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3 minutes ago, Chiseler said:

socialism and a leftist dictator 

Sanctions.....Exxon needs that goddam oil asap....lol

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Just now, CrimeaRiver said:

 

Wow...so the real problem is US sanctions. 

 

Maybe we should stop killing them and starving them.  Seems was ok in 2017?  Right?  lol

 

Wow Crimea... I guess you AREN'T like the others.

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Just now, CrimeaRiver said:

 

Wow...so the real problem is US sanctions. 

 

Maybe we should stop killing them and starving them.  Seems was ok in 2017?  Right?  lol

they did this to themselves.

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Just now, CrimeaRiver said:

Sanctions.....Exxon needs that goddam oil asap....lol

they dont need their kind of unrefined oil

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2 minutes ago, Chiseler said:

they did this to themselves.

Sanctions.....medical supply blockades.....food blockades.  Please read more

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1 minute ago, CrimeaRiver said:

Sanctions.....medical supply blockades.....food blockades.  Please read more

no, socialism please read anything. 

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6 minutes ago, CrimeaRiver said:

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lol so the usa is the only country who buys oil?  and venezuela has all this oil that everyone wants but wont buy it for no reason? 

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LITERALLY NOBODY IS TRYING TO TURN THE USA INTO VENEZUELA.

Yes you are, Socialist liar.

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2 hours ago, guilluamezenz said:

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Just a decade ago, “socialism” was a dirty word in American politics. Debates over its merits were mostly limited to obscure blogs, niche magazines and political parties on the other side of the Atlantic. But more recently Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a handful of other politicians have breathed new life into the label, injecting a radical alternate vision for the U.S. economy into the mainstream political debate. Ahead of the midterms, politicians like Ocasio-Cortez, Michigan’s Rashida Tlaib, and Kansas’ James Thompson have proudly held up their endorsements from Democratic Socialists of America, the country’s largest socialist group, whose numbers have swelled since Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign.

 

Just a decade ago, “socialism” was a dirty word in American politics. Debates over its merits were mostly limited to obscure blogs, niche magazines and political parties on the other side of the Atlantic. But more recently Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a handful of other politicians have breathed new life into the label, injecting a radical alternate vision for the U.S. economy into the mainstream political debate. Ahead of the midterms, politicians like Ocasio-Cortez, Michigan’s Rashida Tlaib, and Kansas’ James Thompson have proudly held up their endorsements from Democratic Socialists of America, the country’s largest socialist group, whose numbers have swelled since Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign.Related image

If it’s good enough for the Nordics, it’s good enough for us.
Matthew Bruenig is the founder of the People’s Policy Project, a progressive think tank.

One way to implement socialism in the United States would be to copy many of the economic institutions found in the Nordic countries of Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway. These countries, which consistently rank near the top of the world in happiness, human development and overall well-being, have highly organized labor markets, universal welfare states and relatively high levels of public ownership of capital.

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/03/what-would-a-socialist-america-look-like-219626

 

 

 

You want America to look like the Nordic Countries 

 

okay

 

So first we ship out Economic migrants as Sweden, and Denmark is doing, or we can adopt what Finland is doing and sending money to those countries allowing their citizens to stay.

 

then we can make all insurance companies " profit non profit" like they have in the Nordic countries

 

then we can raise everyone taxes who works but keep the taxes for capital gains and capital assets the same as they do in Denmark and Norway, so business people get richer and the workers are just eking out a living.

 

cities like Stockholm and copenhagen which have high property value because real estate ownership is for those who earn serious money and apartment building are for workers, that will solve the real estate problems right?

 

lets take all the guns away from law abiding citizens, of course I like to know how are you going to take the guns away from the criminals, cartel, gang bangers and organized crime , NYC has some of the strictest gun laws and just yesterday Gambino boss Frank Cali was gunned down

 

by the way , the nordic countries dont have the same gang problem as us.

 

so what would it look like socialism in America, a cross between Venezuela  and south africa, it certain wont look like Canada as you think 

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Venezuela is not socialist.

 

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A socialist country is Singapore.

 

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How Capitalist Is Singapore Really?

The Singaporean state owns 90 percent of the country’s land. Over 80 percent of Singapore’s population lives in housing constructed by the country’s public housing agency HDB. The Singaporean state is largest shareholder of more than a third of the country’s publicly-traded companies, and build out a sovereign wealth fund that holds tens of trillions of dollars of corporate assets.

Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t generally associate state ownership of the means of production with capitalism. One way to see whether libertarians or conservatives actually think Singapore’s system is uber-capitalistic is to imagine how they would respond to someone who ran a campaign in the US aimed at bringing the country up to the Singaporean ideal.

In this campaign, the candidate would say that the state should expropriate nearly all of the land in the country, build virtually all of the housing in the country, move almost everyone into public housing leaseholds, become the largest shareholder of more than a third of the country’s publicly-traded companies (weighted by market capitalization), and build out a sovereign wealth fund that holds tens of trillions of dollars of corporate assets. Would this campaign meet with a warm libertarian embrace or perhaps be derided as a bit socialistic?
  https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2018/03/09/how-capitalist-is-singapore-really/

 

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15 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

You want America to look like the Nordic Countries 

 

okay

 

So first we ship out Economic migrants as Sweden, and Denmark is doing, or we can adopt what Finland is doing and sending money to those countries allowing their citizens to stay.

 

then we can make all insurance companies " profit non profit" like they have in the Nordic countries

 

then we can raise everyone taxes who works but keep the taxes for capital gains and capital assets the same as they do in Denmark and Norway, so business people get richer and the workers are just eking out a living.

 

cities like Stockholm and copenhagen which have high property value because real estate ownership is for those who earn serious money and apartment building are for workers, that will solve the real estate problems right?

 

lets take all the guns away from law abiding citizens, of course I like to know how are you going to take the guns away from the criminals, cartel, gang bangers and organized crime , NYC has some of the strictest gun laws and just yesterday Gambino boss Frank Cali was gunned down

 

by the way , the nordic countries dont have the same gang problem as us.

 

so what would it look like socialism in America, a cross between Venezuela  and south africa, it certain wont look like Canada as you think 

 

Dumbie the baloney salesman!

 

Venezuela and south africa are two of the least socialistic places on the planet, you propagandist tard!

 

And banning guns is not an attribute of socialism; it's an artifact of authoritarianism.

 

And shipping migrants + raising taxes in no way translates to economic conditions in venezuela or else nordic countries would be venezuela.

 

Making a fool of yourself there dumbie.

 

Nordic countries top the list in: democracy, freedom, happiness, government spending, intelligence, and any other metric you can conceive.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report#2018_World_Happiness_Report

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world-2018-table-country-scores

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Democracy_Index_by_country_2018

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Hugo_Chávez_administration

 

From his election in 1998 until his death in March 2013, the administration of the late Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez proposed and enacted economic policies known as the Bolivarian Revolution.

In the early 2000s when oil prices soared and offered Chavez funds not seen since the beginning of Venezuela's economic collapse in the 1980s, Chávez's government became "semi-authoritarian and hyper-populist" and consolidated its power over the economy in order to gain control of large amounts of resources.[1][2] Domestically, Chavez used such oil funds for populist policies, creating the "Bolivarian Missions", aimed at providing public services to improve economic, cultural, and social conditions.[1][3] Such policies included redistribution of wealth, land reform, and democratization of economic activity via workplace self-management and creation of worker-owned cooperatives.[3]Internationally, the Chávez administration used oil production to increase autonomy from United States and European governments and used oil funds to promote economic and political integration with other Latin American nations.[3]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Revolution

 

The Bolivarian Revolution is a political process in Venezuela that was led by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, the founder of the Fifth Republic Movement and later the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV). The Bolivarian Revolution is named after Simón Bolívar, an early 19th-century Venezuelan and Latin Americanrevolutionary leader, prominent in the Spanish American wars of independence in achieving the independence of most of northern South America from Spanish rule. According to Chávez and other supporters, the Bolivarian Revolution seeks to build an inter-American coalition to implement Bolivarianism, nationalism and a state-led economy.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Socialist_Party_of_Venezuela

 

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22 minutes ago, Bluenami said:

Dumbie the baloney salesman!

 

Venezuela and south africa are two of the least socialistic places on the planet, you propagandist tard!

 

And banning guns is not an attribute of socialism; it's an artifact of authoritarianism.

 

And shipping migrants + raising taxes in no way translates to economic conditions in venezuela or else nordic countries would be venezuela.

 

Making a fool of yourself there dumbie.

 

Nordic countries top the list in: democracy, freedom, happiness, government spending, intelligence, and any other metric you can conceive.

 

 

dummy, He wants America to look like the Nordic country

 

try reading a bit slower next time

 

The nordic countries are full of drunks too, you want that here dummy?

 

happiest country my ass.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, chairmanOFTB said:

 

 

dummy, He wants America to look like the Nordic country

 

try reading a bit slower next time

 

The nordic countries are full of drunks too, you want that here dummy?

