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The Green New Deal would collapse our country with unimaginable costs.

 

"The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) released a little-noticed report last week that confirms what Obamacare critics said from Day One: the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates for the cost and impact of the Affordable Care Act were off by enormous margins."

"American voters should carefully consider this object lesson when evaluating all socialist promises. If socialists couldn’t predict the effect of Obamacare accurately, how can anyone trust their predictions for vastly larger and more complex government takeovers like “Medicare for All” or the “Green New Deal?”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2019/02/24/hayward-cbos-obamacare-failure-devastating-blow-socialism/

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5 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

Will AOC go down in history fro destroying the Amazon 25,000 jobs in NYC?

 

hardly getting any press.  

She already has...AOC will be known as the "Attack of the Duffus".  

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Easy..

Just tax people another $32 trillion...

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Z09 said:

Easy..

Just tax people another $32 trillion...

 

 

$38 Trillion.

 

The total is $40 Trillion and AOC could only explain where $2 Trillion will come from.

 

And this is all before the government gets their hands on it.

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1 minute ago, personreal said:

$38 Trillion.

 

The total is $40 Trillion and AOC could only explain where $2 Trillion will come from.

 

And this is all before the government gets their hands on it.

And Warren needs money for her reparations.

And Sanders needs money for free college..

 

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25 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

Will AOC go down in history fro destroying the Amazon 25,000 jobs in NYC?

 

hardly getting any press.  

 

Will Google also creating a new campus in NYC that will create thousands of jobs without asking for any tax incentives be discussed?

 

While Amazon walked away from $3 billion in tax incentives that it's workers and the tax payers of New York would have made up for Google didn't ask for a dime of tax handouts. 

 

 

 

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DEC. 18, 2018

Google to Build $1 Billion NYC Campus, No Tax Incentives Required

 

There’s about to be a lot more Google in New York City, with the company announcing today it plans to spend $1 billion to build a new campus near the Hudson River. Google nabbed the nearby Chelsea Market building for $2.4 billion this past February. The new campus, expected to be about 1.7 million square feet, will expand out along Hudson and Washington Streets, and the tech giant plans to bring 7,000 additional employees to New

 

York, making the city the center of its sales operations. All told, Google would own about 7 million square feet of real estate in New York.

Google’s investment stands in stark contrast to Amazon’s own satellite headquarters, slated to be built in Long Island City, thanks to roughly $3 billion in tax incentives, and which will occupy roughly 8 million square feet.

 

Google hasn’t passed up the chance to tweak Amazon during a cycle of bad publicity for the e-commerce giant. “[Amazon is] running their own play and it’s a very different play than ours,” said William Floyd, the head of external affairs for Google, speaking to the New York Times last week. “We’ve been growing steadily for the past 18 years without heralding trumpets, or asking for support from the government. We’ve done it by the dint of our own work.”

 

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/google-to-invest-usd1-billion-in-nyc-no-tax-incentives-needed.html

 

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4 minutes ago, Z09 said:

And Warren needs money for her reparations.

And Sanders needs money for free college..

 

And the government will manage all of it...

 

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3 minutes ago, think said:

tax handouts. 

 

 

It wasn’t a handout!

 

why do leftist not understand this?

 

4 minutes ago, think said:

Will Google also creating a new campus in NYC that will create thousands of jobs 

 

 

It wasnt either/ or.   The loss of 25,000 jobs is huge.    The Google complex does not make up for this loss.  

 

You can’t rationalize this.  You can’t excuse it. 

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3 minutes ago, personreal said:

And the government will manage all of it...

 

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What is that gif?

 

a breadline?

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38 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

Will AOC go down in history fro destroying the Amazon 25,000 jobs in NYC?

 

hardly getting any press.  

Because giving the worlds richest man 3 billion instead of investing in people is somehow bad in looneyville

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Just now, harryramar said:

Because giving the worlds richest man 3 billion instead of investing in people is somehow bad in looneyville

 

 

You idiot.  No one was giving him anything.  

 

Libs are fukcing retarded.  

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2 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

It wasn’t a handout!

 

why do leftist not understand this?

 

 

 

It wasnt either/ or.   The loss of 25,000 jobs is huge.    The Google complex does not make up for this loss.  

 

You can’t rationalize this.  You can’t excuse it. 

But there is full employment and no workers to fill those jobs according to the trump cult.

should they  hire illegals like those republicans in Iowa 😁

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1 minute ago, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

You idiot.  No one was giving him anything.  

 

Libs are fukcing retarded.  

He didn’t demand a tax break to locate in nyc???

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7 minutes ago, think said:

 

Will Google also creating a new campus in NYC that will create thousands of jobs without asking for any tax incentives be discussed?

 

While Amazon walked away from $3 billion in tax incentives that it's workers and the tax payers of New York would have made up for Google didn't ask for a dime of tax handouts. 

 

 

 

 

Will it be an expansion of Google's Internet Suppression Policies And Technology?  

 

"GISPAT"

 

They thought it was best to change the spelling of Gestapo.  

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5 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

What is that gif?

 

a breadline?

