slideman Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 "In early November, President Donald Trump declared a national emergency against opioid abuse. “The opioid is a tremendous emergency,” he said in his characteristic style. The declaration of an emergency means that state funds should go post-haste to help stem the crisis. It is not clear, however, if this will be enough. There are indeed severe problems of inadequate funding for the treatment of addiction, and funds will be welcome. But the problem also exists at the other end—the production of the addicts. This would require a full-scale assault on the pharmaceutical industry. Whether Trump will have the stomach to take on this powerful industry is to be seen."https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/10/big-pharmas-pushers-the-roots-of-the-opioid-crisis/ Where did all these addicts come from? They were prescribed opioids by their doctors who are the tools of the pharmaceutical industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Multiple lawsuits against major pharmaceutical companies have originated in Ohio this year, as the overdose death tolls climbs once again to record-shattering numbers. Attorney General Mike DeWine filed one of those civil complaints in May, alleging that the likes of Janssen Pharmaceutical, Allergan, Purdue Pharma, Endo and Cephalon played an active role in flooding the market with prescription painkillers, which led explicitly to addiction for untold numbers of Ohioans. Now, Purdue Pharma is arguing that the suit should be tossed. The central contention is that DeWine is seeking to circumvent federal regulations by using state law to hold Purdue and the other companies liable. https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/09/11/pharmaceutical-company-respond-to-ohios-opioid-crisis-lawsuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untitled Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 People are getting stoned because they cannot handle our horrible political situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Typical Dhumorrhoid BULLLSHIT!!! YOU always want to BLAME SOMEONE OR SOMETHING for the simple fact that the PROBLEM IS ROOTED WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE AND TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS!!! But I will give you that oblameoNOFUCKINGCARE and oblameo telling people to "take the blue pill" IS a lot of the reason PEOPLE DON"T AND CAN'T GET THE TREATMENTS NEEDED TO EASE OR END THE PAIN THEY ARE IN IN THE FIRST PLACE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Quote But the problem also exists at the other end—the production of the addicts. This would require a full-scale assault on the pharmaceutical industry. Whether Trump will have the stomach to take on this powerful industry is to be seen. I would like to see the Trump Administration kick Big Pharma in the groin, shake them down to size, and then clamp down on medical marijuana as part of that. Drugs are the opiates of the masses. Our children's children will be slaves unto a regime that keeps them addicted to "medicine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Big pharma = pushers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, Zaro said: Big pharma = pushers Riggghttttt....as your little god and hero, oblameo, told EVERYONE to "take the blue pill" instead of actually getting what was wrong, fixed, since it was going to be tooooo expensive!! Go fuck yourself zar-HO and get back in your weight class before you get your little ASS stomped again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, MidnightMax said: Riggghttttt....as your little god and hero, oblameo, told EVERYONE to "take the blue pill" instead of actually getting what was wrong, fixed, since it was going to be tooooo expensive!! Go fuck yourself zar-HO and get back in your weight class before you get your little ASS stomped again. Take your chill pill you raging moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightMax Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zaro said: Take your chill pill you raging moron ^^^ Is my PWNED little bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, MidnightMax said: ^^^ Is my PWNED little bitch. Everybody knows that pharma was pushing the opioid crisis. Everybody but you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 More than 50,000 overdose deaths: A grim tally soars to all-time U.S. high http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-us-overdose-deaths-20161208-story.html I don't think exhorting people to take personal responsibility is going to solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Quote Big pharma = pushers Yes, they are, but they are not the only ones. Illegal drug users, dealers and distributors are also pushers. The Marijuana growers are also pushers. Why just pick on one - NAIL THEM ALL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Skans said: Why just pick on one Because opioids are physically addictive and have been aggressively marketed to doctors; no one is dying of pot overdose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 We need the Philippine President to come here and be put in charge of rehab of the criminal addicts. His method sure would be a lot cheaper than sending them to SPAs because they have a "drug-in-mouth-disease" rather than being sent to prison for their stupidity and crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, William1444 said: We need the Philippine President to come here and be put in charge of rehab of the criminal addicts. That is sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, slideman said: That is sick. Maybe, but it sure is effective. Ten thousand ass holes who will never do or deal drugs, anymore. Saves a hellofa lot of money not spent on courts, prisons and rehab SPAs. Saves a hellofa lot of lives of victims no longer fucked up by druggies. Of course if you are a dirty cop or a dirty judge, you probably want to keep getting your bribe money. And doctors and drug companies and druggies and pimps want to keep getting rich off of morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middl3 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, slideman said: Because opioids are physically addictive and have been aggressively marketed to doctors; no one is dying of pot overdose. This is totally true. Back almost 5 years ago my BFF was dying of pancreatic cancer....one of the most painful and only a 98% survival rate. They prescribed him Oxy and loads of it. At that same time a few prominent rich white kids got in mommies stash and ODed. So out AG did a state wide war on class 3 drugs..BUT she put it on the backs of the pharmacist. No one could get their scripts unless they had 2 non narcotic scripts to fill and the state kept records of the pharmacist on how many class 3 scripts they filled. To protect their lively hoods the pharmacist would not order the drugs or say they were out got to another pharmacy. So no one was getting their scripts filled. I called the AG and the DEA to find out WTF!! and the DEA told me that basically they are using the pharmacist to control class 3 narcotics. They keep records on how many each one fills and at a certain number they get their licenses revoked. The number was a secret to all but the DEA so these poor pharmacist had no idea when too many was reached so they simply stopped filling them. In other words he told me bla bla bla... The AG..the guy who actually wrote the new bill told me he was unaware his bill affected people in this way and he would have to rethink his position. Well fine I said in the meantime my friend is dying and in severe pain and can not get his meds. My friend lived for only 6 months but it was a major struggle to get his meds filled to the day he died. I have no idea if the rules have been relaxed but I doubt it because I get Xanax which is considered a class 3 narcotic and they will not refill until you use exactly the amount supplied and not a day earlier, plus a DR can only write a script for it up to 3 refills. So restrictions are still in place which is fine but what dump it on the pharmacist? It is the DRs that make the crap available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, William1444 said: And the innocent will suffer with the guilty, no? Cops are going to be judge and jury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, slideman said: And the innocent will suffer with the guilty, no? Cops are going to be judge and jury? Why do you worry about the druggies and the drug dealers, but you do not give a rat's ass about victims and taxpayers? Are you a drug pusher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, William1444 said: You favor extra judicial killing? You are amoral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middl3 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, William1444 said: Why do you worry about the druggies and the drug dealers, but you do not give a rat's ass about victims and taxpayers? Are you a drug pusher? Many you get pancreatic cancer and you will sing a totally different tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 William 1444 may not be the most logical of thinkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, slideman said: You favor extra judicial killing? You are amoral. What do you call bush and cheney and republicans killing tens of thousands of innocent people in iraq including our servicemen just to enrich oil billionaires and the military industrial complex? Taking drugs and killing or robbing from others including as done by bush and republicans is immoral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William1444 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Middl3 said: Many you get pancreatic cancer and you will sing a totally different tune. May you kiss my ass and thereby grow a brain. Responsible doctors prescribing medicines to responsible patients in pain does not fall into the category of drug abuse, you fucking moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, William1444 said: Responsible doctors prescribing medicines to responsible patients in pain does not fall into the category of drug abuse The makers of Oxycontin minimized its addictive potential to doctors. The Promotion and Marketing of OxyContin: Commercial Triumph, Public Health Tragedy https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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