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And, of course, his lemming followers will eat it up and accept it as fact.  

 

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday said the campaign finance violations his longtime lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to in federal court on Tuesday were “not a crime,” even though prosecutors and Cohen agreed they were.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/trump-claims-cohens-campaign-finance-violations-are-not-a-crime-idUSKCN1L71GV

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2 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

And, of course, his lemming followers will eat it up and accept it as fact.  

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/trump-claims-cohens-campaign-finance-violations-are-not-a-crime-idUSKCN1L71GV

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/21/michael-cohen-plea-agreement-six-counts-valid-one-count-possibly-invalid-one-count-ridiculous-guess-where-the-media-focus/

 

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Michael Cohen Plea Agreement – Six Counts Valid, One Count Possibly Invalid, One Count Ridiculous – Guess Where The Media Focus…

 

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The Michael Cohen plea agreement (full pdf here) is a total of eight counts claimed by the SDNY as unlawful activity.  However, one count is entirely political and not supported by the Federal Election Commission.  Guess which one the media focus on?


Yeah, lets review.


Within the plea agreement the first five charges relate to tax avoidance, or tax evasion.  Each count relates to a specific tax year: 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016.  The sixth charge, a bank fraud charge, relates to lying on a credit application.  These six charges appear valid, documented and agreed in the plea. The seventh charge, relates to structuring financial transactions through the use of a corporation. This charge is tenuous, but arguable.


However, the eighth charge is the one the media are focused on.  The charge of an illegal campaign contribution:


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This Count Eight transaction surrounds a payment to Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels) of $130,000 for a nuisance claim.  Who says it is a campaign contribution?  The SDNY does, no-one else.  Not even the FEC considers this a campaign contribution.


Count eight is a political charge/plea specifically included for the purpose of pulling Donald Trump into the SDNY Cohen case. There is no FEC violation here.  *Note it is not the Federal Election Commission making the claim, only the SDNY prosecutors.


Despite the media hype it is not a campaign contribution for a candidate to instruct his attorney to pay-off a nuisance claim to avoid any issues or embarrassment.  It is not a campaign donation for Donald Trump to reimburse his attorney for paying the claim.


♦The issue of the Cohen payment being an “in kind” campaign contribution is the bottom line question which underpins the charge.


There is no FEC rule or law that says a candidate cannot pay-off an accuser to avoid further issues, a nuisance claim.  Paying an accuser to avoid controversy or embarrassment, is no different than a candidate buying an American made car -with personal funds- to gain the beneficial public optics of not driving a foreign car.  Neither expense example makes the payment an aspect of am “in kind” campaign contribution.


There is no connected claim that President Trump used campaign funds to repay his attorney for eliminating the nuisance claim.  President Trump, a businessman, used his own business income to repay his attorney; an attorney on a monthly retainer.


The entire charge of Cohen making a campaign contribution, or campaign finance violation, is a manufactured claim, made only by the SDNY, for political benefit.


Former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith explains the details of the non-issue to radio host Mark Levin.  Watch/Listen:

 

 


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You've got NOTHING on Trump, MORON.

 

But what a stack of crimes Muller and the rest of the coup members are racking up.

 

And don't worry ... their day will come.

 

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4 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/21/michael-cohen-plea-agreement-six-counts-valid-one-count-possibly-invalid-one-count-ridiculous-guess-where-the-media-focus/

 

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Michael Cohen Plea Agreement – Six Counts Valid, One Count Possibly Invalid, One Count Ridiculous – Guess Where The Media Focus…

 

by sundance


The Michael Cohen plea agreement (full pdf here) is a total of eight counts claimed by the SDNY as unlawful activity.  However, one count is entirely political and not supported by the Federal Election Commission.  Guess which one the media focus on?


Yeah, lets review.


Within the plea agreement the first five charges relate to tax avoidance, or tax evasion.  Each count relates to a specific tax year: 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016.  The sixth charge, a bank fraud charge, relates to lying on a credit application.  These six charges appear valid, documented and agreed in the plea. The seventh charge, relates to structuring financial transactions through the use of a corporation. This charge is tenuous, but arguable.


