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26 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

We already live in a capitalistic & socialized society.  Have been for quite a while.

 

 

24 minutes ago, jrobin15283 said:

How?

 

 

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Just now, jrobin15283 said:

Why is that statistic relevant?  Regardless of who is working and who isnt, taking money from someone without their consent is theft, which is immoral.

Bcus those are the constructs of our society.  

 

If you don’t like - shove off.   In America we (try to) take care of our own.  That, to me, is the moral thing to do.

 

You’ve simply declared yourself the  arbiter of all things moral, for the sake of discussion.

 

 

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Just now, jrock2310 said:

Bcus those are the constructs of our society.  

 

If you don’t like - shove off.   In America we (try to) take care of our own.  That, to me, is the moral thing to do.

 

You’ve simply declared yourself the  arbiter of all things moral, for the sake of discussion.

 

 

 

The virtue of selfishness. Bad philosophy from a bad philosopher.

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Just now, jrock2310 said:

Bcus those are the constructs of our society.  

 

If you don’t like - shove off.   In America we (try to) take care of our own.  That, to me, is the moral thing to do.

 

You’ve simply declared yourself the  arbiter of all things moral, for the sake of discussion.

 

 

Well theft is illegal.  Welfare is theft.  Thats it.

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14 minutes ago, leftwinger said:

 

Yes, the founder of Christianity was a critic of helping others.

Yes. The state put him to death.

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2 minutes ago, jrobin15283 said:

Well theft is illegal.  Welfare is theft.  Thats it.

No, its not.

 

Are you one of these people who thinks taxes are theft too?

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Just now, jrock2310 said:

No, its not.

 

Are one of these people who thinks taxes are theft too?

 

dumb dumb ayn rand libertarians

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34 minutes ago, jrobin15283 said:

Because i didnt want to make the title too long, this thread will cover socialism in general, welfare, and raising the minimum wage, and other mainstream democrat economic agendas.

 

Debate

Debate something you can’t be bothered to define?

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5 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

No, its not.

 

Are you one of these people who thinks taxes are theft too?

No, it depends on what the taxes are for

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Just now, jrobin15283 said:

No, it depends on what the taxes are for

I see... so its all selective.  

 

Good luck negotiating w/ the gov’t on that.

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19 minutes ago, leftwinger said:

Yes, the founder of Christianity was a critic of helping others.

 

 

5 minutes ago, kfools said:

Yes. The state put him to death.

 

.....Specifically, the back-stabbing, hypocritical-"conservatives".....

 

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2 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

I see... so its all selective.  

 

Good luck negotiating w/ the gov’t on that.

No, its quite simple.  Taxes towards public roads and the postal service and the DMV are different than taxes toward welfare.

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Just now, jrobin15283 said:

No, its quite simple.  Taxes towards public roads and the postal service and the DMV are different than taxes toward welfare.

Taxes for roads, schools, police, postal services... along w/ ALL OTHER social programs are for YOUR WELFARE TOO.

 

You just happen not to be a recipient or qualify to collect on them.  

 

Trust me bro... the life of someone on welfare isn’t as glamourus as republicans spouting off about ‘obama phones’ make it out to be.

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1 minute ago, jrock2310 said:

Taxes for roads, schools, police, postal services... along w/ ALL OTHER social programs are for YOUR WELFARE TOO.

 

You just happen not to be a recipient or qualify to collect on them.  

 

Trust me bro... the life of someone on welfare isn’t as glamourus as republicans spouting off about ‘obama phones’ make it out to be.

They are for my welfare, but they are not WELFARE.   Youre mixing the words up.

 

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11 minutes ago, Phoenix68 said:

 

 

 

.....Specifically, the back-stabbing, hypocritical-"conservatives".....

 

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Is that so?

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1 minute ago, jrobin15283 said:

They are for my welfare, but they are not WELFARE.   Youre mixing the words up.

 

 

You are mixed up. You have no idea what you're talking about. 

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3 minutes ago, jrobin15283 said:

They are for my welfare, but they are not WELFARE.   Youre mixing the words up.

 

I don’t see how.  Your welfare and my welfare are the same ... along w/ anyone else.

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10 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

I don’t see how.  Your welfare and my welfare are the same ... along w/ anyone else.

No, youre talking about general welfare, and i am talking about welfare PROGRAMS

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37 minutes ago, jrock2310 said:

No, its not.

 

Are you one of these people who thinks taxes are theft too?

I really don't get why this is so hard for you dimwitted idiots to comprehend.  Are you truly too damn retarded to see the difference between taxing someone and giving them a service in return for their money, such as military protection for example, and simply taking their money in order to hand it over to someone else?  While the act of forcing someone to buy a service may have questionable morality, at least the person gets something in return.  But the latter of these 2 things is very clearly outright theft and is therefore clearly wrong & immoral.  Period.

 

Seriously, this should be simple enough for even a dull-witted child to understand.  So why the hell can't you morons grasp it???

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1 minute ago, Nighthawk said:

I really don't get why this is so hard for you dimwitted idiots to comprehend.  Are you truly too damn retarded to see the difference between taxing someone and giving them a service in return for their money, such as military protection for example, and simply taking their money in order to hand it over to someone else?  While the act of forcing someone to buy a service may have questionable morality, at least the person gets something in return.  But the latter of these 2 things is very clearly outright theft and is therefore clearly wrong & immoral.  Period.

 

Seriously, this should be simple enough for even a dull-witted child to understand.  So why the hell can't you morons grasp it???

 

Maybe we think you're the moron.

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Just now, leftwinger said:

 

Maybe we think you're the moron.

Then is should be extremely easy for one of you idiot libs to finally prove me wrong for a change instead of always cowardly running away while I continually bump just about any thread in which I participate to deafening silence.  So what the fuck are you all waiting for?

 

Good luck.

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Just now, Nighthawk said:

Then is should be extremely easy for one of you idiot libs to finally prove me wrong for a change instead of always cowardly running away while I continually bump just about any thread in which I participate to deafening silence.  So what the fuck are you all waiting for?

 

Good luck.

 

Socialism is not welfare. Next.

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1 hour ago, leftwinger said:

 

Yes, the founder of Christianity was a critic of helping others.

I very, very clearly explained the fallacy of this to you in another thread, dumbass- Link.  What, were you too damn stupid to get it the first time, dunce?  Lol...

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