Imgreatagain Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Blue Devil said: Sometimes it's the Simple things... It’s always the simple things Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 5:42 AM, EltonJohnson said: Where? when they said the right to keepand bear arms shall not be infringed? They assumed people had common sense and would know how to interpret those words. They had not met gun nutters. They could not imagine people being obsessed by guns. They could not imagine nuclear arms. They could not imagine automatic rifles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EltonJohnson Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Scout said: They could not imagine people being obsessed by guns. you think guns were a new invention when the Constitution was written? They had been around for hundreds of years and the technology was advancing rapidly 1 minute ago, Scout said: They assumed people had common sense and would know how to interpret those words. They had not met gun nutters. The Constitution has stood the test of time. You think they were short sighted when they were very smart about what they wrote. you just refuse to be participant in reality. They understood the threat of authoritarian government, while you are supporting it. You don't even realize that you are the enemy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, EltonJohnson said: The Constitution has stood the test of time. You think they were short sighted when they were very smart about what they wrote. you just refuse to be participant in reality. You provide NOTHING to substantiate any of this. I, on the other hand, provided the evidence that the Founders DID IN FACT believe in gun control. They never meant UNFETTERED access to arms that are more powerful than anything they imagined in their wildest dreams. It is wrong for gun nutters to force terror upon this nation with this gun culture. They are VERY SELF CENTERED people. Only out for #1, which by the way, is as UNCHRISTIAN as ANY belief ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 oops....last part of that statement was for @Chongo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 10:48 AM, shetluck said: He point his rifle ,after they threatened him, before they attacked him. FALSE. He was just aiming it at people. It is a form of illegal brandishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 11:02 AM, AnotherJim said: For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day.[1] In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 deadly, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000.[2] About 2,000 children under 16 die every year in traffic collisions.[3] Records indicate that there were 3,613,732 motor vehicle fatalities in the United States from 1899 to 2013.- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They also pollute the air, cause respiratory illnesses & and according to liberals, contribute to global warming. And I bet you that there are a LOT more ambulance runs to hospitals each day than a mere 102. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EltonJohnson Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Scout said: You provide NOTHING to substantiate any of this. Fuck yes I did. The Constitution 16 minutes ago, Scout said: on the other hand, provided the evidence that the Founders DID IN FACT believe in gun control. No such evidence exists, so you didn’t. 17 minutes ago, Scout said: They never meant UNFETTERED access to arms that are more powerful than anything they imagined in their wildest dreams. Show them saying this.... prove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, EltonJohnson said: Fuck yes I did. The Constitution No such evidence exists, so you didn’t. Show them saying this.... prove it. I don't have to. The laws of the nation back me up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EltonJohnson Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Scout said: I don't have to. The laws of the nation back me up. Of course you have to. You can’t and you just make shit up. Everyone knows you here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shetluck Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 5:52 AM, Scout said: I think the Founders know what it says better than you. And THEY said gun control was quite acceptable. You can't seem to address this point. YOu will now either personally insult me or try to change the subject because YOU KNOW my point means you are 100% WRONG. On 10/9/2020 at 11:43 AM, shetluck said: The founders are unable to respond. I have not heard, read, or seen anything to support your position other than the opinions of other communist. I HAVE read plenty of quotes from the founders that support my position. Lexington and Concord, have you heard of it? Check it out some time. You may learn something. It was the inspiration for the second amendment. What I have NOT heard is a response to my question of if you have ever been shooting, do you own a firearm? Well? Speak up scout. ........ Oh ... are you still busy looking up Lexington/Concord? I'll wait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, shetluck said: Well? Speak up scout. ........ Oh ... are you still busy looking up Lexington/Concord? I'll wait I' still waiting for you to tell me I am right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Scout said: I' still waiting for you to tell me I am right. You're not right. You're wrong. More people save lives with guns EVERY DAY in lawful self-defense situations than are killed with guns. The Founders did NOT believe in gun control. https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf What did it mean to be well regulated? One of the biggest challenges in interpreting a centuries-old document is that the meanings of words change or diverge. "Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight." In other words, it didn't mean the state was controlling the militia in a certain way, but rather that the militia was prepared to do its duty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Spartan said: More people save lives with guns EVERY DAY in lawful self-defense situations than are killed with guns. False. Far more people are saved by ambulance or car rides to doctors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scout said: False. Far more people are saved by ambulance or car rides to doctors. No, simple truth. Your lies don't change the facts. Every time you say "false", those with functioning intellects know you're lying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shetluck Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Scout said: I' still waiting for you to tell me I am right. About what. You have stated your opinion. Nothing else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shetluck Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 More people are killed every year with hammers and clubs than with rifles. Should I register my Estwing 28oz framing hammer? And before you go off on a rant, these are FBI stats Rifles 364 Hammers, clubs, etc. 397 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Spartan said: he Founders did NOT believe in gun control. https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf This is a lie. The Founder implemented their OWN gun control laws back in the day. Spartan can't accept the truth because he is impotent without stroking a gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hammer have utility that guns do NOT have. Cars have utility that guns do NOT have. People rarely save themselves from harm with a gun. IN FACT, there are a far greater number of members of a house dead from suicide by gun that there are members of a household that defended him/her self with a gun. THOSE are the facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitemajikman Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Scout said: False. Far more people are saved by ambulance or car rides to doctors. False. Just ask any military man/woman..... You lose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, Whitemajikman said: False. Just ask any military man/woman..... You lose. Whiteman feels the need to change the subject, eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitemajikman Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Scout said: Whiteman feels the need to change the subject, eh? Who is changing the subject?.....not I.... You are trying to state falsehoods that the world at large knows are falsehoods...... The vast majority of the entire world are addicted to weaponry of all sorts..... Now ... Answer why.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Whitemajikman said: Who is changing the subject?.....not I.... You are trying to state falsehoods that the world at large knows are falsehoods...... The vast majority of the entire world are addicted to weaponry of all sorts..... Now ... Answer why.... I am known for giving facts that bear scrutiny. You are known for giving opinions without ANY corroboration. Guns kill and have no utility otherwise. Gun nutters do not have the judgement to use guns responsibly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scout Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 17 hours ago, Spartan said: No, simple truth. Your lies don't change the facts. Every time you say "false", those with functioning intellects know you're lying. Everytime I say "false", people learn you are lying and that is a VERY GOOD THING for the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whiteboy Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Scout said: Everytime I say "false", people learn you are lying and that is a VERY GOOD THING for the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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