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One of the many positives in this proposal. EVs should survive on their own. Federal taxpayers should not have to GIVE $7500 to buyers of these vehicles. EVs should survive (or not) on merit.

 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/mobility/2017/11/02/tax-credit-loss-hurt-sales-affordable-electric-cars/107284074/

 

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As General Motors Co. and other automakers bet big on all-electric futures, House Republicans want to eliminate the $7,500 per vehicle federal tax credit intended to bolster consumer interest in electric vehicles.

The repeal, which would take effect in 2018 as part of the GOP tax bill, poses a threat to the growth of the emerging electric-vehicle market, especially at the lower end of the price scale.

“This will hurt the few automakers who have been the leaders in the field,” said Xavier Mosquet, senior partner at Boston Consulting Group, a global management firm and business strategy adviser with an office in Troy. “It will be OK for the very premium vehicles, but for vehicles at more affordable prices, the incentives are a driver.”

The Chevrolet Bolt and the Tesla Model 3 are the two mass-market all-electric cars that would be hurt the most.

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3 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Of course, massive donations from big oil to the GOP had nothing to do with this.... :rolleyes:

 

 

Did it?

 

Shouldn't need any incentive to get rid of unconstitutional re-distribution like the example give.

 

Make a car that provides VALUE and people will buy it, regardless if it is powered by gas, electric or water....

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7 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Of course, massive donations from big oil to the GOP had nothing to do with this.... :rolleyes:

 

 

 

So government picking WINNERS and LOSERS is somehow good how exactly????

 

Fact is, you should make EVERYONE compete on the SAME LEVEL PLAYING FIELD and since EV's don't, it's time they DID!!!

 

These "tax payments" are nothing more than UNCONSTITUTIONAL BULLSHIT from the get get- go matter WHAT party thought it up.

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2 minutes ago, superds77 said:

Did it?

 

Shouldn't need any incentive to get rid of unconstitutional re-distribution like the example give.

 

Make a car that provides VALUE and people will buy it, regardless if it is powered by gas, electric or water....

Electric cars would have been perfected and mass produced by now if it wasn't for big oil's influence.    

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Just now, RollingRock said:

Electric cars would have been perfected and mass produced by now if it wasn't for big oil's influence.    

Yeah sure.^_^

 

ICEs are vastly more efficient. On that, there is no debate.

 

What about that carburetor that could help get 100 mpg? Or the car that runs on water. I think those have been held back as well.

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7 minutes ago, RollingRock said:

Electric cars would have been perfected and mass produced by now if it wasn't for big oil's influence.    

 

No, EV's would be perfected and mass produced IF it were possible to actually have them as a long distant and DEPENDABLE form of transportation.

 

And since they have been trying for OVER 100 years to do just that, you would THINK that you and the rest of the shitstain bunch would come to realize that it's simply NOT going to happen regardless of what "influence" there might be from anyone.

 

But keep wishing in that OTHER hand and you can clean out the shit filled one a bunch until you get your little wish.

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i'm glad I bought my leaf while the subsidies were in place. EV"S are more efficient than ICE's

All-Electric Vehicles

All-electric vehicles (EVs) run on electricity only. They are propelled by one or more electric motors powered by rechargeable battery packs. EVs have several advantages over conventional vehicles:

Energy efficient. EVs convert about 59%–62% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 17%–21% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.*

Environmentally friendly. EVs emit no tailpipe pollutants, although the power plant producing the electricity may emit them. Electricity from nuclear-, hydro-, solar-, or wind-powered plants causes no air pollutants.

Performance benefits. Electric motors provide quiet, smooth operation and stronger acceleration and require less maintenance than internal combustion engines (ICEs).

Reduced energy dependence. Electricity is a domestic energy source.

EVs do, however, face significant battery-related challenges:

Driving range. Range is typically limited to 60 to 120 miles on a full charge although a few models can go 200 to 300 miles.

Recharge time. Fully recharging the battery pack can take 4 to 8 hours. Even a "fast charge" to 80% capacity can take 30 min.

Battery cost: The large battery packs are expensive and may need to be replaced one or more times.

Bulk & weight: Battery packs are heavy and take up considerable space.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml

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