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“We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

 

Political scientist Mason B. Williams cited this cheeky but accurate comment by New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank to make a point easily lost in the new war on socialism that President Trump has launched: Socialism goes back a long way in the United States, and it has taken doses of it to keep the market system alive.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.1e161faa350f&noredirect=on

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Two different concepts of socialism:

 

"One described it as “a system of government that provides citizens with health insurance, retirement support and access to free higher education,” essentially a description of social democracy. "

 

"The other was the full Soviet dose: “a system where the government controls key parts of the economy, such as utilities, transportation and communications industries.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.1e161faa350f&noredirect=on

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6 minutes ago, leftwinger said:

“We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

 

Political scientist Mason B. Williams cited this cheeky but accurate comment by New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank to make a point easily lost in the new war on socialism that President Trump has launched: Socialism goes back a long way in the United States, and it has taken doses of it to keep the market system alive.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.1e161faa350f&noredirect=on

"new war on Socialism".....lol

 

The Elite have been at war with Socialism for over 100 years

 

Who killed Bernie....?   The 1% DNC ESTAB.....lol

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Fifty-four percent said socialism was about those public benefits, while just 43 percent picked the version that stressed government domination. 

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Oh, yes, and on those tax increases that conservatives love to hate — and associate with socialism of the creeping kind — a Fox News poll last week found that 70 percent of Americans favored raising taxes on families with incomes of over $10 million.

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Republicans support higher taxes on the super-rich, according to a Fox News survey

 

But a new Fox News poll finds that raising income taxes on ten-millionaires is a policy that enjoys broad bipartisan support among 85 percent of Democrats, 54 percent of Republicans, and 70 percent of registered voters overall. Hiking taxes on incomes over one million was almost as popular overall, with 65 percent support.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2019/01/31/republicans-support-higher-taxes-super-rich-according-fox-news-survey/?utm_term=.b3474e58b86e&noredirect=on

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3 hours ago, leftwinger said:

“We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

 

Political scientist Mason B. Williams cited this cheeky but accurate comment by New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank ... snip ...

 

Ah yes, Jerome Frank.   

 

What that Washington Post article fails to mention is that Jerome Frank said that to Fabian Socialist/communist Stuart Chase, who I’ve talked about extensively on this forum.  Remember?   You see … Jerome Frank was a Fabian Socialist talking to a Fabian Socialist.  Both were in FDR’s inner circle.  

 

And what Jerome said was a LIE … a deception in keeping with the tactics advocated by the founders of the Fabian Society.   Because Fabian Socialists of that era … of any era for that matter… have not been at all interested in saving capitalism.   And to prove that, consider that Chase said, in a book talking about how to achieve the goal of an ideal Fabian society “X” in the United States, that “This is the program of the third road. It is not an attempt to bolster up capitalism, it is frankly aimed at the destruction of capitalism, specifically in its most evil sense of ruthless expansion.  The redistribution of national income, the sequestration of excess profits, and the control of new investment, are all designed to that end. “   Furthermore, he stated that  once enough pieces of society fundamentally transformed into what he called Political System X, a Fabian Socialist system, there would be no returning to capitalism or a  free market.   

 

What you quoted, leftwinger, is nothing but a lie.   Both Frank and Chase wanted to replace capitalism with socialism … nay, communism.   It’s been the goal of Fabians for more than 120 years.   And both were perfectly positioned to work towards that end in FDR administration.  Jerome Frank became a top official in FDR’s Agricultural Adjustment Administration, one of the most influential New Deal agencies.   You see, the AAA introduced central planning to agriculture in the United States and thus was a key stone of the Fabian Society’s plan for transforming the US.   


The Department of Agriculture was a center of Fabian thinking in that administration.  Fabian Socialist/communist Rexford Guy Tugwell (who I’ve discussed at length in various threads) became FDR’s Deputy Secretary of Agriculture, just under his recommended choice of Secretary of Agriculture, Henry A. Wallace, who went on to found The United States Progressive Party in 1948 and then ran for President via it.   That party’s platform called for establishment of a national health insurance system, an expansion of the welfare system, and nationalization of the energy industry, and conciliation with the Soviet Union.  It was so far to the left that the Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate that year, but instead endorsed Wallace.     

 

Fabians were everywhere in FDRs administration.  And Fabian Socialist/communist Stuart Chase was part of a delegation that toured the Soviet Union in 1927 … with Tugwell.   Chase and Tugwell contributed chapters to the group's report, Soviet Russia in the Second Decade, that was published in 1928.  Chase wrote the chapter on Soviet central planning in that book.   And then just a few short years later he wrote a book titled “A New Deal” which discussed Political System “X”.    And then immediately after he wrote that book, he became a close confident of FDR.

