merrill Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 How many other ways are the middle class getting hosed? WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE NOT GOP? To serial liars like Donald Trump, nothing poses a greater threat than the cold, hard truth. They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people! Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill Like it or not we old school republicans need to stop voting the republican ticket because ultra conservatives took over our party through unethical methods. Big reckless spending and monster lies. Time for all of us to break ranks with the GOP. Not voting is the same as voting for ALEC and a very radical right wing government. BIG DOLLAR ALEC DARK MONEY TRAIL IS EVERYWHERE. The ALEC War ON America: --- War against Medical Insurance and Single Payer --- War on public education and Higher Education --- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics --- War against women --- War on Voters Rights --- War on strict gun regulations --- War On National Monuments/Parks --- War on the USA Postal Service --- War On Environmental Cleanliness --- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation --- War On USA Jobs aka Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams --- War On Social Security Insurance --- War On Medicaid --- War On Medicare --- War for Oil Control Worldwide --- War on truth about global warming/climate change http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/ Union of Concerned Scientists http://www.ucsusa.org Corporate Welfare Profiteering http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/alec-the-voice-of-corporate-special-interests-in-state-legislatures/#Voter Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill === Pay close attention to this 24/7 organized activity :http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic --- How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeWAVE Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 56 minutes ago, dontlooknow said: It aint as bad as it could be. Now if it will pass is another story. HA!! Well, the last time it was done under Reagan, it caused the economy to BOOM for 7 years... and ushered in one of the longest periods of prosperity on record... This WILL pass... It EVEN has a bone for the Democrats... NO reduction in taxes for anyone making over $1 million/year... Republicans have historically been advocates of tax breaks for EVERYONE... But, this time, with Donald Trumps blessing, they capped them at $1 million... Personally, I'm OK with it... it looks like a GREAT plan, and will usher in the BIGGEST period of prosperity since Reagan and Clinton.. and MAYBE the biggest ever !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussianDisinformation Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Most Economists Agree: Trump Tax Plan Will Widen Budget Deficit ... Study: Trump budget would increase debt | TheHill Asshole Trump's tax breaks for the filthy rich will increase both the debt and deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeJerk Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Most Economists Agree: Trump Tax Plan Will Widen Budget Deficit By Rich Miller and Kyungjin Yoo September 28, 2017, 1:35 PM PDT Study: Trump budget would increase debt By Niv Elis - 07/12/17 02:13 PM EDT Quote Rather than reducing the deficit, the tax framework Trump and congressional leaders released on Wednesday could add $2.2 trillion to the gap through 2027, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, an advocacy group. Rather than stroking yourselves silly on old news ... The static economic Tax Policy Center Report that all the Desperate DemocRat Shills are using By KneeJerk, October 24 in No Holds Barred Political Forum The Report ... from these guys ... http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/preliminary-analysis-unified-framework/full A PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF THE UNIFIED FRAMEWORK TPC Staff September29,2017 ABSTRACT The Tax Policy Center has produced preliminary estimates of the potential impact of proposals included in the “Unified Framework for Fixing Our Broken Tax Code.” We find they would reduce federal revenue by $ 2 .4 trillion over ten yearsand $ 3 .2 trillion over the second decade (not including any dynamic feedback). (not including any dynamic feedback). Static economics ... the Soviets didn't even do that in their five year plans. Poor Desperate DemocRat Shills. Still using the same debunked report. "Why are liberals such desperate democRat shills?" "She's talking about you ... BUGWIT !!!" "Fuck you bennie ... she's talking about merrill and this Russian troll." kj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 11 hours ago, merrill said: How many other ways are the middle class getting hosed? WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE NOT GOP? To serial liars like Donald Trump, nothing poses a greater threat than the cold, hard truth. They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people! Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill Like it or not we old school republicans need to stop voting the republican ticket because ultra conservatives took over our party through unethical methods. Big reckless spending and monster lies. Time for all of us to break ranks with the GOP. Not voting is the same as voting for ALEC and a very radical right wing government. BIG DOLLAR ALEC DARK MONEY TRAIL IS EVERYWHERE. The ALEC War ON America: --- War against Medical Insurance and Single Payer --- War on public education and Higher Education --- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics --- War against women --- War on Voters Rights --- War on strict gun regulations --- War On National Monuments/Parks --- War on the USA Postal Service --- War On Environmental Cleanliness --- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation --- War On USA Jobs aka Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams --- War On Social Security Insurance --- War On Medicaid --- War On Medicare --- War for Oil Control Worldwide --- War on truth about global