive large tax dollar subsidies and taxpayer bailouts. So it seems nationalization has taken place therefore these tenants should be evicted immediately and all be managed without CEO's and BOD's.

 

Medicare for All will provide money for services 24/7 no matter what.....unlike the most current model.

 

No one will need to make payments = great use of tax dollars. best insurance ever.

 

 

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On 3/16/2019 at 12:04 AM, merrill said:

No one will need to make payments = great use of tax dollars. best insurance ever.

Do you mind paying 30% income tax? How about a VAT of 20%.

Where is the money going to come from to pay for this insurance?
 

According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal government took in a bit under $3.3 trillion in revenue in 2016.

Estimates from various sources say that the Medicare for all will cost somewhere between $2.4 to $2.8 trillion a year.

Seeing that we are already running on deficit, DOUBLING your existing taxes will barely cover the cost of Medicare for all.

 

 

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In addition more than 44% of Americans pay ZERO (0) income tax. I pay taxes and get zero refund.

 

My taxes should double so I can pay for Medicare for all for people that pay for nothing?

 

ONCE AGAIN! WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY FOR THIS?
 

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16

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Eliminating all of the below from the medical insurance industry will reduce costs significantly annually?

 

* corp jets

• its bureaucracy

  profits

  high corporate salaries

  advertising

*  over charges

  sales commissions

• Shareholders CERTAINLY increases the cost of insurance

• Special  interest campaign dollars

* Golden parachutes

* Politicians as shareholders

 

In general eliminates reckless spending of YOUR health care dollars

 

* Eliminates Politicians as shareholders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

Eliminates Insurers Wrongfully Charging Consumers Billions http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

*Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0IQKZLHHh&C

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Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.

 

At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Sen. Jay Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."

 

The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.

 

"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.

 

Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

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About Single Payer

Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.

 

The program would be funded by combining our current, considerable sources of public funding (such as Medicare and Medicaid) with modest new taxes based on ability to pay.

 

Over $500 billion in administrative savings would be realized by replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer.

 

Premiums would disappear, and 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.

 

The Medicare for All Act of 2019, H.R. 1384, based on PNHP’s AJPH-published Physicians’ Proposal, would establish an American single-payer health insurance system.

 

What about Obamacare?

The Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”) aims to expand coverage to about 30 million Americans by requiring people to buy private insurance policies (partially subsidizing those policies by government payments to private insurers) and by expanding Medicaid.

 

However:

  • About 30 million people will still be uninsured in 2023, and tens of millions will remain underinsured.
  • Insurers will continue to strip down policies, maintain restrictive networks, limit and deny care, and increase patients’ co-pays, deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs.
  • The law preserves our fragmented financing system, making it impossible to control costs.
  • The law continues the unfair financing of health care, whereby costs are disproportionately borne by middle- and lower-income Americans and those families facing acute or chronic illness.

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On 9/20/2019 at 10:20 PM, merrill said:

About Single Payer

Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.

 

The program would be funded by combining our current, considerable sources of public funding (such as Medicare and Medicaid) with modest new taxes based on ability to pay.

 

Over $500 billion in administrative savings would be realized by replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer.

 

Premiums would disappear, and 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.

 

The Medicare for All Act of 2019, H.R. 1384, based on PNHP’s AJPH-published Physicians’ Proposal, would establish an American single-payer health insurance system.

 

What about Obamacare?

The Affordable Care Act (“Obamacare”) aims to expand coverage to about 30 million Americans by requiring people to buy private insurance policies (partially subsidizing those policies by government payments to private insurers) and by expanding Medicaid.

 

However:

  • About 30 million people will still be uninsured in 2023, and tens of millions will remain underinsured.
  • Insurers will continue to strip down policies, maintain restrictive networks, limit and deny care, and increase patients’ co-pays, deductibles and other out-of-pocket costs.
  • The law preserves our fragmented financing system, making it impossible to control costs.
  • The law continues the unfair financing of health care, whereby costs are disproportionately borne by middle- and lower-income Americans and those families facing acute or chronic illness.

 

 

ONCE AGAIN! WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY FOR THIS?

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On 9/15/2019 at 5:27 AM, SBED said:

In addition more than 44% of Americans pay ZERO (0) income tax. I pay taxes and get zero refund.