 

Now Jerome Frank was recommended to his position by Fabian Socialist/communist Felix Frankfurter, who I’ve also discussed  repeatedly (to the sound of crickets) on this forum.    Are you starting to get a clue, folks, about the person leftwinger has decided to mention and quote?

 

Turned out that Frank didn’t get along with his immediate supervisor at the AAA.  His name was George N. Peek.   He wasn’t a Fabian socialist.   Frank was the infiltrator.     Tugwell didn’t like Peek either.   And soon (in 1933), the two of them conspired to get rid of Peek.  He was replaced him with Chester R. Davis, but again, Davis was a disappointment to the Fabians.   But this time it was Davis who won.    He had enough power to see that Frank was fired from the AAA.   He told Frank when he did it that “”I’ve had a chance to watch you and I think you are an outright revolutionary, whether you realize it or not”.   But Frank knew it.   

 

FDR knew it too and just moved Frank to other positions in his government.   In 1935, he appointed him as a special counsel to the Reconstruction Finance Association, another important agency.   In 1937, Roosevelt named him as a commissioner of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). He became Chairman of the SEC in 1939.    In February 1941, Roosevelt named Frank as a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.   So Frank was a Fabian socialist infiltrating the highest levels of the American government.   A wolf in sheep’s clothing.   
 

 

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14 hours ago, leftwinger said:

Fifty-four percent said socialism was about those public benefits, while just 43 percent picked the version that stressed government domination. 

70% of Americans want free shit from the government. 

That number drops to under 30%, when they find out what it actually costs them.

 

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^^^ Check out golfcunt's signature paragraph....

 

Rent free, I tell ya!  Rent free!

 

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Trump offers socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else

 

America will never be a socialist country,” Donald Trump declared in his State of the Union address. Someone should alert Trump that America is now a hotbed of socialism. But it is socialism for the rich. Everyone else is treated to harsh capitalism.

In the conservative mind, socialism means getting something for doing nothing. That pretty much describes the $21bn saved by the nation’s largest banks last year thanks to Trump’s tax cuts, some of which went into massive bonuses for bank executives. On the other hand, more than 4,000 lower-level bank employees got a big dose of harsh capitalism. They lost their jobs.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/11/trump-offers-socialism-for-the-rich-capitalism-for-everyone-else

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19 hours ago, leftwinger said:

“We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

 

Political scientist Mason B. Williams cited this cheeky but accurate comment by New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank to make a point easily lost in the new war on socialism that President Trump has launched: Socialism goes back a long way in the United States, and it has taken doses of it to keep the market system alive.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.1e161faa350f&noredirect=on

leftwinger's war on intelligence.

 

Don't worry...he's too stupid.  LOL

 

 

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Refreshing...!

 

At least they're starting to admit they want socialism.....

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46 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said:

How do you lose a war against something  that has never worked?

 

Answer:    You don't

 

Don't be so sure about that EJ.    

 

Fabian socialists have made great progress in the last 120+ years.

 

Many aspects of the US have been converted into the society Fabians invisioned.   

 

The way you lose such a war is to not recognize the enemy.

 

Unless we start focusing on the Fabians, we will eventually lose.  

 

Oh sure ... they may wreck the US and far in the future end up dangling from telephone poles.


But they will still have won against those to tried to prevent them from taking over in the first place.  

 

So your confidence is misplaced.

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Just now, BeAChooser said:

So your confidence is misplaced.

 

 

Oh I have no confidence.    I  know they are the enemy.

 

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21 hours ago, leftwinger said:

“We socialists are trying to save capitalism, and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

 

Political scientist Mason B. Williams cited this cheeky but accurate comment by New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank to make a point easily lost in the new war on socialism that President Trump has launched: Socialism goes back a long way in the United States, and it has taken doses of it to keep the market system alive.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-war-on-socialism-will-fail/2019/02/10/b6fe3a6a-2be4-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?utm_term=.1e161faa350f&noredirect=on

How is pointing out why it doesn't ever work as imagined it should call it a war?  One cannot change Eternity by defining eternal separation beyond a point of sustaining universal perpetual balancing so all things kinetically separated are eternally sorted out when adding into a constant changing total sum already arrived.

 

Now your left wing one sided interpretation of all talking points shows you attemption to silence 15 other positions of perpetually changing ancestors occupying the moment here. Dimensions of ancestry 8 great grandparents, 4 grandparents, 2 parents of the current populaiton of people that have reproduced and haven't reproduced their biological replacements maintaining the population at any relative point of interpretation past, present, future.

 

Just changing the argument about have and have nots in societal evolution discounting actual life and over estimating reality's world orders  to context over content and mind over matter matters most.

 

Socialists are the ones inventing categories of people and how they rank compared to one another birth to extinction. They tend to ignore order of arrival conception to birth now. It is this constant I developed the 0-9, 1-10, vs 0-1.

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