 

happiest country my ass.

 

 

 

What part of this are you having trouble with?

 

Happiness

 

1 23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 7.632 1.305 1.592 0.874 0.681 0.192 0.393
2 21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 7.594 1.456 1.582 0.861 0.686 0.286 0.340
3 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 7.555 1.351 1.590 0.868 0.683 0.284 0.408
4 21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 7.495 1.343 1.644 0.914 0.677 0.353 0.138
5 16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 7.487 1.420 1.549 0.927 0.660 0.256 0.357
6 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 7.441 1.361 1.488 0.878 0.638 0.333 0.295
7 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 7.328 1.330 1.532 0.896 0.653 0.321 0.291
8 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 7.324 1.268 1.601 0.876 0.669 0.365 0.389
9 23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 7.314 1.355 1.501 0.913 0.659 0.285 0.383
10 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 7.272 1.340 1.573 0.910 0.647 0.361 0.302
11 21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 7.190 1.244 1.433 0.888 0.464 0.262 0.082
12 23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 7.139 1.341 1.504 0.891 0.617 0.242 0.224
13 23px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica.svg.png Costa Rica 7.072 1.010 1.459 0.817 0.632 0.143 0.101
14 23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 6.977 1.448 1.583 0.876 0.614 0.307 0.306
15 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 6.965 1.340 1.474 0.861 0.586 0.273 0.280
16 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 6.927 1.324 1.483 0.894 0.583 0.188 0.240
17 23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 6.910 1.576 1.520 0.896 0.632 0.196 0.321
18 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 6.886 1.398 1.471 0.819 0.547 0.291 0.133

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1 minute ago, Bluenami said:

 

What part of this are you having trouble with?

 

Happiness

 

1 23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 7.632 1.305 1.592 0.874 0.681 0.192 0.393
2 21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 7.594 1.456 1.582 0.861 0.686 0.286 0.340
3 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 7.555 1.351 1.590 0.868 0.683 0.284 0.408
4 21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 7.495 1.343 1.644 0.914 0.677 0.353 0.138
5 16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 7.487 1.420 1.549 0.927 0.660 0.256 0.357
6 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 7.441 1.361 1.488 0.878 0.638 0.333 0.295
7 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 7.328 1.330 1.532 0.896 0.653 0.321 0.291
8 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 7.324 1.268 1.601 0.876 0.669 0.365 0.389
9 23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 7.314 1.355 1.501 0.913 0.659 0.285 0.383
10 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 7.272 1.340 1.573 0.910 0.647 0.361 0.302
11 21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 7.190 1.244 1.433 0.888 0.464 0.262 0.082
12 23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 7.139 1.341 1.504 0.891 0.617 0.242 0.224
13 23px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica.svg.png Costa Rica 7.072 1.010 1.459 0.817 0.632 0.143 0.101
14 23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 6.977 1.448 1.583 0.876 0.614 0.307 0.306
15 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 6.965 1.340 1.474 0.861 0.586 0.273 0.280
16 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 6.927 1.324 1.483 0.894 0.583 0.188 0.240
17 23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 6.910 1.576 1.520 0.896 0.632 0.196 0.321
18 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 6.886 1.398 1.471 0.819 0.547 0.291 0.133

What is one unit of happiness?

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5 minutes ago, Chiseler said:

What is one unit of happiness?

 

Data is collected from people in over 150 countries. Each variable measured reveals a populated-weighted average score on a scale running from 0 to 10 that is tracked over time and compared against other countries. These variables currently include: real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption. Each country is also compared against a hypothetical nation called Dystopia. Dystopia represents the lowest national averages for each key variable and is, along with residual error, used as a regression benchmark.

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3 minutes ago, Bluenami said:

 

What part of this are you having trouble with?

 

Happiness

 