 

My taxes should double so I can pay for Medicare for all for people that pay for nothing?

 

ONCE AGAIN! WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY FOR THIS?
 

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16

Are you bad at math? you do know that single payer is cheaper than current system, real question you be asking is where does that money come from? But in any case you know the answer taxes, but what are you health care premiums now? The go away and you save way more than you pooay unless you are in the top 1% then you pay more, maybe way more but that also addresses the other huge problem we have wealth inequality. If we don't do single payer health care how would you address the wealth inequality?

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On 9/20/2019 at 3:30 PM, merrill said:

Eliminating all of the below from the medical insurance industry will reduce costs significantly annually?

 

* corp jets

• its bureaucracy

  profits

  high corporate salaries

  advertising

*  over charges

  sales commissions

• Shareholders CERTAINLY increases the cost of insurance

• Special  interest campaign dollars

* Golden parachutes

* Politicians as shareholders

 

In general eliminates reckless spending of YOUR health care dollars

 

* Eliminates Politicians as shareholders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

Eliminates Insurers Wrongfully Charging Consumers Billions http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

*Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0IQKZLHHh&C

 

Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.

 

At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell "junk" policies that do not cover needed care. Sen. Jay Rockefeller said he was exploring "why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies."

 

The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don't trust the insurers.

 

"The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable -- publicly accountable -- health-care option," said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.

 

Insurers make paperwork confusing because "they realize that people will just simply give up and not pursue it" if they think they have been shortchanged, Potter said.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

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Just cut off corporate subsidies = replace with corporations standing on their own two feet = a novel idea

 

Reduce trillions in war spending = bring those dollars home to cover cost on all in America = sensible investment in Americans

 

 

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5 hours ago, merrill said:

Just cut off corporate subsidies = replace with corporations standing on their own two feet = a novel idea

 

Reduce trillions in war spending = bring those dollars home to cover cost on all in America = sensible investment in Americans

 

 

 

Just take existing tax dollars from a variety of sources and don't raise taxes = will work which can be talked about when the time comes.

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Just cut off corporate subsidies = replace with corporations standing on their own two feet = a novel idea

 

Reduce trillions in war spending = bring those dollars home to cover cost on all in America = sensible investment in Americans

 

 

 

Just take existing tax dollars from a variety of sources and don't raise taxes = will work which can be talked about when the time comes.

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On 3/16/2019 at 12:04 AM, merrill said:

I am a republican by nature however the party has been a takeover victim by the Fascist Libertarian Fundamentalist group. Most republicans don't seem to care.

 

 nationalization of the energy industry, public ownership of banks, telephone, electric, health insurance and drug companies WOULD NOT be a bad idea as owners would be the users and users would be the managers.

 

And take a look at these items: People need these items and all of these receive large tax dollar subsidies and taxpayer bailouts. So it seems nationalization has taken place therefore these tenants should be evicted immediately and all be managed without CEO's and BOD's.

 

Medicare for All will provide money for services 24/7 no matter what.....unlike the most current model.

 

No one will need to make payments = great use of tax dollars. best insurance ever.

 

 

 

The U.S. health insurance system is typically characterized as a largely private-sector system, so it may come as a surprise that more than 60% of the $4 trillion annual U.S. health care bill is paid through taxes, according to an analysis.

 

Tax dollars pay for Medicare and Medicaid, for the Veterans Administration and the Indian Health Service. Tax dollars pay for health coverage for federal, state, and municipal government employees and their families, as well as for many employees of private companies working on government contracts.

 

Less visible but no less important, the tax deduction for employer-paid health insurance, along with other health care-related tax deductions, also represents a form of government spending on health care.

 

It makes little difference whether the government gives taxpayers (or their employers) a deduction for their health care spending, on the one hand, or collects their taxes then pays for their health care, either directly or via a voucher, on the other.

 

Moreover, tax dollars also pay for critical elements of the health care system apart from direct care—Medicare funds much of the expensive equipment hospitals use, for instance, along with all medical residencies.

 

Single Payer brings all costs under one umbrella thus demonstrating smart fiscal responsibility and efficient use of OUR tax dollars for OUR deserved benefit. 

