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23 minutes ago, Five By Five said:

We need to abandon health care insurance and start a centralized National Health Care System with a single payer for all.

 

This approach could open the doors wide because it allows consumers the choice to do so or not:

 

Voters should know by now after 70 years politicians have never provided health insurance for the people. Too many on both sides of the aisle take money from the insurance industry and from health care providers. In addition to Wall Street investments.

 

WE voters need the last word aka WE voters need a ballot even a special election if necessary.

 

Voters = democrats,moderate republicans, Green Party thinkers and sensible voters in general Washington DC needs a big push to put choice on the table

and lock it in for a lifetime.

 

To be fair to all in America there is only one way to satisfy the demand for ethical medical insurance coverage. That is by way of  leaving the choice to consumers.

 

In fact a package of choices consisting of three choices is a most exciting package.

 

The estimated $3.4 trillion in existing tax dollars that is being inefficiently spent on health care will most likely cover the cost of Single Payer after all  of the savings come into play which are significant.

 

 Why not put choices on the table? And show veterans and business a little more respect in the process.

 

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE = voting on the entire package thus providing consumers 3 options for the rest of their lives. Which one works best for YOU

 

=== ObamaCare which retains the health insurance industry for those who fear the word Medicare or phrase Single Payer after all it is their dollar. This needs stiff federal regulations that cannot be superceded by the states. Offer a fair tax dollar rebate at the end of every year. Sooner or later this group will enroll in single payer.

 

=== Single Payer Medicare for ALL = excellent coverage for those who wish to enroll. The absolute best choice on planet earth. https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

 

=== Self financed health care for those able to do so aka opt out. Offer a fair tax dollar rebate at the end of every year.

 

=== ALL Disabled vets should receive Medicare with a 100% benefit so they and their families can receive medical care immediately upon discharge. Make it retroactive.

 

=== Business should not be forced to provide health insurance.

 

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Russia has the Trump family by the throat as does Turkey and a few others all through financing agreements. Trump should not be in a position such as the White house or in government at all.

 

Foreign lending institutions own Trump because he cannot obtain loans from American institutions. Of course Putin wants Trump in the White House as does Turkey and China.

 

It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trump’s inability to do either. This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence.

 

Americans have placed vast military power at the discretion of this mind, a presidential discretion that is largely immune to restraint by the Madisonian system of institutional checks and balances.

 

So, it is up to the public to quarantine this presidency by insistently communicating to its elected representatives a steady, rational fear of this man whose combination of impulsivity and credulity render him uniquely unfit to take the nation into a military conflict.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-a-dangerous-disability/2017/05/03/56ca6118-2f6b-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.1869e61262cb

 

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2 hours ago, merrill said:

 

This approach could open the doors wide because it allows consumers the choice to do so or not:

 

Voters should know by now after 70 years politicians have never provided health insurance for the people. Too many on both sides of the aisle take money from the insurance industry and from health care providers. In addition to Wall Street investments.

 

WE voters need the last word aka WE voters need a ballot even a special election if necessary.

 

Voters = democrats,moderate republicans, Green Party thinkers and sensible voters in general Washington DC needs a big push to put choice on the table

and lock it in for a lifetime.

 

To be fair to all in America there is only one way to satisfy the demand for ethical medical insurance coverage. That is by way of  leaving the choice to consumers.

 

In fact a package of choices consisting of three choices is a most exciting package.

 

The estimated $3.4 trillion in existing tax dollars that is being inefficiently spent on health care will most likely cover the cost of Single Payer after all  of the savings come into play which are significant.

 

 Why not put choices on the table? And show veterans and business a little more respect in the process.

 

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE = voting on the entire package thus providing consumers 3 options for the rest of their lives. Which one works best for YOU

 

=== ObamaCare which retains the health insurance industry for those who fear the word Medicare or phrase Single Payer after all it is their dollar. This needs stiff federal regulations that cannot be superceded by the states. Offer a fair tax dollar rebate at the end of every year. Sooner or later this group will enroll in single payer.

 

=== Single Payer Medicare for ALL = excellent coverage for those who wish to enroll. The absolute best choice on planet earth. https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

 

=== Self financed health care for those able to do so aka opt out. Offer a fair tax dollar rebate at the end of every year.

 

=== ALL Disabled vets should receive Medicare with a 100% benefit so they and their families can receive medical care immediately upon discharge. Make it retroactive.

 

=== Business should not be forced to provide health insurance.

 

 

Why shouldn't law enforcement be interested in a man who got bailed out of bankruptcy through Russian crime bosses?

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/donald-trump-was-bailed-out-bankruptcy-russia-crime-bosses

 

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2 hours ago, Five By Five said:

We need to abandon health care insurance and start a centralized National Health Care System with a single payer for all.

 

 

2 hours ago, kfools said:

Just a guess.

That would be of great benefit to you. Even if you got it at my expense you would still be for it right?

 

.....Kind o' like any other MUCH-less-expensive/not-for-profit insurance, right??

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, dontlooknow said:

why is medicare cheaper??

 

 

3 hours ago, kfools said:

Because it's paid for by tax dollars duh! 

 

 

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BILL MOYERS: Why is public insurance, a public option, so fiercely opposed by the industry?

 

WENDELL POTTER: The industry doesn't want to have any competitor. In fact, over the course of the last few years, has been shrinking the number of competitors through a lot of acquisitions and mergers. So first of all, they don't want any more competition period. They certainly don't want it from a government plan that might be operating more efficiently than they are, that they operate. The Medicare program that we have here is a government-run program that has administrative expenses that are like three percent or so.

 

BILL MOYERS: Compared to the industry's--

 

WENDELL POTTER: They spend about 20 cents of every premium dollar on overhead, which is administrative expense or profit. So they don't want to compete against a more efficient competitor.

 

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/transcript2.html

 

 

 

 

Why do "conservatives" insist on being SO FUCKIN' OBTUSE??!!!!

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