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The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.  The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state.  The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires.

Retired Chief Justice Warren Burger, "The Right to Bear Arms," Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990.

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7 hours ago, guilluamezenz said:
The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.  The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state.  The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires.

Retired Chief Justice Warren Burger, "The Right to Bear Arms," Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990.

 

 

So you are now reduced to posting fabricated / misattributed "quotes" to argue your position? 

None of your "quote" come from Burger's 1990 Parade commentary. 

Snippets of your "quote" comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991.

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43 minutes ago, Jeerleader said:

 

 

So you are now reduced to posting fabricated / misattributed "quotes" to argue your position? 

None of your "quote" come from Burger's 1990 Parade commentary. 

Snippets of your "quote" comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991.

 

You are upsetting the Children.

 

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2 hours ago, Jeerleader said:

 

 

So you are now reduced to posting fabricated / misattributed "quotes" to argue your position? 

None of your "quote" come from Burger's 1990 Parade commentary. 

Snippets of your "quote" comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991.

no i'm not he said that thats a fact and he is a conservative

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36 minutes ago, Blue Devil said:

I Am a Well Regulated Militia.

 

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you sir are insurection   

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The U.S. Sedition Act first outlawed conspiracies "to oppose any measure or measures of the government." Going further, the act made it illegal for anyone to express "any false, scandalous and malicious writing" against Congress or the president. Significantly, the act did not specifically protect the vice-president who, of course, was Jefferson. Additional language punished any spoken o  https://www.crf-usa.org/america-responds-to-terrorism/the-alien-and-sedition-acts.html

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3 hours ago, guilluamezenz said:

 

6 hours ago, Jeerleader said:

 

So you are now reduced to posting fabricated / misattributed "quotes" to argue your position? 

None of your "quote" come from Burger's 1990 Parade commentary. 

Snippets of your "quote" comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991.

 

no i'm not he said that thats a fact

 

Yeah, you are posting fabricated / misattributed crap as a quote . . . That pile of BS has been floating around for decades and it's time for it to die.

 

Only a couple words out of that block of text you have represented as a "quote" are Burger's words.  Whoever fabricated that fake quote took a few words that he did say (and not in the Parade article) and constructed that lie that you have presented. 

 

Here's two links to Burger's 1990 Parade commentary; first goes to a copy on Gunsite (a gun rights website -- you can copy text there for future reference).  If you do not 'trust" that one, here is a college textbook on critical thinking scanned at Google Books, the article is reprinted on page 377.  That link will open up and you will need to click on page 377, scroll down just a bit and the article begins -- you can not copy text from this site.

 

The Parade article is very interesting, Burger speaks of a right to possess and use guns for defense of home and for hunting that is unquestionable. with no militia conditioning.  Of course Burger wrote these words a couple years before he started to appear in Handgun Control Inc. advertisements and do interviews disparaging NRA and gun rights.  In the end. Burger's comments are less than compelling and survive only in disjointed misquoted and misattributed snippets the gun control confirmation bias museum; to be puked-up by people who don't know just how dumb it is.

 

The oft heard "fraud" phrase comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991 (video and transcript is at link).

 

The pertinent part is pasted below:

 

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Some scholars have argued that the Bill of Rights is still flawed, that some of its provisions need reconsidering, that it's over rated. How do you respond to that?

JUSTICE BURGER: That is as with anything in this life, it could be better here or there.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Like where, for example?

JUSTICE BURGER: Well, that's a harder one to answer. If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Which says.

JUSTICE BURGER: That says a well regulated militia being necessary for the defense of the state, people's rights to bear arms. This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word "fraud," on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. Now just look at those words. There are only three lines to that amendment. A well regulated militia -- if the militia, which was going to be the state army, was going to be well regulated, why shouldn't 16 and 17 and 18 or any other age persons be regulated in the use of arms the way an automobile is regulated? It's got to be registered, that you can't just deal with it at will. Someone asked me recently if I was for or against a bill that was pending in Congress calling for five days' waiting period. And I said, yes, I'm very much against it, it should be thirty days' waiting period so they find out why this person needs a handgun or a machine gun.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: What about the opinion polls, finally, that suggest that the Bill of Rights would not be popularly supported if it were up for ratification today?

