BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/11/09/usa-media-ignores-historic-prime-time-broadcast-of-official-beijing-welcome-for-president-trump/ Quote USA Media Ignores Historic Prime Time Broadcast of Official Beijing Welcome For President Trump… In 1989 the communist regime of China delivered one of the more infamous authoritarian displays of brutality in modern history. The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, commonly known in mainland China as the June Fourth Incident, were student-led demonstrations in Beijing, the capital of the People’s Republic of China. In response the communist regime crushed the student uprising and hundreds were massacred. Almost thirty years later, it’s now 2017, and in the exact same place, on the exact same streets, the Chinese government played the U.S. national anthem while broadcasting -for the first time ever- to their own country: the welcoming ceremony of a state visit by a U.S. President and First Lady at the Grand Hall of the People’s Republic of China. During prime time TV viewing (8:30pm EST) you would think this historic moment, this historic contrast (liberty crushed / liberty celebrated), should easily garner U.S. media attention. You might think that, but you would be wrong. Actual trumpets sounded the regalia as a U.S. President exited the limousine in front of the Great Hall; but not a single U.S. network, broadcast or cable, showed the historic moments of the ceremony when President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump arrived. Thirty years ago, China was controlling broadcasts and hiding uncomfortable events on that location. In 2017 it’s the U.S. media apparatus doing the hiding. I think the time has come to do something about the leftist American media. They are now a threat to our continued freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 China is a totalitarian society. I could give a fuck about their fanfare for Trump, who would like to see the US be more like China- as would you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, slideman said: China is a totalitarian society. I could give a fuck about their fanfare for Trump, who would like to see the US be more like China- as would you. Yes, you are a dishonest IDIOT, slideman. You prove it with almost every post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 China is a free society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Suppression of a free press, which you seem to be advocating is straight out of the totalitarian handbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemajikman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, slideman said: China is a totalitarian society. I could give a fuck about their fanfare for Trump, who would like to see the US be more like China- as would you. No it is not. You show your ignorance when you make statements like the one above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 China is free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Black is white? Only in the mind of a right winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 regulatory agencies, such as the General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) and the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television (SARFT), continue to set strict regulations on subjects considered taboo by the government, including but not limited to the legitimacy of the Communist Party, government policies in Tibet and Xinjiang, pornography, and the banned religious topics, such as the Dalai Lama and the Falun Gong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_China Ypu'd like us to follow their example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemajikman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 minute ago, slideman said: China is free? For capitalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, slideman said: China is a free society? Yes, you are a dishonest IDIOT, slideman. You prove it with almost every post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, slideman said: Suppression of a free press, which you seem to be advocating is straight out of the totalitarian handbook. Yes, you are a dishonest IDIOT, slideman. You prove it with almost every post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, Whitemajikman said: For capitalists. You are deluded. China is not free. Trump is a tool of Communist propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Quote I think the time has come to do something about the leftist American media. They are now a threat to our continued freedom. What do you propose? (FWIW, I like the feature that gets rid of huge bright lettering and wacky fonts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemajikman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, slideman said: regulatory agencies, such as the General Administration of Press and Publication (GAPP) and the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television (SARFT), continue to set strict regulations on subjects considered taboo by the government, including but not limited to the legitimacy of the Communist Party, government policies in Tibet and Xinjiang, pornography, and the banned religious topics, such as the Dalai Lama and the Falun Gong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_China Ypu'd like us to follow their example? We already are. Just look at how congress wants to limit free speech of news organizations like RT and sputnik. It has begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemajikman Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, slideman said: You are deluded. China is not free. Trump is a tool of Communist propaganda. Funny I made a shitload over the last 10 years in China. China is open for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 57 minutes ago, Skans said: What do you propose? I'd impose financial penalties on any media outlet that knowingly broadcasts untruths affecting the nation as if they were facts. The size of the penalty should be a function of how great the threat to society the lie is judged to be. A commission composed of ordinary people could be chosen at random from the populace to judge the evidence and determine the penalty (within some guidelines). Being a believer in the First Amendment, I wouldn't stop the media from broadcasting their lies, but there would be severe penalties if they are proven to be lies of significance. In my view, if the left can reasonably assert that a clear statement in the Constitution saying "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" allows regulating that right in very significant ways, then I can reasonably assert that the statement "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" allows regulation like I suggest. After all, recently leftists have used *regulation* rather than law to *transform* large sectors of our economy and society ... in health care, the environment, education, and so forth. So the precedent for what I suggest is there. As Supreme Court Justice Robert H Jackson indicated, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. As he said, "The choice is not between order and liberty. It is between liberty with order and anarchy without either. There is danger that, if the court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact." What the media is doing now is endangering our society ... spreading lies, creating chaos and hatred, and outright being seditious by presenting material they know or should know (if they are doing their job) to be false, as if it were fact ... in order to create the news rather than just report it. Now the press can already be sued for publishing something false about a person. And the liability in doing that is severe enough that most media are very careful about what they publish in that regard (except where it comes to Trump, it seems). So I see no reason why the government can't impose fines or even sue the press for publishing false material that endangers our society? The Supreme Court has already ruled that the first Amendment does not give one the right to endanger society. You can't scream fire in a theater just for fun or because you want to see the movie alone. So I say let the media defend themselves in court in some of these cases. Let the media face a regulatory board with the ability to impose large fines for every instance in which they knowing lie in a manner that arguably might endanger our society in a significant way. The details can be worked out but I think the precedent for doing the above is already there. And given the lefts attacks on the 2nd Amendment, I don't think they have a leg to stand on with which to complain about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Quote A commission composed of ordinary people could be chosen at random from the populace to judge the evidence and determine the penalty Isn't that very similar to a libel lawsuit? Can't those who the media tells lies about already sue them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Skans said: Can't those who the media tells lies about already sue them? People can. Corporations can, because they are considered people. But currently, public bodies (like the government) are judged not to have that right. This prohibition isn't written in the Constitution or a federal law. It's just a principle of common law carried down from old England. I propose that be changed. I think it's in interest of the people ... of society ... to have the government make sure that the "news" they are getting is accurate and not slanted by a political (or other) agenda. Not by banning fake news but by encouraging ... through regulation and steep fines ... the publishing of truthful, unbiased news. Because good, reliable information is the foundation of any free society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arris Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, BeAChooser said: I'd impose financial penalties on any media outlet that knowingly broadcasts untruths affecting the nation as if they were facts. The size of the penalty should be a function of how great the threat to society the lie is judged to be. Guess fox news will be out of business due to the penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeJerk Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 9 hours ago, slideman said: China is a totalitarian society. I could give a fuck about their fanfare for Trump, who would like to see the US be more like China- as would you. Actually they're not. They're more like the Fascists you wish Trump's gov't was like. Thanks for playing. kj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 The title is absurd. Neither BBC America nor PBS ignored Trumkp's arrival in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Arris said: Guess fox news will be out of business due to the penalties If so, so be it. But I bet a bunch of other networks precede them into bankruptcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, XavierOnassis said: The title is absurd. Neither BBC America nor PBS ignored Trumkp's arrival in China. The BBC is not a US network and PBS isn't a network or cable ... it's government TV. Also ... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-calls-on-china-to-do-more-on-north-korea-ahead-of-high-stakes-visit Wow, massive coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Five By Five said: I create stress when there is none LOL we agree on something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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