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Will Putin burn trump?

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Putin is not actually an ally of trump. Putin's agenda is pro-Putin, pro-Russia, anti-America and anti-west.

 

trump's appeal to Putin is only as a target to co-opt, which he did, resulting in trump always complimenting Putin, opposing sanctions, no retaliation for Russian wrongs, etc.

 

Putin has a choice coming up. As trump loses power one way or the other, will Putin want to stick the knife in further, to humiliate a US president and discredit democracy, or will he hold back, so that future targets don't expect to be betrayed by Russia?

 

Maybe Putin will try to have it both ways, leaking information to humiliate trump and the US trying to look like it's not coming from him. He's already mocking trump - issuing schedules for their meetings before trump, challenging trump's cover story on the just-cancelled meeting, etc. The honeymoon may be over. The divorce might be interesting.

 

The dirt Putin has on trump was useful when he could blackmail trump (and his staff, now heading to prison) with it.

Now that it's coming out anyway, it's more useful as an attack on the US. 'Great democracy you have, lol'. trump could be in for a surprise from his 'ally'.

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he indirectly burns Trump. The people of Russia cant know anything different

 

 And I do not see them as allies, Putin is using Trump.

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Putin might as well drop him now. He isn't going to get the release from sanctions and Mueller is just a matter of time

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So who is this Maria Butina chick, and where is she from and who sent her?

 

They send her to infiltrate the NRA, but in Russia, the got nothing like the NRA. 

 

In Russia, Putin likes to push hard core anti gay stuff. In Russia, which has a weak economy that seems mostly

 

based on selling natural resource like it's going out of fashion, they seem to rely on Oligarch's who like to steal such natural 

 

resources from the people of Russia, and also they are good at figuring out how to hack into computer systems, 

 

But they don't have a lot of guns for the most part, I mean the ones who do have guns don't register their guns for the

 

most part. The guns float in the black market in Russia for the most part.

 

 

So they thought that Maria Butina would fit right in with the NRA. Which she did for the most part.

 

So did the Russians filter money for the Trump campaign through the NRA? 

 

Of course all American Politicians show up for the NRA meeting, the necessary meeting, in order to make sure

 

they do not create a political enemy with the NRA, as Maria Butina knows...she does know at least one Russian Oligarch, one Konstantin Nikolaev, 

 

who has investments in US energy and technology companies. 

 

"If we go back in American history we find this country has never kept silence as to what it stands for.

 

Before I began to write novels I had forgotten all I learned at school and college." E.B. White

Yup- And Yikes...

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Will Putin Burn Trump?

 

The answer is in the first line of the OP.

On 12/3/2018 at 6:03 PM, Craig234 said:

Putin is not actually an ally of trump. Putin's agenda is pro-Putin, pro-Russia, anti-America and anti-west.

 

The interests of Russia, under the leadership of Putin, are bound to diverge from those of the US, far more than at present.   If Putin sees it to his advantage to inflict third degree burns, and finds himself in position to do so, Putin will most likely not hesitate to pounce.  Trump, on the other hand, appears to be afraid of Putin, for reasons we can only surmise, at this point.  Trump is a sitting duck.

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5 minutes ago, bludog said:

Trump, on the other hand, appears to be afraid of Putin, for reasons we can only surmise, at this point.

 

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15 hours ago, fourputt said:

The next shower to fall

 

... won't be yellow.  It will be black and white, in dry legalese.  And, like it or not, Mein Trumpfk will have to ingest it, just like golden showers.

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20 hours ago, bludog said:

 

... won't be yellow.  It will be black and white, in dry legalese.  And, like it or not, Mein Trumpfk will have to ingest it, just like golden showers.

 

Maybe others too.

 

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