shintao Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Getting Democrats off their ass maybe coming shortly as a Billionaire puts his money into the game. 'Waiting is a mistake': the billionaire pushing lawmakers to impeach Trump Tom Steyer, a prominent Democratic patron, is running an outspoken ad campaign that’s got the president riled up. Democrats have long trod carefully around the “I” word. But as the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s election victory approaches, a prominent donor is pressuring lawmakers and candidates on the left to make impeachment a central message of their campaigns in 2018. In October, Tom Steyer, a billionaire hedge fund manager turned environmental activist, launched a “eight-figure” ad campaign demanding that elected officials and candidates in his party “take a stand” on removing Trump from office. “The fact of the matter is that we believe he is dangerous to the American people now,” Steyer told the Guardian. “We believe that waiting is a mistake and we believe the events that will occur over the next year will show that we are right.” Steyer – who said he is “not ruling out” running for office himself in 2018 – has a list of reasons why he believes Trump should be impeached, which he has also outlined in a letter to congressional lawmakers. He says Trump has put the country on a path toward nuclear war, obstructed justice by firing the FBI director, James Comey, violated the emoluments clause by taking money from foreign governments, and threatened to close news organizations whose reporting he doesn’t like. That list, he noted, was created before the news last week that special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian had yielded two indictments and a guilty plea. “This campaign is a reflection of the fact that we are in a crisis and that is not how it’s represented in the press and that is not how it’s reflected in Washington,” Steyer said. He added that the indictments of Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and another aide, Rick Gates, and guilty plea by a former adviser, George Papadopoulos, “clearly put impeachment on the table”. Steyer’s campaign has drawn rebuke from the president. After the ad played during a segment on Fox & Friends, a show Trump regularly watches, the president lashed out. “I think the fact that he responded so defensively actually drew more attention to what we were trying to do,” Steyer said. “And to that I say, ‘Thank you.’ If he wants to tweet angrily at us, we would encourage him to do that as much as I can.” The TV and digital ads will run in all 50 states, the campaign said. And many liberals outside California, where Steyer lives, his digital and TV ads will be their first introduction to the Democratic patron. Starring in ads, Steyer calls Trump a “clear and present danger” and calmly lays out what he views is a case for impeachment. A petition accompanying the campaign has already gathered more than 1.5 million signatures, he said. “A Republican Congress once impeached a president for far less,” Steyer says in the ad, referring to Bill Clinton. “Yet today people in Congress and his own administration know that this president is a clear and present danger who’s mentally unstable and armed with nuclear weapons and they do nothing.” Impeachment must begin in the House of Representatives. Steyer argues that voters deserve to know whether congressional Democrats will act if they retake the chamber next year. Only a handful of lawmakers are openly in favor of impeachment. So far, Democratic leaders have urged colleagues to wait for investigators to conclude their work. But in a sign calls for impeachment are gaining traction in Washington, Luis Gutiérrez, a Democrat of Illinois, said last week that a group of Democrats would file articles of impeachment before Thanksgiving. “I think it is time that we begin to have that conversation,” Gutiérrez said during a breakfast at the City Club of Chicago, adding that Trump was an “ill-fit” for the office. Gutiérrez also stressed that the group was working independently and was not supported by Pelosi or the Democratic party. Impeachment is more popular among Democrats than Republicans – making it a particularly good proposal to follow should Steyer run in California, a blue state that has relished its role resisting Trump. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/05/tom-steyer-democrats-impeachment-donald-trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, shintao said: Getting Democrats off their ass maybe coming shortly as a Billionaire puts his money into the game. 'Waiting is a mistake': the billionaire pushing lawmakers to impeach Trump Tom Steyer, a prominent Democratic patron, is running an outspoken ad campaign that’s got the president riled up. Democrats have long trod carefully around the “I” word. But as the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s election victory approaches, a prominent donor is pressuring lawmakers and candidates on the left to make impeachment a central message of their campaigns in 2018. In October, Tom Steyer, a billionaire hedge fund manager turned environmental activist, launched a “eight-figure” ad campaign demanding that elected officials and candidates in his party “take a stand” on removing Trump from office. “The fact of the matter is that we believe he is dangerous to the American people now,” Steyer told the Guardian. “We believe that waiting is a mistake and we believe the events that will occur over the next year will show that we are right.” Steyer – who said he is “not ruling out” running for office himself in 2018 – has a list of reasons why he believes Trump should be impeached, which he has also outlined in a letter to congressional lawmakers. He says Trump has put the country on a path toward nuclear war, obstructed justice by firing the FBI director, James Comey, violated