 

Healthcare Reform Report Card

 

Let's Compare:

Single-Payer (HR 676 and S 703)  Expanded Medicare for All  Vs.  Proposed Healthcare “Private insurance with Public Option”

 

http://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

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$32.6 TRILLION Dollars for 10 years is less than the government is paying out NOW for a small part of the population by a few trillion tax dollars.

 

Single Payer is no entitlement nor is it free ...... conservatives are reckless thinkers and have no respect for tax dollars. Either reckless or stupid and most likely are not paying for their own insurance = mooching off the employers.

 

Single Payer provides full coverage no matter what no deductible and no copays ........... employed or not and no matter where families live. The lions share of the population does not have full coverage as we speak in addition to paying deductibles and co pays.

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On 3/16/2019 at 12:04 AM, merrill said:

I am a republican by nature however the party has been a takeover victim by the Fascist Libertarian Fundamentalist group. Most republicans don't seem to care.

 

 nationalization of the energy industry, public ownership of banks, telephone, electric, health insurance and drug companies WOULD NOT be a bad idea as owners would be the users and users would be the managers.

 

And take a look at these items: People need these items and all of these receive large tax dollar subsidies and taxpayer bailouts. So it seems nationalization has taken place therefore these tenants should be evicted immediately and all be managed without CEO's and BOD's.

 

Medicare for All will provide money for services 24/7 no matter what.....unlike the most current model.

 

No one will need to make payments = great use of tax dollars. best insurance ever.

 

 

Also more healthy Americans = a better tax base.

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On 9/20/2019 at 3:30 PM, merrill said:

Eliminating all of the below from the medical insurance industry will reduce costs significantly annually?

 

* corp jets

• its bureaucracy

  profits

  high corporate salaries

  advertising

*  over charges

  sales commissions

• Shareholders CERTAINLY increases the cost of insurance

• Special  interest campaign dollars

* Golden parachutes

* Politicians as shareholders

 

In general eliminates reckless spending of YOUR health care dollars

 

* Eliminates Politicians as shareholders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

Eliminates Insurers Wrongfully Charging Consumers Billions http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

*Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0IQKZLHHh&C

 

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On 3/13/2020 at 12:30 PM, merrill said:

 

bumped, errr... bounced?

 

Yes, you were, Comrade.

 

Government Health and Welfare - is for the Helpless... not the Clueless.

 

 

- Adult AMERICA -

 

"You have the Unalienable Right to Fail,

...and Start Anew.

 

You have the Unalienable Right to Starve to Death,

(if you don't Freeze to Death in Winter first)

...if that is Your Free Will,

...and the Product of Your Labor."

 

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Like Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, I agree with having universal health care.  After all, if it is good enough for Congress then it is good enough for all Americans to have.  Since Americans pay for Israel's health care for that country's citizens then it follows that we can pay for each other's care as well.  As for cost, society's cost in terms of dead bodies resulting from lack of care is a blood tax that is worse than anything.

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On 5/10/2020 at 8:50 AM, manhattantransfer said:

Like Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, I agree with having universal health care.  After all, if it is good enough for Congress then it is good enough for all Americans to have.  Since Americans pay for Israel's health care for that country's citizens then it follows that we can pay for each other's care as well.  As for cost, society's cost in terms of dead bodies resulting from lack of care is a blood tax that is worse than anything.

 

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/484301-22-studies-agree-medicare-for-all-saves-money

 

As for the point of it being cheaper than the article above agrees with that statement. 

 

Medicare for All is cheaper and provides the most extensive and comprehensive care imaginable.

 

Let's hope that we can get more traction on the bill and get it passed.

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On 9/15/2019 at 7:52 AM, SBED said:

Do you mind paying 30% income tax? How about a VAT of 20%.

Where is the money going to come from to pay for this insurance?
 

According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal government took in a bit under $3.3 trillion in revenue in 2016.

Estimates from various sources say that the Medicare for all will cost somewhere between $2.4 to $2.8 trillion a year.

Seeing that we are already running on deficit, DOUBLING your existing taxes will barely cover the cost of Medicare for all.

 

Exactly where did the 30% come from. We already pay more per person then any country in the free world. All of whom have UHC

 

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