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1 hour ago, SPLIB said:

One of my personal facts is that we didn't go to the moon.

 

Not a fact. It's an article of your faith perhaps. About as valid as Madam Aneeb in the Gabban a Beeben (or something like that). You know, where they were tempted by a snork.

 

You can't make yourself any taller by making others shorter.

 

Smart people discover things, create things, and add value to our poor suffering humanity.

 

You don't make yourself smarter by derogating real knowledge, destroying things. We must accept human suffering, because there isn't any choice ... yet.

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5 minutes ago, laripu said:

 

Not a fact. It's an article of your faith perhaps. About as valid as Madam Aneeb in the Gabban a Beeben (or something like that). You know, where they were tempted by a snork.

 

You can't make yourself any taller by making others shorter.

 

Smart people discover things, create things, and add value to our poor suffering humanity.

 

You don't make yourself smarter by derogating real knowledge, destroying things. We must accept human suffering, because there isn't any choice ... yet.

 

A snork? LOL.😵

 

I just had to look that one up. I'm gonna steal it.

 

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Snork

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15 minutes ago, TDS said:

A snork? LOL.

 

I just had to look that one up. I'm gonna steal it.

 

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Snork

 

Whatever you want, but it was Adam and Eve (Madam Aneeb) in the Garden of Eden (Gabban a Beeben) and a snake (snork).

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3 hours ago, laripu said:

 

Not a fact. It's an article of your faith perhaps. About as valid as Madam Aneeb in the Gabban a Beeben (or something like that). You know, where they were tempted by a snork.

 

You can't make yourself any taller by making others shorter.

 

Smart people discover things, create things, and add value to our poor suffering humanity.

 

You don't make yourself smarter by derogating real knowledge, destroying things. We must accept human suffering, because there isn't any choice ... yet.

It was in Agada Davida, baby.

 

I agree that one does not gain height by shortening others (save relatively), but I defy you to deny that heels can't do the job, if only temporarily. And speaking of things temporal, we must suffer because we are in hell - or at least, hell's waiting room. When our table opens in Bogota, we'll get to Hades proper. 

 

Which for some reason brings to mind Splib's First Dictum: The earth is a spinning ball of sh!t, and all is corruption. The earth is designed to make fossils of the things it makes - integrate and exude, integrate again and exude again, using each re-integration to fuel the next diffusion. People observe and insist that "things" are "changing;" but the only proper read of events is that change - the one constant - is endlessly thinging.

 

The earth is DESIGNED to turn everything into sh!t, and then turn sh!t into everything. That is why, when you observe that 90% of books, movies, friendships, restaurants, politics - everything, - is sh!t, this observation should put you at ease, knowing that things are NOT changing. Change is thinging - and thinging, and thinging, and thinging. That is how things you never heard of suddenly become a thing. The earth things them into exitence, and will reintegrate them in its time, as it will us.

 

And that is Splib's First Dictum - a modest attempt by a man of moderate intellect to make sense of the world into which he was born. 

 

As to the lunar visitation, I was speaking tongue in cheek. I proclaim ignorance of whether we indeed visited the moon. I know we bombed it. Trusting Bush's manifest intellect and decency, I assume the moon deserved it. But whether we travelled there or staged it, I can only guess, since I did not directly observe it. For that matter, had I directly observed it, I would still be open to the idea that we never went there, since I also directly observed David Copperfield pulling a car out of his ass in a Las Vegas casino. The difference between me and any ordinary witness of good faith is that I know how untrustworthy my best and most rigorous  testimony is, and the average sworn witness is deluded to think he apprehends reality.

 

Our tiny brains are utterly beneath the task of living well. This goes as well for the Ashkenazi as it does for the Sub-Saharan African (and I hope you see what I did there). Once one accepts this, one is faced with the irrational option of surrender, or the rational option of reinvesting one's respect in the value of one's gut and heart - those other hosts of the sort of ganglia and neural pathways which by some mechanism give rise to cogitation. 

