Golfboy Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In Mueller memo, Papadopoulos emerges as bit player in Trump-Russia affair. This is hilarious. Quote Since the surprise announcement of his indictment and guilty plea on Oct. 30, 2017, the short-term, volunteer Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos has often been described as a central figure in the Trump-Russia affair. Now, a new court filing from special counsel Robert Mueller suggests Papadopoulos was a bit player all along. Mueller never charged Papadopoulos with any crime involving a conspiracy, or collusion, between the Trump campaign and Russia to fix the 2016 election. Instead, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI. He is scheduled to be sentenced Sept. 7. In preparation, Mueller's office on Friday submitted a memorandum to U.S. District Court in Washington outlining the special counsel's position on sentencing. Although Mueller is adamant that Papadopoulos serve some time in jail — the range for the offense is between zero and six months — the special counsel suggested the final sentence should be just 30 days. As justification, Mueller cited the 30-day sentence given to Alex van der Zwaan, one of the small-time figures caught up in the Trump-Russia probe. One possible problem with Mueller's story is that even after securing Papadopoulos' cooperation, Papadopoulos didn't seem to have much new to tell the FBI. "What's notable here is that, according to the sentencing memo, even after agreeing to cooperate, Papadopoulos provided no substantial information that the FBI didn't already have," Yahoo's Michael Isikoff noted in a tweet on Saturday. So the guy who the left claims was the reason for the Trump Collusion narrative, is likely to get less than a month in jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, Golfboy said: So the guy who the left claims was the reason for the Trump Collusion narrative, is likely to get less than a month in jail? If he cooperates and tells all he knows, yes. If he doesn't tell all, his time in the slammer will be much, MUCH longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, RollingRock said: If he cooperates and tells all he knows, yes. If he doesn't tell all, his time in the slammer will be much, MUCH longer. The whole thing is pathetic. Mueller brings up charges against people that have nothing to do with the investigation in order to force information from them. It is done all the time and it is immoral. That is the definition of a witch hunt. Why doesn't Mueller just throw them in the water all tied u and say if you sink and drown you are innocent but if you float, you are guilty and will go to jail. LOL Funny to see liberals supporting Spanish inquisition tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fallopian said: The whole thing is pathetic. Mueller brings up charges against people that have nothing to do with the investigation in order to force information from them. It is done all the time and it is immoral. That is the definition of a witch hunt. Why doesn't Mueller just throw them in the water all tied u and say if you sink and drown you are innocent but if you float, you are guilty and will go to jail. LOL Funny to see liberals supporting Spanish inquisition tactics. That would violate the 8th amendment. Are you saying these people are 100% innocent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, RollingRock said: That would violate the 8th amendment. Are you saying these people are 100% innocent? Are they being tried of anything related to the investigation? The answer is no. They are being tried for things unrelated to the investigation in order to squeeze them to turning on trump. A witch hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fallopian said: Are they being tried of anything related to the investigation? The answer is no. They are being tried for things unrelated to the investigation in order to squeeze them to turning on trump. A witch hunt. Not at all. Mueller has written authority to investigate and prosecute crimes that he comes upon during the course of his investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, RollingRock said: Not at all. Mueller has written authority to investigate and prosecute crimes that he comes upon during the course of his investigation. The authorization was not even remotely narrowed to anything. And yes that is exactly what he is doing. The primary purpose is to find out if the Trump campaign did anything wrong with regards to Russia. So far he has indicted people on things not relating to that but because as you said he has that authority, he is squeezing people. It's called a witch hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Fallopian said: The authorization was not even remotely narrowed to anything. And yes that is exactly what he is doing. The primary purpose is to find out if the Trump campaign did anything wrong with regards to Russia. So far he has indicted people on things not relating to that but because as you said he has that authority, he is squeezing people. He has the authority to "squeeze" people. He has the authority to investigate and prosecute any crime that he finds in the process of his investigation. It's not anything abnormal at all. If someone is investigating a murder and they have a suspect. They search the