1 23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 7.632 1.305 1.592 0.874 0.681 0.192 0.393
2 21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 7.594 1.456 1.582 0.861 0.686 0.286 0.340
3 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 7.555 1.351 1.590 0.868 0.683 0.284 0.408
4 21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 7.495 1.343 1.644 0.914 0.677 0.353 0.138
5 16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 7.487 1.420 1.549 0.927 0.660 0.256 0.357
6 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 7.441 1.361 1.488 0.878 0.638 0.333 0.295
7 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 7.328 1.330 1.532 0.896 0.653 0.321 0.291
8 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 7.324 1.268 1.601 0.876 0.669 0.365 0.389
9 23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 7.314 1.355 1.501 0.913 0.659 0.285 0.383
10 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 7.272 1.340 1.573 0.910 0.647 0.361 0.302
11 21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 7.190 1.244 1.433 0.888 0.464 0.262 0.082
12 23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 7.139 1.341 1.504 0.891 0.617 0.242 0.224
13 23px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica.svg.png Costa Rica 7.072 1.010 1.459 0.817 0.632 0.143 0.101
14 23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 6.977 1.448 1.583 0.876 0.614 0.307 0.306
15 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 6.965 1.340 1.474 0.861 0.586 0.273 0.280
16 23px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png Belgium 6.927 1.324 1.483 0.894 0.583 0.188 0.240
17 23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 6.910 1.576 1.520 0.896 0.632 0.196 0.321
18 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 6.886 1.398 1.471 0.819 0.547 0.291 0.133

 

anything that comes out of  your mouth

 

You regurgitate propaganda,  I tend to look for evidence backing up claims, Ive been to denmark and asked a few of the locals and they laugh about that report.

what because you think that because they practice the art of hygge is all good?

 

Denmark is the cancer capital of the world

they have the highest percentage of Drunks in the Nordic country

sure they work 28 hours a week

but they also rank fourth in the world when it comes to use of antidepressants

 

does not appear  too happy to me, and the who is behind the list making the nordic countries the happiest in the world?

 

By the way why  is when the Folks from nordic countries leaves the nordic countries and live in America, Canada, Australia most don't want to go back to the Nordic countries to live

 

 

 

 

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Democracy

 

1 21px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png Norway 9.87 10.00 9.64 10.00 10.00 9.71 Full democracy
2 21px-Flag_of_Iceland.svg.png Iceland 9.58 10.00 9.29 8.89 10.00 9.71 Full democracy
3 23px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png Sweden 9.39 9.58 9.64 8.33 10.00 9.41 Full democracy
4 23px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png New Zealand 9.26 10.00 9.29 8.89 8.13 10.00 Full democracy
5 20px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png Denmark 9.22 10.00 9.29 8.33 9.38 9.12 Full democracy
=6 23px-Flag_of_Ireland.svg.png Ireland 9.15 9.58 7.86 8.33 10.00 10.00 Full democracy
23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 9.15 9.58 9.64 7.78 8.75 10.00 Full democracy
8 23px-Flag_of_Finland.svg.png Finland 9.14 10.00 8.93 8.33 8.75 9.71 Full democracy
9 23px-Flag_of_Australia_%28converted%29.s Australia 9.09 10.00 8.93 7.78 8.75 10.00 Full democracy
10 16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png  Switzerland 9.03 9.58 9.29 7.78 9.38 9.12 Full democracy
11 23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png Netherlands 8.89 9.58 9.29 8.33 8.13 9.12 Full democracy
12 23px-Flag_of_Luxembourg.svg.png Luxembourg 8.81 10.00 8.93 6.67 8.75 9.71 Full democracy
13 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 8.68 9.58 8.57 8.33 7.50 9.41 Full democracy
14 23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png United Kingdom 8.53 9.58 7.50 8.33 8.13 9.12 Full democracy
15 23px-Flag_of_Uruguay.svg.png Uruguay 8.38 10.00 8.57 6.11 7.50 9.71 Full democracy
16 23px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png Austria 8.29 9.58 7.86 8.33 6.88 8.82 Full democracy
17 23px-Flag_of_Mauritius.svg.png Mauritius 8.22 9.17 8.21 5.56 8.75 9.41 Full democracy
18 23px-Flag_of_Malta.svg.png Malta 8.21 9.17 8.21 6.11 8.75 8.82 Full democracy
19 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain 8.08 9.17 7.14 7.78 7.50 8.82 Full democracy
20 23px-Flag_of_Costa_Rica.svg.png Costa Rica 8.07 9.58 7.50 6.67 7.50 9.12 Full democracy
21 23px-Flag_of_South_Korea.svg.png South Korea 8.00 9.17 7.86 7.22 7.50 8.24 Flawed democracy[a]
22 23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 7.99 8.75 8.21 6.67 7.50 8.82 Flawed democracy
=23 23px-Flag_of_Chile.svg.png Chile 7.97 9.58 8.57 4.44 8.13 9.12 Flawed democracy
23px-Flag_of_Estonia.svg.png Estonia 7.97 9.58 8.21 6.67 6.88 8.53 Flawed democracy
25 23px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png United States 7.96 9.17 7.14 7.78 7.50 8.24 Flawed democracy

 

 

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