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Lets be CLEAR... Manifort was advising the Ukraine... THEY do NOT consider themselves "Russian"... I guess it doesn't fit the Liberal Narrative though !!

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48 minutes ago, ConservativeWAVE said:

I predict the charges are a bit NOTHING, especially in regard to Trump/Russian collusion... It's a BIG NOTHING Burger !!

So did Tramp hire Manafort for his campaign?

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Ukraine has been part of Russia since the year 882. The first Czar ruled a country known as the Kievian Rus, whose capital was Kiev, now the capital of Ukraine.

Russian and Ukrainian are mutually intelligible dialects  of the same language.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'

The USSR separated Byelorussia  and Ukraine into Soviet republics separate from the Russian Federation in the 1920's. Nikita Khrushchev, who was Ukrainian, added Crimeato Ukraine in the 1950', but its people do not consist of a majority of Russians or Ukrainians.

 

Since 1991, Ukraine has has exceedingly corrupt governments of both the right (pro-Russian) and the left (pro-EU). Many Russian speakers in Ukraine feel they have been persecuted, and many Ukrainian speakers feel they are mistreated in the areas in which the Russians have more influence.  The west of Ukraine is more pro- EU, the east is more pro Russian.

 

This is not about US liberals or conservatives.

It is pretty stupid for the US to get involved on either side.

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10 minutes ago, theLion said:

 

Seeing as that report is from one of the HUBS of FAKE NEWS, I'll have to verify the pro-Russian aspect of the "Ukraine" elements that Manifort represented... However, the MOST IMPORTANT points are:

 

1)  ALL of the allegations happened LONG before Trump ran, or even announced,  for president.. and

 

2)  The fact that Manifort DID NOT disclose that he had ties was WHY he was FIRED by Trump in the summer of 2016 in the FIRST place,

 

Nothing in ANY of the current allegations implicates Donald trump of ANYTHING !!  Unlike the FBI investigations that were disclosed last week do to implicate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Eric Hilder, Bob Mueller, and James Comey !!

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7 minutes ago, shintao said:

So did Tramp hire Manafort for his campaign?

 

1)  ALL of the allegations happened LONG before Trump ran, or even announced,  for president.. and

 

2)  The fact that Manifort DID NOT disclose that he had ties was WHY he was FIRED by Trump in the summer of 2016 in the FIRST place,

 

Nothing in ANY of the current allegations implicates Donald trump of ANYTHING !!  Unlike the FBI investigations that were disclosed

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ConservativeKNAVE is a lightweight who only regurgitates rightwing crap. He is here only to be a pest and to show how utterly ignorant a person can be. He belongs in the Isles of Iggy.

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21 minutes ago, shintao said:

So did Tramp hire Manafort for his campaign?

Yes.  So what?   Is there something illegal about that action?   

If so, please post the law.

 

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Just now, lucifershammer said:

What manafort did was illegal.  Did trump know? Only time will tell

The investigation goes on. Two small fry. 

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9 minutes ago, lucifershammer said:

What manafort did was illegal.  Did trump know? Only time will tell

Manafort had never been arrested prior to today.   Do you believe he should have been excluded from a job for no reason?

 

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2 minutes ago, TruroBeth said:

Manafort was paid by a pro-Russian group in Ukraine.  But nice try.

And Hillary and her campaign colluded with the Russians.  Nice Try, FatFingers

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7 minutes ago, dontlooknow said:

The investigation goes on. Two small fry. 

Manafort is facing 20 years, he will NOT simply get off.  He can splill his guts if he knows anything that Mueller doesn’t already know and possibly get that sentenece reduced, but there is no freaking way he will walk from this .... unless Dumpy is stupid enough to pardon him.

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2 minutes ago, TruroBeth said:

Manafort was paid by a pro-Russian group in Ukraine.  But nice try.

Yes he was.   So were the Podestas. 

As a matter of fact, Manafort was the guy that transferred the money FROM Ukraine TO Podesta. 

Podesta.    Hillary's campaign chairman.

 

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Just now, jrobin15283 said:

And Hillary and her campaign colluded with the Russians.  Nice Try, FatFingers

Oh please.  Go back to that stupid abortion forum, you have not been missed.

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1 minute ago, TruroBeth said:

Oh please.  Go back to that stupid abortion forum, you have not been missed.

Sorry, but Hillary, the DNC and Obama all paid Marc Elias to hire Steele and create the fake dossier used against Trump.

These are facts, admitted by the lawyer. 

That's why Hillary has gone into hiding.

 

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1 minute ago, Golfboy said:

Sorry, but Hillary, the DNC and Obama all paid Marc Elias to hire Steele and create the fake dossier used against Trump.

These are facts, admitted by the lawyer. 

That's why Hillary has gone into hiding.

 

She isn’t in hiding, she is sitting back enjoying the show like the rest of us.  There is nothing illegal about opposition research, FYI the only thing in question is why it was disclosed through the campaign attorneys instead of the campaign.  Maybe you should pay more attention?  That may help.

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1 minute ago, TruroBeth said:

She isn’t in hiding, she is sitting back enjoying the show like the rest of us.  There is nothing illegal about opposition research, FYI the only thing in question is why it was disclosed through the campaign attorneys instead of the campaign.  Maybe you should pay more attention?  That may help.

Hiring Russians to lie about a political candidate for President, isn't "opposition research". 

But that's a strange claim coming from people that accused Trump Jr. of treason for wanting opposition research vs Hillary.

 

It was disclosed by the attorney because he too, is criminally liable for laws that are broken, and as a member of the court he cannot lie.

 

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2 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said:

 

Seeing as that report is from one of the HUBS of FAKE NEWS, I'll have to verify the pro-Russian aspect of the "Ukraine" elements that Manifort represented... However, the MOST IMPORTANT points are:

 

1)  ALL of the allegations happened LONG before Trump ran, or even announced,  for president.. and

 

2)  The fact that Manifort DID NOT disclose that he had ties was WHY he was FIRED by Trump in the summer of 2016 in the FIRST place,

 

Nothing in ANY of the current allegations implicates Donald trump of ANYTHING !!  Unlike the FBI investigations that were disclosed last week do to implicate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Eric Hilder, Bob Mueller, and James Comey !!

They call it Money laundering..............

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2 hours ago, ConservativeWAVE said:

 

1)  ALL of the allegations happened LONG before Trump ran, or even announced,  for president.. and

 

2)  The fact that Manifort DID NOT disclose that he had ties was WHY he was FIRED by Trump in the summer of 2016 in the FIRST place,

 

Nothing in ANY of the current allegations implicates Donald trump of ANYTHING !!  Unlike the FBI investigations that were disclosed

You didn't answer my question. Try again - So did Tramp hire Manafort for his campaign?

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1 minute ago, lucifershammer said:

No matter who you are you do a crime you answer for it

Not if you are a democrat politician, especially with a democrat lead DoJ. 

 

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Just now, shintao said:

You didn't answer my question. Try again - So did Tramp hire Manafort for his campaign?

I answered:   Yes.   And that wasn't a crime as Manafort had never been even accused of any crime. 

 

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12 hours ago, TruroBeth said:

Oh please.  Go back to that stupid abortion forum, you have not been missed.

ok FatFingers...

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