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The gun did it.

 

No, wait...

 

Ha!

 

 

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"...The Sound of Freedom!"

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3 hours ago, leftjohn said:

 

I admit, you caught me off guard with that...

 

But still, I just think trying to compare baseball bats with AR-15s is one of the things wrong with the gun debate. We have a serious problem with gun violence in this nation, I don't feel that way about baseball.

 

But I love baseball, so....

AR15 are less than 3% of all gun violence. All rifles are in that 3%. The number one gun use in gun violence is a revolver handgun. The reason is simple, they are cheap and small and they are everywhere, yet liberals want to go after AR15s because they look mean. 

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22 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

You honestly don't see the stupidity in your thinking homicide stats included suicides?

 

Unreal.

 

Intelligent discourse is officially dead.

He is correct about the definition of homicide under the law. I'm not sure why you keep crying about this. 

 

Suicide stats are non-prosecuted crime because it isn't illegal to kill your self. If you take out suicide from gun violence, the issue of gun violence s is much less serious. What is very serious is where the gun violence mostly occurs and that is in inner-cities among gangs. We have to define the problem, then tackle it. Leftists are unwilling to define the real problem but are happy with using stats as a blanket issue to take away gun rights. This shows that the left is not serious about the root causes of gun violence and is only concerned with the politics of the issue. 

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12 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

If you want to argue from a philosophical point that suicide is "self homicide", knock yourself out.

But, I'm telling you point blank, that statically, homicides and suicides are 2 different things. Suicides are NOT included in homicide stats. To argue otherwise proves you are an idiot.

That wasn't your original claim, bitch.     

I don't care how you try to spin it now, after having your ass handed to you.

 

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8 minutes ago, Fallopian said:

AR15 are less than 3% of all gun violence. All rifles are in that 3%. The number one gun use in gun violence is a revolver handgun. The reason is simple, they are cheap and small and they are everywhere, yet liberals want to go after AR15s because they look mean. 

 

Ronald Reagan summed it up best for me...

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2 minutes ago, Golfboy said:

That wasn't your original claim, bitch.     

I don't care how you try to spin it now, after having your ass handed to you.

 

 

Yes it was...

I gave you homicide and suicide stats and you said suicide was homicide. We've been going round and round ever since.

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Just now, leftjohn said:

 

Yes it was...

I gave you homicide and suicide stats and you said suicide was homicide. We've been going round and round ever since.

No, it wasn't.     

 

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Just now, leftjohn said:

 

Go back and read the posts for yourself. 

I'm not the idiot who is trying to spin reality because he got his ass handed to him again.

 

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7 minutes ago, Golfboy said:

I'm not the idiot who is trying to spin reality because he got his ass handed to him again.

 

 

No spin, I encourage you and anyone else with nothing better to do with their life to go back and read the original posts.

 

They are on page 5 in this thread.

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11 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

Ronald Reagan summed it up best for me...

 

Me, too.

 

 

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Just now, Blue Devil said:

 

Me, too.

 

 

 

Interesting that you also use Reagan... His stance on gun control (not to mention his views on immigration) would have him run out of the Republican party today.

 

In a joint letter Presidents Carter, Ford and Reagan wrote: 
"While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals."

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Reagan had a RiNO problem in his administration.

 

The Constitution is clear, Comrade.

 

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You don't have to like it.

 

...and you can always move to Democrat National Socialist Utopia North Korea... I don't think they have one.

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23 minutes ago, Blue Devil said:

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You keep posting this 2nd Amendment graphic. I'm curious, what do you think the founders meant by the "A well regulated militia" part of this amendment?

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8 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

You keep posting this 2nd Amendment graphic. I'm curious, what do you think the founders meant by the "A well regulated militia" part of this amendment?

 

It's too bad our public schools don't teach civics anymore. 

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 The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

 

And worse that liberals don't have the intellectual curiosity to look for answers to their own questions.   

This is why this child is unable to even read simple graphs. 

 

http://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor.htm

 

 

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12 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

You keep posting this 2nd Amendment graphic. I'm curious, what do you think the founders meant by the "A well regulated militia" part of this amendment?

 

At the time of the founding, "well regulated" was in reference to soldiers possessing regular arms, as opposed to torches and pitchforks.

 

As for "Militia" at that time?  It was any able bodied male Citizen of appropriate age.

 

Given the Constitution, there should have been a Federal Law requiring able bodied male Citizen of appropriate age to be regularly armed and qualified.

 

...but the Founders no doubt never envisioned faggot Communists as Citizens, so it was not likely entertained.

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2 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

I noticed you left out "militia" in your comments. Any reason why?

I'm sorry, I thought you were intelligent enough to understand what a militia was in 1775. 

I guess not.    My apologies for once again over estimating your intelligence. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Blue Devil said:

 

At the time of the founding, "well regulated" was in reference to soldiers possessing regular arms, as opposed to torches and pitchforks.

 

As for "Militia" at that time?  It was any able bodied male Citizen of appropriate age.

 

Given the Constitution, their should be a Federal Law requiring able bodied male Citizen of appropriate age to be regularly armed and qualified.

 

The Founders never envisioned faggot Communists as Citizens, so it was not like entertained.

 

At least you mention "militia" and acknowledge it was their intention. So, are you saying the 2nd amendment was for military purposes only?

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Just now, Golfboy said:

I'm sorry, I thought you were intelligent enough to understand what a militia was in 1775. 

I guess not. 

 

 

Nice attempt at a dodge...

 

Now tell me why they specifically put the word "militia" in the 2nd amendment.

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1 minute ago, leftjohn said:

 

At least you mention "militia" and acknowledge it was their intention. So, are you saying the 2nd amendment was for military purposes only?

No dumbass.  READ THE FUCKING AMENDMENT.

 

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1 minute ago, leftjohn said:

Nice attempt at a dodge...

Now tell me why they specifically put the word "militia" in the 2nd amendment.

Why?   You can't understand English?    The Amendment is quite clear, why do you need me to explain it to you?

Never mind... because militias come from "the people", therefore "the people" need to be armed. 

 

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Just now, Golfboy said:

No dumbass.  READ THE FUCKING AMENDMENT.

 

 

I have read the 2nd amendment, have you?

 

It does in fact have the word "militia" featured very prominently in it. I'm asking you why?

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3 minutes ago, leftjohn said:

 

At least you mention "militia" and acknowledge it was their intention. So, are you saying the 2nd amendment was for military purposes only?

 

Our Republic is that of the People.

 

Every Citizen has the Right and Responsibility to protect and defend it.

 

Republic, State, Community, Family, Self.

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Just now, leftjohn said:

I have read the 2nd amendment, have you?

It does in fact have the word "militia" featured very prominently in it. I'm asking you why?

Because militias are necessary for the protection of the State, and the militia is made up of the "people", therefore "the people" need to be armed. 

If you've read it, why are you asking me to explain it to you?

 

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