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***Bombshell Report***Bernie Sanders in the 1970s urged nationalization of most major industries (CNN)

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5 minutes ago, splunch said:

I think the goal, like that of the sok population in general, is just to isolate and piss people off, drive them into camps and then try to manipulate them from there, fragment public opinion in general.  Divided we fall.

 

That's why they work so relentlessly to marginalize Elizabeth Warren.  She isn't about pissing everybody off, she wants rational and popular reforms to markets and healthcare that most people agree with (they just do).  She's the anti-troll.  There is nothing for them to grab onto except Trump calling her Pocahontas.  They may as well be demanding her birth certificate.

I definitely agree, splunch.  :)  I think LIz Warren is excellent.   I would have no problem voting for her if she is nominated.   She and Bernie are very similar on this issues.

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1 minute ago, SpyCar said:

 

All Democrats want a Big Tent. Me included.

 

LBJ once said it is better to have people on the inside of the tent pissing out than to have them outside pissing in.

 

What he didn't anticipate was people like you who come inside and piss in.

 

YOU are an enemy of my party. YOUR socialist ideology is incompatible with liberalism and you expect that the Democrats are going to bend to your lunatic fringe. 

 

News to YOU: It ain't gonna happen.

 

So you can vote for a liberal progressive Democrat or you can help Trump, like you did last time. 

 

I have no hope you will change. YOU are an azzhole.

 

Bill

You have an odd way of bringing people into your tent, "Bill".  It seems a lot like the approach I might use to, oh, I dunno...drive people out of the tent.  Odd.

 

Bernie's use of the term "socialism" aside, the fact is his agenda isn't going to become law if he wins, and even if he were President and 50 progressive Democrats took seats in the Senate and House, he wouldn't be capable of transforming America in anything like the sweeping evil way you like to sell online.  Worst case scenario, progress on cleaning up Wall Street and moving towards a better healthcare system, while possibly stepping back from a war zone or two, is on the table.  

 

Just what exactly do you think somebody like Bernie would do?  No, not "he's a dang socialist die Bernie!!!"  What EXACTLY do you think a Bernie POTUS would do that would be so terrible that you-- supposedly a Democrat --would go to war and incite a split among Democrats that would unquestionably lead to 4 more years of Trump if Bernie emerges as the front-runner in the primary?

 

Exactly.

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I am a republican by nature however the party has been a takeover victim by the Fascist Libertarian Fundamentalist group. Most republicans don't seem to care.

 

 nationalization of the energy industry, public ownership of banks, telephone, electric, and drug companies WOULD NOT be a bad idea as 

owners would be the users and users would be the managers.

 

And take a look at these items: People need these items and all of these receive large tax dollar subsidies and taxpayer bailouts. So it seems nationalization has taken place therefore

these tenants should be evicted immediately and all be managed without CEO's and BOD's.

 

Socialism is an economic theory of social organization that believes that the means of making, moving, and trading wealth should be owned or controlled by the community as a whole.

 

Socialism produces a surge of economic growth steadily thus job growth thus sensible management of budgets INSTEAD of reckless destructive economic behavior that which conservatives seem to thrive at great expense to the middle class revenue producing machine.

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15 minutes ago, splunch said:

You have an odd way of bringing people into your tent, "Bill".  It seems a lot like the approach I might use to, oh, I dunno...drive people out of the tent.  Odd.

 

Bernie's use of the term "socialism" aside, the fact is his agenda isn't going to become law if he wins, and even if he were President and 50 progressive Democrats took seats in the Senate and House, he wouldn't be capable of transforming America in anything like the sweeping evil way you like to sell online.  Worst case scenario, progress on cleaning up Wall Street and moving towards a better healthcare system, while possibly stepping back from a war zone or two, is on the table.  

 

Just what exactly do you think somebody like Bernie would do?  No, not "he's a dang socialist die Bernie!!!"  What EXACTLY do you think a Bernie POTUS would do that would be so terrible that you-- supposedly a Democrat --would go to war and incite a split among Democrats that would unquestionably lead to 4 more years of Trump if Bernie emerges as the front-runner in the primary?

 

Exactly.

 

You are a Jonny-come-lately Splunch. I tried, again and again, to cool out the attacks on my party's presumptive nominee, especially after BS was mathematically eliminated. I urged people like RR to join the Democratic coalition. I was told to f*ck off.

 

Most of the idiots in the LO room at the time did not vote, voted Green, or wrote in BS.

 

I'm done trying to convince azzholes not to help re-elect Trump. Either they understand the consequences and act to stop him or they do what they did the last time. Out of my hands.

 

I am not willing to support a guy with dictatorial tendencies who avows socialist expropriation of property without compensation because he'd be "limited" in his ambitions by the Constitution and our political institutions. We already have a dictator wanna-be provoking Constitutional crises. I have no desire for Democrats to mirror the extremism of today's Republican party.

 

Don't dare question my Democratic Party bona fides. I've voted in every election in which I've been eligible and always vote Democrat. 

 

BS will never be the nominee of our party. He isn't even a member of our party. His aim is to undermine and subvert the Democratic Party and attempt to turn it into a Democratic Socialist party. Elizabeth Warren is run in large measure to stop BS. She is emphatic in declaring: "I am not a Democratic Socialist." The lunatic fringe will not prevail.

 

Bill

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Newsflash: Bernie Sanders hold a rally at 100-year-old black church in North Carolina.

 

1600 people show up. 40 of whom are black. LOL.

 

African Americans are not going to forget BS calling their civil rights struggles "identity politics" or how he comforted racist votes who were uncomfortable voting for a black man for Governor in Florida.

 

Give it up Berners. 

 

Bill

 

 

 

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