warming/climate change http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/ Union of Concerned Scientists http://www.ucsusa.org Corporate Welfare Profiteering http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/alec-the-voice-of-corporate-special-interests-in-state-legislatures/#Voter Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill === Pay close attention to this 24/7 organized activity :http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic --- How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/ What is the equal comparison of the genetic middle class with the social economic middle class? Parents vs those obeying the rules of societal evolution without questioning the beliefs life comes and goes beyond the moment here as defined artistically and academically directed politically and spiritually through social justifications around the philosophies of "not with us you stand against everyone playing a role in sustaining a make believe reality as a cast of people defending ideology protecting denial by theory or theology and science fiction or spiritual fantasy.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 "They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people!" thats why gop Hate radio and Foxaganda were created....rightwing BS for the Dumb and easily manipulated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, benson13 said: "They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people!" thats why gop Hate radio and Foxaganda were created....rightwing BS for the Dumb and easily manipulated Define "they" and "people" cast into socially justified pretenses of anything else is possible be it interpreted by left, right, leaderships, fellowships directing social outcomes of all incoming ancestry each generated lifetime added in the moment here? You play a game of segregated ideologies through recited context of beliefs now isn't being eternally separated details as kinetically existing simultaneously here as spontaneously living as one of a kind. You are a genetic malcontent to living as self evidently here and made a career at making sure nobody wants to understand more than you choose to believe possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 "I’m reminded of something Slate’s Jordan Weissmann wrote several months ago: “Tax reform is in many ways just as complicated and politically unwieldly. And at the moment, the president isn’t demonstrating any kind of firm grasp on the single topic that has defined the debate so far…. Trump’s intellectual vacuum could end up swallowing his whole party’s agenda.” Trump reportedly wants to name GOP tax plan the ‘Cut Cut Cut Act’ http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-reportedly-wants-name-gop-tax-plan-the-cut-cut-cut-act?cid=eml_mra_20171102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benson13 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Sole...get into Drug Rehab...asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavierOnassis Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said: HA!! Well, the last time it was done under Reagan, it caused the economy to BOOM for 7 years... and ushered in one of the longest periods of prosperity on record... This WILL pass... It EVEN has a bone for the Democrats... NO reduction in taxes for anyone making over $1 million/year... Republicans have historically been advocates of tax breaks for EVERYONE... But, this time, with Donald Trumps blessing, they capped them at $1 million... Personally, I'm OK with it... it looks like a GREAT plan, and will usher in the BIGGEST period of prosperity since Reagan and Clinton.. and MAYBE the biggest ever !! OF COURSE you are OK with it, because you have over five million dollars and you plan to die soon and do not want your corpse to pay the inheritance tax. The rest of it won't benefit anyone. What a crock of shit Trump is! What a crock of shit ConservativeKNAVE is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix68 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said: HA!! Well, the last time it was done under Reagan, it caused the economy to BOOM for 7 years... and ushered in one of the longest periods of prosperity on record... https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1981/12/the-education-of-david-stockman/305760/?single_page=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix68 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said: HA!! Well, the last time it was done under Reagan, it caused the economy to BOOM for 7 years... and ushered in one of the longest periods of prosperity on record... Quote November 20, 2002 "Like most people in Washington, Clinton understood that Ronald Reagan was a figurehead and that it was really the Bush Cabal, which was running things for all of those 12 years. He also understood that the Bush Cabal had perpetrated the greatest fraud ever committed against the American people and that the Bush Cabal had essentially destroyed the economy of the United States - which in fact they had." http://news4florida.tripod.com/indexfraud.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix68 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said: HA!! Well, the last time it was done under Reagan, it caused the economy to BOOM for 7 years... and ushered in one of the longest periods of prosperity on record... Quote "Not only was the entire national deficit eliminated after raising taxes on the wealthy in 1993, but the economy grew so fast for the remainder of the decade that many conservative economists thought that the Fed should raise the prime interest rate in order to slow it down." http://www.kellysite.net/taxes.html https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Oh, this is a hosing that will continue to give and give take and take for a long time to come. I have seen all of the income inequality stats that have show how badly we have been hurt over the last 40 years..... It is now incredibly low and Trump is passing measures to MAKE THE GAP DEEPEN and FESTER. It will be far worse than it is now in 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrill Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 5:46 PM, merrill said: How many other ways are the middle class getting hosed? WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE NOT GOP? To serial liars like Donald Trump, nothing poses a greater threat than the cold, hard truth. They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people! Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill Like it or not we old school republicans need to stop voting the republican ticket because ultra conservatives took over our party through unethical methods. Big reckless spending and monster lies. Time for all of us to break ranks with the GOP. Not voting is the same as voting for ALEC and a very radical right wing government. BIG DOLLAR ALEC DARK MONEY TRAIL IS EVERYWHERE. The ALEC War ON America: --- War against Medical Insurance and Single Payer --- War on public education and Higher Education --- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics --- War against women --- War on Voters Rights --- War on strict gun regulations --- War On National Monuments/Parks --- War on the USA Postal Service --- War On Environmental Cleanliness --- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation --- War On USA Jobs aka Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams --- War On Social Security Insurance --- War On Medicaid --- War On Medicare --- War for Oil Control Worldwide --- War on truth about global warming/climate change http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/ Union of Concerned Scientists http://www.ucsusa.org Corporate Welfare Profiteering http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/alec-the-voice-of-corporate-special-interests-in-state-legislatures/#Voter Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill === Pay close attention to this 24/7 organized activity :http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic --- How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/ bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sole result Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 6:46 PM, merrill said: How many other ways are the middle class getting hosed? WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE NOT GOP? To serial liars like Donald Trump, nothing poses a greater threat than the cold, hard truth. They win elections by preying on people who are not equipped with the information they need to make informed, reasoned decisions. Don’t let yourself be one of those people! Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill Like it or not we old school republicans need to stop voting the republican ticket because ultra conservatives took over our party through unethical methods. Big reckless spending and monster lies. Time for all of us to break ranks with the GOP. Not voting is the same as voting for ALEC and a very radical right wing government. BIG DOLLAR ALEC DARK MONEY TRAIL IS EVERYWHERE. The ALEC War ON America: --- War against Medical Insurance and Single Payer --- War on public education and Higher Education --- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics --- War against women --- War on Voters Rights --- War on strict gun regulations --- War On National Monuments/Parks --- War on the USA Postal Service --- War On Environmental Cleanliness --- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation --- War On USA Jobs aka Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams --- War On Social Security Insurance --- War On Medicaid --- War On Medicare --- War for Oil Control Worldwide --- War on truth about global warming/climate change http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/ Union of Concerned Scientists http://www.ucsusa.org Corporate Welfare Profiteering http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/alec-the-voice-of-corporate-special-interests-in-state-legislatures/#Voter Bill Moyers on the Secretive Corporate-Legislative Body Writing Our Laws http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/27/the_united_states_of_alec_bill === Pay close attention to this 24/7 organized activity :http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic --- How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/ What is the middle class between ruling elites and humanity's social outcasts? those orchestrating a chain of command between households and global economics regardless their positions in art, academia, politics, .spiritualism, social justification, symbolic power and fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Craig234 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Phoenix, where did you find that article about the Bush presidency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig234 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, merrill said: bump merrill, very good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 And right now, Republicans seem genuinely spooked by the possibility that the public will conclude that their tax cut is little more than a gigantic giveaway to corporations and the wealthy. This is a well-grounded fear: It is, in fact, a gigantic giveaway to corporations and the wealthy, and polls show the public doesn’t believe corporations and the wealthy desperately need relief from the oppressive burden of taxation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Finally and perhaps most importantly, Republicans will be opening up a loophole for the rich to cut their tax bills that’s so big you could drive a Mercedes-Maybach S-Class Pullman through it. They plan to introduce a new 25 percent rate for “pass-through” income for businesses that pay all their profits to individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I would like to discuss the Estate Tax part of Trump's tax plan. I'm trying to find a summary of its provisions..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The estate provisions would cost the Treasury an estimated $172.2 billion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. The bill summary is available here. This will hand away trillions to those that least need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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