 

Splib's Second Theorum is that the brain thinks - and all of its thoughts are fleeting, because  it forever gains new information against which to process previous judgments, which data it then uses to think again - and again, and again. That is why fashions change. That is why consensus reality shifts. That is why new laws are made and old ones struck down. That is why we had legal slavery, and don't. 

 

The heart and the gut are more constant than the ever changing, ever chauvinist brain. They are not hyperkinetic.They don't second guess. When the gut (rarely) speaks, it does so authoritatively - often as if life and death are in the balance. When the heart speaks, it speaks with one mind, in terms that not only define the issue, but the self.

 

If a man would know himself, he must cease to think for some time, taming and putting in its place the noisy mind, teaching it to share and to listen. To be alive from the neck up is common. To be alive from the crown down requires integrating our three centers of intellect, such that they interact respectfully and automatically - the heart never taking on math and the brain never denying the gut's command to flee, even in the seeming absence of any detectable threat.

 

When heart. mind and gut are in one accord, a man is ready to be civilized. Until then, you have to use the stick.

 

And those two dictums are my only ones, so I hope you liked them. I spent a lot of time formulating those. My original dictums were, "Whatever makes you puke is bad," and "Women don't fart - all they eat is salad." Neither of those panned out. I hadda use Ipecac to get the cloying odor of my wife's bowel off my palate, destroying two dictums in a single desperate, but educational, purge. 

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7 hours ago, SPLIB said:

The earth is DESIGNED to turn everything into sh!t, and then turn sh!t into everything. That is why, when you observe that 90% of books, movies, friendships, restaurants, politics - everything, - is sh!t, this observation should put you at ease, knowing that things are NOT changing. Change is thinging - and thinging, and thinging, and thinging. That is how things you never heard of suddenly become a thing. The earth things them into exitence, and will reintegrate them in its time, as it will us.

 

Surprisingly, there's a lot there with which I agree. I disagree with the word "designed" in that context. It while it works that way it wasn't designed. And your estimate that 90% of everything is sh!t is too low. I've been - literally - saying that for years, but my estimate was always 95%, and even that may be too low. And despite the fanciful language ("change is thinging"), it's a good observation.

 

But there's still change, and lots of it is at the 5% good end of the normal curve. It's just agonizingly slow; but easily visible over longer periods of time.

 

You claim not to know whether humans landed on the moon. I really don't believe you. I've flown all over the world, but 150 years ago that would have been only a dream. I've seen pictures of nuclear explosions and Mars, and now the far side of the moon. I've survived surgery without infection. Technological advance isn't less believable because evidence of it takes place far away.

 

Actually, we're good but very slow at making dreams come true.

 

7 hours ago, SPLIB said:

Our tiny brains are utterly beneath the task of living well. 

 

If a man would know himself, he must cease to think for some time, taming and putting in its place the noisy mind, teaching it to share and to listen.

 

The first statement is incorrect. Everyone is different and some people can indeed think their way to living well.

 

There is improvement, and the improvement is worth pursuing, because over time it's enormous. (I didn't say "huge". I hope you see what I didn't do there.)

 

The second statement is a bit fanciful but has some value. I'd say it differently: sit back and relax. Observe. Feel your own place in the world.

 

Or someone might say "meditate". Just different ways of saying the same thing.

 

7 hours ago, SPLIB said:

When heart. mind and gut are in one accord, a man is ready to be civilized. Until then, you have to use the stick.

 

You forgot pudenda in the list. You have to use the stick sometimes, but not always, and not with everyone. Everyone is different, in different balance, and with different capabilities. One person may be weak in one area, but be a valuable boon in another. I can't play or appreciate basketball. (But I love hockey. ☺️)

 

Making important decisions with your gut and without your brain is a poor way to proceed if you're good at thinking. And if you're not good at thinking, your gut won't help ... and 95% of everything you do will be sh!t.

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