However, the eighth charge is the one the media are focused on.  The charge of an illegal campaign contribution:


cohen-plea-count-eight.jpg

 

This Count Eight transaction surrounds a payment to Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels) of $130,000 for a nuisance claim.  Who says it is a campaign contribution?  The SDNY does, no-one else.  Not even the FEC considers this a campaign contribution.


Count eight is a political charge/plea specifically included for the purpose of pulling Donald Trump into the SDNY Cohen case. There is no FEC violation here.  *Note it is not the Federal Election Commission making the claim, only the SDNY prosecutors.


Despite the media hype it is not a campaign contribution for a candidate to instruct his attorney to pay-off a nuisance claim to avoid any issues or embarrassment.  It is not a campaign donation for Donald Trump to reimburse his attorney for paying the claim.


♦The issue of the Cohen payment being an “in kind” campaign contribution is the bottom line question which underpins the charge.


There is no FEC rule or law that says a candidate cannot pay-off an accuser to avoid further issues, a nuisance claim.  Paying an accuser to avoid controversy or embarrassment, is no different than a candidate buying an American made car -with personal funds- to gain the beneficial public optics of not driving a foreign car.  Neither expense example makes the payment an aspect of am “in kind” campaign contribution.


There is no connected claim that President Trump used campaign funds to repay his attorney for eliminating the nuisance claim.  President Trump, a businessman, used his own business income to repay his attorney; an attorney on a monthly retainer.


The entire charge of Cohen making a campaign contribution, or campaign finance violation, is a manufactured claim, made only by the SDNY, for political benefit.


Former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith explains the details of the non-issue to radio host Mark Levin.  Watch/Listen:

 

 


trump-relax.jpg

 

 

 

You've got NOTHING on Trump, MORON.

 

 

 

 

Cohen will not take the fall alone. Moron

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11 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Lies and his idiot followers are all he's got left.

 

No, shi'tstain, WE HAVE PRECEDENCE ON OUR SIDE!!

 

IN A CASE OF ONE OF YOURS, SHI'TSTAIN!!
 

 

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Certainly, Mr. Edwards has lost in the court of public opinion. But on Thursday he was vindicated, for the moment, by a jury of mostly working class North Carolinians who could not reach a verdict on the five charges of campaign finance fraud and conspiracy he faced.

They acquitted him on one, which was based on a $200,000 check that the heiress Rachel Mellon had written him in January 2008, the month he dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination for president. The result was seen as a setback for the Justice Department’s public integrity section, the watchdog agency that has struggled to rebuild itself.

 

Oh, and THAT is from one of YOUR HANDLERS AND MANIPULATORS!!!
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/us/edwards-jury-returns-not-guilty-verdict-on-one-count.html

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9 minutes ago, Zaro said:

Cohen will not take the fall alone. Moron

 

I'm willing to bet you, Zaro.  ANY GUTS?  

 

I'll bet you my membership on this forum against yours, that come January 1st, Trump will still be President and you'll still be whining like the child you are.  

 

Game?  Or CHICKEN?

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23 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

And, of course, his lemming followers will eat it up and accept it as fact.  

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/trump-claims-cohens-campaign-finance-violations-are-not-a-crime-idUSKCN1L71GV

the methods were standard practice until Trump used them and those using them prior lost a fixed election cycle.

 

this whole show taking place for the last 2 years, is pure theater.  wait for the final curtain.

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this guys a Traitor also to them.....

 

Ex-Fox Analyst Ralph Peters: I’m Convinced Trump 'Is In Thrall To Vladimir Putin'

POSTED BY ELLEN · AUGUST 19, 2018 11:54 PM · 5 REACTIONS

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Retired Lt. Col. Ralph Peters sounded the alarm about Donald Trump and how he and Fox News are gifts to each other. “The polite word is ‘prostitutes,’” Peters said about his former Fox colleagues.

