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FBI is 'caught in the act' of spying on the President again

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Another scandal spreads in the American establishment. According to American columnist for National Review Andrew McCarthy in a recent column Glenn Simpson the co-founder of an intelligence firm Fusion GPS, that compiled research on Trump during the campaign, had testified to the Senate that the F.B.I. had a ‘human source’ within the campaign.
Trump’s reaction was not long in coming.
“Wow, word seems to be coming out that the Obama FBI SPIED ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WITH AN EMBEDDED INFORMANT,'” Trump tweeted. “Andrew McCarthy says, ‘There’s probably no doubt that they had at least one confidential informant in the campaign.'”
Thus one more fact of the FBI's abuse of power added to the list against a background of the confrontation between the head of the White House and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The whole thing started in 2016. The powerful intelligence agency suffered criticism from Donald Trump back then during the elections. Then he accused the FBI of Hillary Clinton's support and covering the Clinton email investigation.
Speaking in Minneapolis in 2016, Trump said Clinton was being “protected by a rigged system….she will be under investigation for a long, long time, likely concluding in a criminal trial”. At that time the tough talk of the odious businessman wasn't taken seriously, just because his words were not confirmed.
Next the public became aware of text messages exchanged by two anti-Trump FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. The pair worked on the investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server and were later kicked off special counsel Robert Mueller’s team probing possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
In the latest batch of texts from May 2017, Strzok and Page were ‘angry and mourning’ over Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey.
Several conservative media and the expert community required to ‘investigate and prosecute’. However there had been no response from officials.
In addition, in late January, House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes reportedly accused the FBI of abusing FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) warrants to spy on Donald Trump’s campaign.
But all these things were overshadowed by Comey's recent revelations. His claims and admissions confirmed the FBI under his direction actually had interfered into American elections. The former director admitted he had reopened an investigation on Clinton to legitimate her victory in presidential race and to show “impartiality” of the Bureau to the American people. At the time he was sure of her landslide victory. Comey did not conceal that he and his wife had given preference to Clinton in 2016. But at the time the ex-FBI head did not expect that his actions would deal a devastating blow to her campaign.
These cases should be investigated seriously and may even require an assignment of another special counsel who would “stir up a wasps' nest” in the FBI. The American society has a right to demand the same impartiality as in the investigation of Trump-Russia connections.

 

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you mean....doing their Job by watching the Russians in Tramps Campaign....along with the Tramp Russian Puppet Family and Cronies don't you?

 

 

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1 minute ago, benson13 said:

 

 

 

you mean....doing their Job by watching the Russians in Tramps Campaign....along with the Tramp Russian Puppet Family and Cronies don't you?

 

 

 

And have they found the Russians in the Campaign??

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Public discussion of the FBI’s ongoing investigation into Russian influence on the 2016 election is dominated by the question of collusion: Were senior members of the Trump campaign knowing collaborators in the Russian government’s campaign to undermine Hillary Clinton’s candidacy?

 

My own view is that we’re unlikely to get any truly conclusive evidence of this—but also that it’s a mistake to treat it as the only important question for an investigation to answer.

 

There are two main reasons I doubt we’re going to get any smoking gun proof of secret coordination between Russia and Trump’s campaign. The first is simply that, even if it had happened, there’s no reason to expect that unambiguous evidence of it would necessarily be available to the FBI.

 

Collusion, after all, is ultimately a question of the conversations people had—and in this case you’d expect that at least on the Russian side there would be an acute understanding of the need to keep those conversations secret.

 

If those conversations were conducted in person, there’s no real way to retroactively prove what was said unless one of the participants confess. If they were telephone conversations, the same applies unless one of the parties happened to be under electronic surveillance at the time (and using an actively monitored communications facility).

 

Absent that, you might be able to show a suspicious volume of contacts, but on the critical question of what was said, you’d be out of luck. Conspiracy is just inherently a hard thing to prove unless one of the conspirators flips or is dim enough to leave a paper trail.

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Time will tell.....Cohens Russian business partner is now coming forward....the Noose is tightening

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Probably the best counterargument to this line of reasoning is that Trump continues to behave for all the world like a man desperate to hide something. But that could be any number of things other than direct and explicit conspiracy with self-identified Russian intelligence operatives.

 

I won’t indulge in lengthy speculation about the range of possibilities here, but if the FBI is spending months turning over rocks, scrutinizing the personal and financial ties between Trump or his associates and Russian officials or businesses, there’s a pretty good chance of bumping into any adjacent unseemly or unlawful conduct in the process, even if they come up empty on a conspiracy to affect the outcome of the election.

