native Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I think its overdue and desperately needed Im all for raising tariffs Revenue tariffs Even protective tariffs if necessary Make it a horrific business decision to move overseas Even foreign investment should be treated with hostility imho I believe America should be as self sufficient as She can possibly be I think this is how we all prosper, bring massive amounts of people out of poverty and raise the standard of living Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, native said: I think its overdue and desperately needed Im all for raising tariffs Revenue tariffs Even protective tariffs if necessary Make it a horrific business decision to move overseas Even foreign investment should be treated with hostility imho I believe America should be as self sufficient as She can possibly be I think this is how we all prosper, bring massive amounts of people out of poverty and raise the standard of living Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 I know Im so on point its funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, native said: I know Im so on point its funny Talking points only weave a social web of self deception practiced by everyone willing to ignore life as physically self contained to being eternally separated now biologically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomalthusian Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, native said: I think its overdue and desperately needed Im all for raising tariffs Revenue tariffs Even protective tariffs if necessary Make it a horrific business decision to move overseas Even foreign investment should be treated with hostility imho I believe America should be as self sufficient as She can possibly be I think this is how we all prosper, bring massive amounts of people out of poverty and raise the standard of living This makes strange bedfellows for you. It puts you squarely in agreement with the likes of American labor unions as well as Steve Bannon and Donald Trump. In fact it was this sort of thing that lured more union household votes away from Democrats than any presidential election since the 1984 Reagan landslide. In short, this protectionist rhetoric is the reason Donald Trump is in office. Yet every economist from Paul Krugman to Ludwig von Mises has warned against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Doing player Bad word dontlooknow Where the weed at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Ha no cursing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Oh no Well do you smoke any less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Lol ok that's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 You can say nuke north korea but not f#@k north korea 🇺🇸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yea it is what gave trump the election imho Its what attracted some to Bernie His trade was a little softer but still similiar to trump I say trump is soft by the way Free trade doesnt work Especially when the playing field is not even Its nowhere near even This isnt competition Its a set up We need to reverse this Have manufacturing here Have the millions of jobs flood back Think about us first No loyalty to some rigged global market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Sure, Smoot- Hawley was a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 16 hours ago, native said: I think its overdue and desperately needed Im all for raising tariffs Revenue tariffs Even protective tariffs if necessary Make it a horrific business decision to move overseas Even foreign investment should be treated with hostility imho I believe America should be as self sufficient as She can possibly be I think this is how we all prosper, bring massive amounts of people out of poverty and raise the standard of living I am against tariffs and protectionism in general. I am a laissez faire capitalist. Protectionism is anti-capitalism. It is direct government intervention in the market place. I never understood how a conservative today can still call them selves a conservative is they support protectionist policies. These policies grow the federal government massively. I don't know if you are a conservative but many conservatives here support protectionist policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomalthusian Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 17 hours ago, native said: Yea it is what gave trump the election imho Its what attracted some to Bernie His trade was a little softer but still similiar to trump I say trump is soft by the way Free trade doesnt work Especially when the playing field is not even Its nowhere near even This isnt competition Its a set up We need to reverse this Have manufacturing here Have the millions of jobs flood back Think about us first No loyalty to some rigged global market Almost every economist, left and right, from Paul Krugman to Ludwig von Mises, disagrees with this, believes it will broadly lower living standards and social and economic wellbeing, and probably lead to war. https://mises.org/library/economic-nationalism-philosophy-war Right wing or left, prominent economic nationalists/protectionists are manipulative populists and propagandists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Well fallopian im not a conservative Im a left leaning constitutionalist Tariffs would take the place of the federal income tax That's what swells the federal government The feds should run off of tariffs and corporate taxes Period All income tax would now stay in state as they should How does that swell anything? Lassaiz Faire on an uneven playing field? Global market is hardly capitalism Slave labor has no place in a real market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallopian Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 3 hours ago, native said: Well fallopian im not a conservative Im a left leaning constitutionalist Tariffs would take the place of the federal income tax That's what swells the federal government The feds should run off of tariffs and corporate taxes Period All income tax would now stay in state as they should How does that swell anything? Lassaiz Faire on an uneven playing field? Global market is hardly capitalism Slave labor has no place in a real market If you have this tariff system, you will drive other markets away from us and damage our economy. A left leaning constitutionalist. That's funny stuff right there. LOL! I am against state income taxes. One of the biggest problem with state income taxes is sales tax states like mine have to subsidize these states via the federal tax code. It is a scam. The opportunity is there for you to make money. There isn't any system where the playing field is level. All you can do is restrict and redistribute. This removes incentive to make money under these systems No one but you is talking about slave labor. Your thread would be more interesting if you didn't repeat the same old leftist rhetoric from the last 100 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
native Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Lol oh never heard of classical liberals fallopian? That's what we are Left leaning constitutionalists Maybe you didnt read my last post There would be no federal income tax Scam over player Again No More Federal Income Tax It drives nobody away Who's going to go? Where they gonna go? Laissez faire must have an even playing field or it turns fascist real quick Yea i know you dont wanna talk about slave labor Kills your whole argument now doesn't it? Now did you want to discuss this? Or you wanna use more throw away bs talking points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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