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Peters said. But, clearly, he sees Fox as partly responsible for our country's predicament. “What Fox is doing is causing real harm to our country right now,” Peters said. He described the relationship between Trump and Fox as "opportunistic." He said, “Trump was just a gift to Fox and Fox, in turn, is a gift to Trump.”

Later, Stelter brought up Trump’s revocation of former CIA Director John Brennan’s security clearance. We saw a video of Fox News hosts cheering the move juxtaposed with MSNBC pundits condemning it.

“Do you think your former colleagues at Fox are proud of their performance?” Stelter asked.

“The polite word is ‘prostitutes,’” Peters replied. “So, we’ll just leave it at that.”

Watch Peters speak out below, from CNN’s August 19, 2018 Reliable Sources.


Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/ex_fox_analyst_ralph_peters_convinced_trump_in_thrall_to_vladimir_putin_081918#kCUmHUvRvTWuqgbL.99

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5 minutes ago, benson13 said:

this guys a Traitor also to them.....

 

Ex-Fox Analyst Ralph Peters: I’m Convinced Trump 'Is In Thrall To Vladimir Putin'

POSTED BY ELLEN · AUGUST 19, 2018 11:54 PM · 5 REACTIONS

Stelter_Peters_081918.png?1534736831

Retired Lt. Col. Ralph Peters sounded the alarm about Donald Trump and how he and Fox News are gifts to each other. “The polite word is ‘prostitutes,’” Peters said about his former Fox colleagues.

Read more

 

 

Peters said. But, clearly, he sees Fox as partly responsible for our country's predicament. “What Fox is doing is causing real harm to our country right now,” Peters said. He described the relationship between Trump and Fox as "opportunistic." He said, “Trump was just a gift to Fox and Fox, in turn, is a gift to Trump.”

Later, Stelter brought up Trump’s revocation of former CIA Director John Brennan’s security clearance. We saw a video of Fox News hosts cheering the move juxtaposed with MSNBC pundits condemning it.

“Do you think your former colleagues at Fox are proud of their performance?” Stelter asked.

“The polite word is ‘prostitutes,’” Peters replied. “So, we’ll just leave it at that.”

Watch Peters speak out below, from CNN’s August 19, 2018 Reliable Sources.


Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/ex_fox_analyst_ralph_peters_convinced_trump_in_thrall_to_vladimir_putin_081918#kCUmHUvRvTWuqgbL.99

Benson, why do you only focus on spinning?  there are other forms of movements taking place simultaneously? have contracting results, expanding details, orbiting, revolving, spiraling, perpetual balancing, universal closed kinetic system keeping what is individually here able to exist individually able to move its own biologcal form as needed to adapt in an ever changing total sum environment?

 

why are your hypothetical possibilities more importnt than how everything actually works naturally?

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16 minutes ago, BeAChooser said:

 

I'm willing to bet you, Zaro.  ANY GUTS?  

 

I'll bet you my membership on this forum against yours, that come January 1st, Trump will still be President and you'll still be whining like the child you are.  

 

Game?  Or CHICKEN?

You are a morally depraved individual. You would come back as a sok

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1 hour ago, BeAChooser said:

 

I'm willing to bet you, Zaro.  ANY GUTS?  

 

I'll bet you my membership on this forum against yours, that come January 1st, Trump will still be President and you'll still be whining like the child you are.  

 

Game?  Or CHICKEN?

 

Howz bout betting on those Hillary indictments too,

You remember those, the ones you said would be any day as soon as Howdie Doodie took over the investigation?

 

Trumpos is guilty of so many different crimes, it might take several years for Muller and SDNY to find most of them.

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1 hour ago, Craig234 said:

It's a crime. The payment was specifically to benefit his candidacy. Cohen agreed and pled guilty. The judge agreed and approved the plea.

 

In addition to the crime, trump lied that he did not know about it.

 

But, but, but, but

FOX says Blah, blah, blah,

:)

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