Food distribution and containment center.

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Just now, EltonJohnson said:

 

 

It wasn’t a handout!

 

why do leftist not understand this?

 

 

 

It wasnt either/ or.   The loss of 25,000 jobs is huge.    The Google complex does not make up for this loss.  

 

You can’t rationalize this.  You can’t excuse it. 

 

Can you understand that tax incentives represent tax revenue that will be lost and needed to cover an increase in expenses that will occur. Where do you think current tax revenue goes to? If Amazon isn't paying those taxes the rest of the businesses are then somebody has to make up for that shortfall. Obviously it will be the tax payers.

 

So Google and other businesses are providing the same jobs without the tax burden to the system. Amazon doesn't need the tax cuts. 

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5 minutes ago, harryramar said:

Because giving the worlds richest man 3 billion instead of investing in people is somehow bad in looneyville

They were investing in people Gomer...both Amazon and NY, until AOC came along that is.

 

Feel free to keep jerking yer knee.  :)

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4 minutes ago, personreal said:

Will it be an expansion of Google's Internet Suppression Policies And Technology?  

 

"GISPAT"

 

They thought it was best to change the spelling of Gestapo.  

 

We can discuss how both Amazon and Google operate but that has nothing to with the tax incentives does it. 

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2 minutes ago, think said:

 

Can you understand that tax incentives represent tax revenue that will be lost and needed to cover an increase in expenses that will occur. Where do you think current tax revenue goes to? If Amazon isn't paying those taxes the rest of the businesses are then somebody has to make up for that shortfall. Obviously it will be the tax payers.

 

So Google and other businesses are providing the same jobs without the tax burden to the system. Amazon doesn't need the tax cuts. 

How about the taxes they would have generated over the years?

 

It's called investment in the future dink.

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hey heres the P man he's from the sick state of montanninna where the men would rather fukk goats than their women... they have it right though... DID YOU EVER SEE THE MONTAIANNIANN WOMEN HOLY FUKK THEIR BEASTS. and they smell like skunk spray. oh god it's a horrible stink. the people over in washington complain about the smell drifting over.... doctors when 

delivering babies do it with remote robots from a different state...I think we need to get rid of montaniannina pay mexico to take it...it would be worth it...

 

 

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1 minute ago, think said:

 

We can discuss the how both Amazon and Google operate but that has nothing to with the tax incentives does it. 

I'm not aware that Amazon has a way of suppressing free speech like Google does.  

 

BTW...

 

2/12/2019

 

"A solid majority of New York state voters support the $3 billion deal to bring Amazon to Queens — especially minorities, according to a poll released Tuesday."

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Just now, personreal said:

How about the taxes they would have generated over the years?

 

It's called investment in the future dink.

 

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Tax Incentives Often Don’t Work in Long Run

I find it discouraging that mayors and civic boosters so often disregard the evidence and join the rush to throw subsidies at companies looking to locate a facility.

Oct. 10, 2017 12:27 p.m. ET
 

I am delighted to see San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo’s “Why I’m Not Bidding for Amazon’s HQ” (op-ed, Oct. 5). As an economist studying labor and economic development, I find it discouraging that mayors and civic boosters so often disregard the evidence and join the rush to throw subsidies at companies looking to locate a facility. Mr. Liccardo breaks away from the herd and points out what economists who study this know: The factors that really make a difference in a decision like Amazon’s are the skill base of the workforce and the ecosystem of existing businesses. I would add that all too often jobs and investments don’t...

 

 

 

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Taxpayers are right to question incentives for economic development — and not just for Amazon  

Feb 15, 2019 8:11 a.m. ET

Companies secretly renegotiate deals so they don’t have to deliver the jobs first promised

 

New York offered Amazon close to $3 billion to build a “second” headquarters in Long Island City on the promise of 25,000 jobs.

Since the deal was joyfully announced in November, however, many local residents and some politicians in the area have been questioning whether it’s worth it, both in terms of the price tag and the impact on housing and traffic congestion. And on Feb. 14, Amazon AMZN, +0.74%   backed out of the deal, citing political opposition to its plans.

 

The research supports those who question the wisdom of cities and statesincentivizing economic development. Studies suggest the jobs and economic gains are usually not worth the tax breaks since the majority of companies would have come even without incentives.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/taxpayers-are-right-to-question-incentives-for-economic-development-and-not-just-for-amazon-2019-02-14

 

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9 minutes ago, think said:

Can you understand that tax incentives represent tax revenue that will be lost and needed to cover an increase in expenses that will occur.

 

 

WOAH!    Do you realize  the   Hundreds of  Billions of  dollars lost?   No you don't.

 

A $3 billion  dollar incentive..   not actual cash...     just to get  TENS TO HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS IN THE FUTURE   all  lost to  idiocy

 

12 minutes ago, think said:

So Google and other businesses are providing the same jobs without the tax burden to the system.

 

 

 

 OMG..   they aren't the  same  jobs.   They are  different   jobs.      They could have had BOTH

 

YOU DON'T  UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS.

 

LIBS DO NOT GET ECONOMICS

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