suspect's house and find a pound of cocaine and a client list, they CAN prosecute that as well. They don't have to stick to the reason for the investigation (which is murder). It's the same concept. Quote It's called a witch hunt. No, a "witch hunt" is launching an investigation into something for which there is no crime. There is obviously a crime (Russians DID screw with the 2016 election). Mueller's simply investigating whether the Trump campaign helped commit that crime. If he finds a money-laundering dirtbag named Manafort along the way, then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, RollingRock said: No, a "witch hunt" is launching an investigation into something for which there is no crime. There is obviously a crime (Russians DID screw with the 2016 election). Mueller's simply investigating whether the Trump campaign helped commit that crime. If he finds a money-laundering dirtbag named Manafort along the way, then so be it. Poor thing. You just can't seem to "get it" can you pissbag. There is NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION HERE. Never was. Collusion takes 2 parties. Russian attempts to interfere is on the RUSSIANS and even THEY are fighting the charges and guess what- THEY are going to win that one too since Mueller charged them and won't provide DISCOVERY as they are totally entitled to have. Oops. CASE DISMISSED THERE!! So what ELSE do you think you have that has ALREADY been TOTALLY PROVEN TO BE FALSE at the bear minimum of 20-30 times??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theLion Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 911 call: there’s a burglar in my back yard. Responding cops: didn’t find a burglar, but we found a meth kitchen. Fallopian: they can’t charge anyone, they were there to investigate a burglar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRock Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, MidnightMax said: There is NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION HERE. Never was. That remains to be seen. If there's nothing there, why did Trump and so many of his people LIE about speaking with Russians? 17 minutes ago, MidnightMax said: Collusion takes 2 parties. Russian attempts to interfere is on the RUSSIANS and even THEY are fighting the charges and guess what- THEY are going to win that one too since Mueller charged them and won't provide DISCOVERY as they are totally entitled to have. Oops. CASE DISMISSED THERE!! Nothing's been dismissed. Mueller will provide discovery to the judge as required, not to Devin Nunes and his band of merry Trump apologists. 17 minutes ago, MidnightMax said: So what ELSE do you think you have that has ALREADY been TOTALLY PROVEN TO BE FALSE at the bear minimum of 20-30 times??? Nothing's been proven false. Don't believe everything Hannity tells you; he's chock full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, RollingRock said: He has the authority to "squeeze" people. He has the authority to investigate and prosecute any crime that he finds in the process of his investigation. It's not anything abnormal at all. If someone is investigating a murder and they have a suspect. They search the suspect's house and find a pound of cocaine and a client list, they CAN prosecute that as well. They don't have to stick to the reason for the investigation (which is murder). It's the same concept. No, a "witch hunt" is launching an investigation into something for which there is no crime. There is obviously a crime (Russians DID screw with the 2016 election). Mueller's simply investigating whether the Trump campaign helped commit that crime. If he finds a money-laundering dirtbag named Manafort along the way, then so be it. As the saying goes, in Washington you can indict a ham sandwich. Yes the Russians did but that has nothing to do with Trump. There wasn't a crime there. We only have an accusation by the democrats and that is all that matters. Witch hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, RollingRock said: That remains to be seen. If there's nothing there, why did Trump and so many of his people LIE about speaking with Russians? No one has "lied" moron. THAT is coming from your HANDLERS, but the FACTS say otherwise. Don Jr. admitting it right away and was sooooo damn unimportant a meeting, that he didn't consider it remotely valuable to ANYTHING. Still, there is NO COLLUSION coming out of that meeting. 46 minutes ago, RollingRock said: Mueller will provide discovery to the judge as required You moron. DISCOVERY is provided TO THE DEFENSE, not any JUDGE. The JUDGE CAN ORDER IT AND WILL. NO ONE SAID A THING ABOUT IT HAS BEEN DISMISSED, BUT MOST LIKELY IT IS GOING TO BE. Mueller overplayed THIS one and anyone with a bit of legal knowledge has said as much. YOU LOSE here, moron. 47 minutes ago, RollingRock said: Nothing's been proven false. Don't believe everything Hannity tells you; he's chock full of Bad word. 99% of you handlers CLAIMS have been TOTALLY PROVEN FALSE. I don't watch or listen to Hannity. The SIMPLE FACT IS, 100% of "leaks" coming from the Mueller investigation have NEVER BEEN CORROBORATED BY MUELLER OR ANYONE, so basically, it's BULLSHI'T hearsay. THAT makes it MANIPULATION OF YOU LEMMINGS and nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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