Golfboy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I hope all the idiots forking out their hard earned money for these pieces of Bad word, don't die because of the poor workmanship. Quote After Tesla’s Model S sedans and Model X SUVs roll off the company’s Fremont, California assembly line, the electric vehicles usually make another stop - for repairs, nine current and former employees have told Reuters. The luxury cars regularly require fixes before they can leave the factory, according to the workers. Quality checks have routinely revealed defects in more than 90 percent of Model S and Model X vehicles inspected after assembly, these individuals said, citing figures from Tesla’s internal tracking system as recently as October. Some of these people told Reuters of seeing problems as far back as 2012. The world’s most efficient automakers, such as Toyota (7203.T), average post-manufacturing fixes on fewer than 10 percent of their cars, according to industry experts. Getting quality right during initial assembly is crucial, they said, because repairs waste time and money. At Tesla “so much goes into rework after the car is done ... that’s where their money is being spent,” a former Tesla supervisor said. Still, the magazine and market researcher J.D. Power have dinged the company on quality, citing troubles such as faulty door handles and body panel gaps. Bernstein analyst A.M. (Toni) Sacconaghi, Jr. test-drove one of the company’s new Model 3 sedans earlier this month, writing that the fit and finish were “relatively poor.” Tesla owners have complained on web forums of annoying rattles, buggy software and poor seals that allow rainwater to seep into the interior or trunk. Auto industry experts say the company’s survival now depends on its ability to crank out high-quality cars in volume as it begins to build its first mass-market car, the Model 3, which starts at $35,000. Tesla has never turned an annual profit and is burning through $1 billion a quarter. That is unsustainable without fresh cash or a big increase in sales to mainstream customers who may prove less forgiving of potential defects. Snags are normal with any new launch. But chronic defects with Tesla’s established Models S and X show a company still struggling to master basic manufacturing, workers said. Known as “kickbacks” within Tesla, these vehicles have glitches as minor as dents and scratches to more complex troubles such as malfunctioning seats. Easy fixes are made swiftly on the factory floor, workers said. Trickier cases head to one of Tesla’s outdoor parking lots to await repair. The backlog in one of those two lots, dubbed the “yard,” has exceeded 2,000 vehicles at times, workers told Reuters. Tesla denied to Reuters that such “repair lots” exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Well, I hope that they improve upon this. Northern Nevada is banking on Tesla's success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 18 hours ago, lucifershammer said: I thought I taught you how to swear Fuck. Sorry, sometimes I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 17 hours ago, impartialobserver said: Well, I hope that they improve upon this. Northern Nevada is banking on Tesla's success. Me too. 90% of cars need repairs? That's just nuts. And evidently the welds absolutely suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 10:24 AM, Golfboy said: Me too. 90% of cars need repairs? That's just nuts. And evidently the welds absolutely suck. The manufacturing is not done in Northern Nevada but rather Fremont, CA (East Bay). However, the batteries and some of the electrical infrastructure is built just east of Reno. This just shows that perception matters more than reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, impartialobserver said: The manufacturing is not done in Northern Nevada but rather Fremont, CA (East Bay). However, the batteries and some of the electrical infrastructure is built just east of Reno. This just shows that perception matters more than reality. 90% of their cars come off the assembly line, needing "repair". That's a stunningly poor number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impartialobserver Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Golfboy said: 90% of their cars come off the assembly line, needing "repair". That's a stunningly poor number. I get you. Appparently, those who buy the cars are more concerned with perception and prestige than quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Golfboy, what's your beef with Tesla? All cars have their problems. I've owned Mercedes that have the stupidest things break on them. I've owned American cars that have the most ridiculous things break or wear out or even disintegrate. Really stupid design problems. I've owned Japanese cars that rust from the inside out. I had a VW Tuareg that would lock up the seatbelt whenever the back seat was folded down - only way to fold the seat up was to buy a special tool to unbolt the seatbelt anchor. You had to do this ever single time you put the stupid seat down. One of my cars had the back part of the driver's seat snap completely off while I was driving it - bracket broke in half! One of the best cars I've ever owned was a 2002 Ford Thunderbird. Too bad I totaled it - my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Skans said: Golfboy, what's your beef with Tesla? All cars have their problems. I've owned Mercedes that have the stupidest things break on them. I've owned American cars that have the most ridiculous things break or wear out or even disintegrate. Really stupid design problems. I've owned Japanese cars that rust from the inside out. I had a VW Tuareg that would lock up the seatbelt whenever the back seat was folded down - only way to fold the seat up was to buy a special tool to unbolt the seatbelt anchor. You had to do this ever single time you put the stupid seat down. One of my cars had the back part of the driver's seat snap completely off while I was driving it - bracket broke in half! One of the best cars I've ever owned was a 2002 Ford Thunderbird. Too bad I totaled it - my bad Fewer than 10% of MOST manufacturers have issues after assembly. Some are "defects" that appear much later- as in your case and are often repaired under warranty. BUT 90% needing repair after rolling off the assembly line is not just high, but probably VERY unsafe for the consumers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 4:03 PM, Golfboy said: I hope all the idiots forking out their hard earned money for these pieces of Bad word, don't die because of the poor workmanship. Its what Libretards live for, this is what they call " job security "and "job Growth". Its the only fkn way a Liberal can create a job ....Fuk schitt up so bad it takes 30 people to fix it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Consumer Reports rated the Tesla S pretty highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, XavierOnassis said: Consumer Reports rated the Tesla S pretty highly. Of course they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 6:24 PM, impartialobserver said: Well, I hope that they improve upon this. Northern Nevada is banking on Tesla's success. What's even crazier is they haven't profited yet their stock is over $300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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