 

To the extent that anything along those lines is known to Russia, it’s a potential source of leverage over anyone in the administration who’d be implicated by its disclosure.

 

Alternatively, Russian operatives may well have found ways to manipulate, extract information from, or gain influence over members of the Trump team who were unaware of it at the time.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-collusion-russia-was-hiding-plain-sight-609433

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1 minute ago, benson13 said:

Probably the best counterargument to this line of reasoning is that Trump continues to behave for all the world like a man desperate to hide something. But that could be any number of things other than direct and explicit conspiracy with self-identified Russian intelligence operatives.

 

I won’t indulge in lengthy speculation about the range of possibilities here, but if the FBI is spending months turning over rocks, scrutinizing the personal and financial ties between Trump or his associates and Russian officials or businesses, there’s a pretty good chance of bumping into any adjacent unseemly or unlawful conduct in the process, even if they come up empty on a conspiracy to affect the outcome of the election.

 

To the extent that anything along those lines is known to Russia, it’s a potential source of leverage over anyone in the administration who’d be implicated by its disclosure.

 

Alternatively, Russian operatives may well have found ways to manipulate, extract information from, or gain influence over members of the Trump team who were unaware of it at the time.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-collusion-russia-was-hiding-plain-sight-609433

As for me its too difficult to make such operation to manipulate Trump. I suppose that the FBI just to influence Trump and the Campaign. And as you've said the Bureau spent lots of money and other resources but where is the result? What do you think people pay taxes for?

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2 questions

 

Why is Tramp acting so Guilty....along with his admin?

 

Why did the Russians want him in the WH so badly?

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"the Bureau spent lots of money and other resources but where is the result?"

 

 

19 Indicted so far...and 5 Guilty Pleas 

 

not to mention 70 more subpoenas going out by Mueller

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5 minutes ago, benson13 said:

2 questions

 

Why is Tramp acting so Guilty....along with his admin?

 

Why did the Russians want him in the WH so badly?

The Russians lost more than got because of sanctions from their 'friend' Trump

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21 minutes ago, benson13 said:

ONLY because he was FORCED to do it....How log did it take him?

At once as previous sanctions finished!

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no....wrong

 

still asking

 

Ques....why did the Russians want Tramp in the WH so badly??????????

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1 hour ago, benson13 said:

you mean....doing their Job by watching the Russians in Tramps Campaign....along with the Tramp Russian Puppet Family and Cronies don't you?

So they spied on Trump's campaign, and came up empty handed?

Who was arrested as a result of this spying by the Obama Administration?

 

 

No one. 

 

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9 minutes ago, benson13 said:

no....wrong

 

still asking

 

Ques....why did the Russians want Tramp in the WH so badly??????????

Because Hillary.   Dumbass.

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you mean....they had enough of the Cintons as in Bosnia????

 

Sanctions????

 

 

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18 minutes ago, benson13 said:

no....wrong

 

still asking

 

Ques....why did the Russians want Tramp in the WH so badly??????????

They don't want Trump. I suppose that they don't care who is in there

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6 hours ago, benson13 said:

2 questions

 

Why is Tramp acting so Guilty....along with his admin?

 

Why did the Russians want him in the WH so badly?

Have you worked with Hillary?   No?   They you don’t know 

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The FBI is allowed to spy, if it so deems it necessary. Trump, of all people, deserves the scrutiny.

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6 hours ago, IanCortes said:

They don't want Trump. I suppose that they don't care who is in there

 

Why did Trump hire people for his campaign who were known to be Russians spies? Carter Page was being investigated by the FBI.

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6 hours ago, Golfboy said:

So they spied on Trump's campaign, and came up empty handed?

Who was arrested as a result of this spying by the Obama Administration?

 

 

No one. 

 

27 indictment is nothing. Along with the 5 guilty pleas. Lol lmao. 

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Just now, dontlooknow said:

27 indictment is nothing. Along with the 5 guilty pleas. Lol lmao. 

 

Yes, but besides the damning evidence where is your proof.....

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7 hours ago, IanCortes said:

As for me its too difficult to make such operation to manipulate Trump. I suppose that the FBI just to influence Trump and the Campaign.

 

 

 

You have no business being in the Elite English Unit, you halfwitted Russian whore.

 

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My own view is that we’re unlikely to get any truly conclusive evidence of this

Your view is right, for once.  Because there IS NO EVIDENCE at all of Trump colluding with Russians to rig elections.

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Just now, Skans said:

Your view is right, for once.  Because there IS NO EVIDENCE at all of Trump colluding with Russians to rig elections.

 

Okay, but Mueller is not investigating the rigging of elections. To my knowledge, at least.

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