the emoluments clause by taking money from foreign governments, and threatened to close news organizations whose reporting he doesn’t like. That list, he noted, was created before the news last week that special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian had yielded two indictments and a guilty plea. “This campaign is a reflection of the fact that we are in a crisis and that is not how it’s represented in the press and that is not how it’s reflected in Washington,” Steyer said. He added that the indictments of Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and another aide, Rick Gates, and guilty plea by a former adviser, George Papadopoulos, “clearly put impeachment on the table”. Steyer’s campaign has drawn rebuke from the president. After the ad played during a segment on Fox & Friends, a show Trump regularly watches, the president lashed out. “I think the fact that he responded so defensively actually drew more attention to what we were trying to do,” Steyer said. “And to that I say, ‘Thank you.’ If he wants to tweet angrily at us, we would encourage him to do that as much as I can.” The TV and digital ads will run in all 50 states, the campaign said. And many liberals outside California, where Steyer lives, his digital and TV ads will be their first introduction to the Democratic patron. Starring in ads, Steyer calls Trump a “clear and present danger” and calmly lays out what he views is a case for impeachment. A petition accompanying the campaign has already gathered more than 1.5 million signatures, he said. “A Republican Congress once impeached a president for far less,” Steyer says in the ad, referring to Bill Clinton. “Yet today people in Congress and his own administration know that this president is a clear and present danger who’s mentally unstable and armed with nuclear weapons and they do nothing.” Impeachment must begin in the House of Representatives. Steyer argues that voters deserve to know whether congressional Democrats will act if they retake the chamber next year. Only a handful of lawmakers are openly in favor of impeachment. So far, Democratic leaders have urged colleagues to wait for investigators to conclude their work. But in a sign calls for impeachment are gaining traction in Washington, Luis Gutiérrez, a Democrat of Illinois, said last week that a group of Democrats would file articles of impeachment before Thanksgiving. “I think it is time that we begin to have that conversation,” Gutiérrez said during a breakfast at the City Club of Chicago, adding that Trump was an “ill-fit” for the office. Gutiérrez also stressed that the group was working independently and was not supported by Pelosi or the Democratic party. Impeachment is more popular among Democrats than Republicans – making it a particularly good proposal to follow should Steyer run in California, a blue state that has relished its role resisting Trump. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/05/tom-steyer-democrats-impeachment-donald-trump That would be crazy. The last impeachment vote was Clinton. Been awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, dontlooknow said: Its coming. Doubt it. Never have the votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shintao Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, dontlooknow said: Hope he spends more money. I think he will. I think it is up to libs to get on our Dem reps and tell them if we don't hear the words Impeach Tramp, they lose our votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, shintao said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintao Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, CrookedHillary said: Doubt it. Never have the votes. a simple majority is needed for the impeachment process, which means 218 representatives would have to vote yay in order to confirm impeachment . The senate, ultimately, acts as the jury. In order for the president to be removed from office, in this case, it would require a two-thirds vote (67) among the 100 senators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, shintao said: a simple majority is needed for the impeachment process, which means 218 representatives would have to vote yay in order to confirm impeachment . The senate, ultimately, acts as the jury. In order for the president to be removed from office, in this case, it would require a two-thirds vote (67) among the 100 senators. Right, it won't happen but you can cling to hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, shintao said: a simple majority is needed for the impeachment process, which means 218 representatives would have to vote yay in order to confirm impeachment . The senate, ultimately, acts as the jury. In order for the president to be removed from office, in this case, it would require a two-thirds vote (67) among the 100 senators. AND HILLARY WAS GONNA WIN LANDSLIDE ACCORDING TO YOU.........BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "WHERES THAT WALL" YOU ASKED BEFORE INAUGURATION.BEING BUILT BITCH.......BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU =COMPLETE FAIL ON EVERYTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintao Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, CrookedHillary said: Right, it won't happen but you can cling to hope. It doesn't even have to occur the first time out. It plants the seeds, it awakes Americans to what is going on, the controversy . The media have a love feast. Why hasn't the GOP acted, etc. Tramp raging day by day on Tweeter. And of course, anything is possible. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed, connect the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, shintao said: It doesn't even have to occur the first time out. It plants the seeds, it awakes Americans to what is going on, the controversy . The media have a love feast. Why hasn't the GOP acted, etc. Tramp raging day by day on Tweeter. And of course, anything is possible. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed, connect the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, shintao said: It doesn't even have to occur the first time out. It plants the seeds, it awakes Americans to what is going on, the controversy . The media have a love feast. Why hasn't the GOP acted, etc. Tramp raging day by day on Tweeter. And of course, anything is possible. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed, connect the dots. Yeah, it won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, shintao said: It doesn't even have to occur the first time out. It plants the seeds, it awakes Americans to what is going on, the controversy . The media have a love feast. Why hasn't the GOP acted, etc. Tramp raging day by day on Tweeter. And of course, anything is possible. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed, connect the dots. Hell, Reagan had 138 people arrested during his time with democrats in Congress and Senate for 2 years and didn't impeach him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemoMan Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, CrookedHillary said: That would be crazy. The last impeachment vote was Clinton. Been awhile. And that failed impeachment was shown to be a baseless and traitorous attempt by cons done simply to regain power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Just now, DemoMan said: And that failed impeachment was shown to be a baseless and traitorous attempt by cons done simply to regain power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTZilla Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, shintao said: I think he will. I think it is up to libs to get on our Dem reps and tell them if we don't hear the words Impeach Tramp, they lose our votes. you already lost 1000 seats ,, i say go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrookedHillary Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, DemoMan said: And that failed impeachment was shown to be a baseless and traitorous attempt by cons done simply to regain power. No, many people in the country were upset. The Senate squashed it though in the end. It passed the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123urout Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, DemoMan said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, DemoMan said: And that failed impeachment was shown to be a baseless and traitorous attempt by cons done simply to regain power. He was impeached by the House. It was not baseless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 hours ago, JTZilla said: you already lost 1000 seats ,, i say go for it +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z09 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 hours ago, shintao said: It doesn't even have to occur the first time out. It plants the seeds, it awakes Americans to what is going on, the controversy . The media have a love feast. Why hasn't the GOP acted, etc. Tramp raging day by day on Tweeter. And of course, anything is possible. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed, connect the dots. Every time you lose you want impeachment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 GERRYMANDERING you must be soooo proud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiseler Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Can't blame Trump for this one. Maybe you libs need to put down the bongs for a bit because all you're running with are pipe dreams.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughinAtLefty Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 LOL.....these threads are always good for a laugh. Waaaaa......we didn't get the Queen of Corruption for our President. Get a job bums.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slideman Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The Trump team has retreated from “no one on the campaign” to “the president while he was a candidate” didn’t directly meet with a Russian. Because every possible step of motive, means, and execution has been filled in. The Trump campaign was made aware that the Russians had stolen emails from Democratic sources months before anyone else knew, via George Papadopoulos. The Trump campaign was offered this material, and told that it was part of a Russian government plan to assist Trump, in an email exchange between Rob Goldstone and Donald Trump Jr. The Trump campaign was given details on what Russia wanted in exchange for their stolen goods in a meeting between Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and representatives of the Russian government with Natalia Veselnitskaya acting as the spokesperson. The Trump campaign agreed to Russia’s terms, and was rewarded with the release of the stolen information through Wikileaks—which Donald Trump personally used to gain advantage in the campaign. Everything else—from the many instances of money laundering to whatever Jefferson Sessions was discussing in his multiple meetings with the Russian ambassador—is strictly for the “other charges” section of the inevitable indictments. For those who are rushing forward to say that “collusion” is not a crime … wrong. There may be no crime named “collusion,” but accepting something of value from a foreign government in the course of a campaign is definitely a violation of US law. There’s a law both against foreign nationals making a contribution. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. And against US nationals accepting that contribution. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/6/1713101/-Donald-Trump-Jr-told-Russians-that-Trump-would-review-the-Magnisky-Act-If-we-come-to-power I don't think he'll be impeached. He will resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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