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I've heard something like this:

  • Mueller knew Manafort was going to lying and let him lie.
  • As a stratagem, Mueller allowed Manafort or his lawyers to learn a piece of false information, one that Trump could not have known.
  • He allowed Manafort to repeat that information back to him as part of testimony.
  • He designed his questions to Trump based on what Manafort told him, that he knew was a lie.
  • He waited until Trump answered the questions.
  • If Trump's answers are identical to Manafort's, then he knows Manafort blabbed to Trump, contravening the agreement between Manafort and the special counsel's office.
  • Then Mueller has Manafort for lying: agreement is over, rot in jail forever.
  • And Mueller has Trump for colluding with Mueller, an obstruction of justice or witness tampering or some such.

No wonder the orange DiJiT is going crazy on Twitter.

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I have no doubt that Trump was told what was going on, but I find it difficult to believe Trump understood exactly what he was told or the consequences thereof.Β  He's not the brightest bulb.Β  Β But, who knows?Β  Β He's such a liar that it staggers the imagination that anyone could support him.Β Β 

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I have work to do; nice talking to you.

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36 minutes ago, laripu said:

I've heard something like this:

  • Mueller knew Manafort was going to lying and let him lie.
  • As a stratagem, Mueller allowed Manafort or his lawyers to learn a piece of false information, one that Trump could not have known.
  • He allowed Manafort to repeat that information back to him as part of testimony.
  • He designed his questions to Trump based on what Manafort told him, that he knew was a lie.
  • He waited until Trump answered the questions.
  • If Trump's answers are identical to Manafort's, then he knows Manafort blabbed to Trump, contravening the agreement between Manafort and the special counsel's office.
  • Then Mueller has Manafort for lying: agreement is over, rot in jail forever.
  • And Mueller has Trump for colluding with Mueller, an obstruction of justice or witness tampering or some such.

No wonder the orange DiJiT is going crazy on Twitter.

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Yes the American side of the Conspiracy is clear (+2 Brits)Β :

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12 Russian Agents / Hackers (Already Indicted)

Julian Assange (Probably indicted, soon to be kicked out of Embassy, and extradicted to US)

Nigel Farage (Known Assange visitor)
Ted Malloch (Arrested at Logan Airport 3/30/2018, had cellphone confiscated)

Corsi (Indicted)

Stone (Soon to be Indicted)

Manafort (Already Convicted, new charges pending)

Trump (TBD)

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Mueller probably had Embassy videotape of everyone who met with Assange.

Every Intelligence agency on earth had video / audio / internet / cellphone surveillance on that Ecuadorian Embassy for years.

One by one, Mueller asked Manafort, Corsi, Stone, Malloch, and Trump whether they communicated with Assange.

They all lied, and thought they got away with the lie.

Mueller has the hard evidence (video/ audio / digital) to prove they conspired to lie, which is 'consciousness of guilt' evidence.

Now, they are all implicated in a conspiracy to obstruct the investigation.

Meanwhile, the Ecuadorians are trying to get rid of Assange, so they will be glad to turn him over to US authorities.

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Trump is to simple has to much ego,Β  like Reagan . I would like to see him Impeached , but I do not think the Oliver North persona has been called upon yet.

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It's looking bad for trump, to no one's surprise. Of course, the whole system is designed around protecting the president. It's why everyone under Nixon was convicted before they got him, and he had people like G. Gordon Liddy offering to kill people who posed a threat.

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And while you had two DoJ officials resign when ordered to fire the special prosecutor, a third, Robert Bork (later rewarded by Reagan with a Supreme Court appointment, unlike the two principled people who resigned)Β Β did and he was gone.

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It's why you had everyone cover up Reagan's involvement in anything from the treason to block the hostage release, to Iran-Contra - while ten senior officials were charged, Reagan was not because the administration blocked the investigation.

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It's why you had Bush not held accountable for any number of crimes, even while in some others went to jail - from the lies about WMD and the persecution of Valerie Plame, to illegal warrantless wiretapping, to war crimes and torture and more.

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So we'll see how this goes, but it's looking bad for trump, in part because his family is more involved in some of the crimes.

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It appears to be confirmed that Manafort passed information to the Trump team via his lawyers:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-lawyer-trump_us_5bfdf5f8e4b0f43bf2661440

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So if that story is true, there was coordination between the Manafort team and the Trump team.

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In the reverse direction, ifΒ the Trump team told the Manafort team what to say, that would be witness tampering.

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