JUSTICE BURGER: I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that at all. In fact, I think it's a little bit ridiculous. Any poll can be manipulated by how the question is asked and if you ask some active member of the NRA if the Second Amendment should be changed, of course, he or she would go up in the air.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: That's the National Rifle Association.

JUSTICE BURGER: Yes. I don't want to get sued for slander, but I repeat that they have misled the American people and they, I regret to say, they have had far too much influence on the Congress of the United States than as a citizen I would like to see -- and I am a gun man. I have guns. I've been a hunter ever since I was a boy.

 

 

 

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Not sure if this has been posted yet:

A well-balanced breakfast, being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. 

Who has the right to food, a well-balanced breakfast or the people?

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Just now, kking said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet:

A well-balanced breakfast, being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. 

Who has the right to food, a well-balanced breakfast or the people?

Weird . 

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On 12/5/2019 at 5:15 PM, Jeerleader said:

 

Yeah, you are posting fabricated / misattributed crap as a quote . . . That pile of BS has been floating around for decades and it's time for it to die.

 

Only a couple words out of that block of text you have represented as a "quote" are Burger's words.  Whoever fabricated that fake quote took a few words that he did say (and not in the Parade article) and constructed that lie that you have presented. 

 

Here's two links to Burger's 1990 Parade commentary; first goes to a copy on Gunsite (a gun rights website -- you can copy text there for future reference).  If you do not 'trust" that one, here is a college textbook on critical thinking scanned at Google Books, the article is reprinted on page 377.  That link will open up and you will need to click on page 377, scroll down just a bit and the article begins -- you can not copy text from this site.

 

The Parade article is very interesting, Burger speaks of a right to possess and use guns for defense of home and for hunting that is unquestionable. with no militia conditioning.  Of course Burger wrote these words a couple years before he started to appear in Handgun Control Inc. advertisements and do interviews disparaging NRA and gun rights.  In the end. Burger's comments are less than compelling and survive only in disjointed misquoted and misattributed snippets the gun control confirmation bias museum; to be puked-up by people who don't know just how dumb it is.

 

The oft heard "fraud" phrase comes from a PBS interview he gave with Charlayne Hunter-Gault on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour on December 16, 1991 (video and transcript is at link).

 

The pertinent part is pasted below:

 

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Some scholars have argued that the Bill of Rights is still flawed, that some of its provisions need reconsidering, that it's over rated. How do you respond to that?

JUSTICE BURGER: That is as with anything in this life, it could be better here or there.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Like where, for example?

JUSTICE BURGER: Well, that's a harder one to answer. If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn't be any such thing as the Second Amendment.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: Which says.

JUSTICE BURGER: That says a well regulated militia being necessary for the defense of the state, people's rights to bear arms. This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word "fraud," on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. Now just look at those words. There are only three lines to that amendment. A well regulated militia -- if the militia, which was going to be the state army, was going to be well regulated, why shouldn't 16 and 17 and 18 or any other age persons be regulated in the use of arms the way an automobile is regulated? It's got to be registered, that you can't just deal with it at will. Someone asked me recently if I was for or against a bill that was pending in Congress calling for five days' waiting period. And I said, yes, I'm very much against it, it should be thirty days' waiting period so they find out why this person needs a handgun or a machine gun.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: What about the opinion polls, finally, that suggest that the Bill of Rights would not be popularly supported if it were up for ratification today?

JUSTICE BURGER: I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that at all. In fact, I think it's a little bit ridiculous. Any poll can be manipulated by how the question is asked and if you ask some active member of the NRA if the Second Amendment should be changed, of course, he or she would go up in the air.

MS. HUNTER-GAULT: That's the National Rifle Association.

JUSTICE BURGER: Yes. I don't want to get sued for slander, but I repeat that they have misled the American people and they, I regret to say, they have had far too much influence on the Congress of the United States than as a citizen I would like to see -- and I am a gun man. I have guns. I've been a hunter ever since I was a boy.

 

 

 

  A fraud on the American public.” That’s how former Chief Justice Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.

Twenty-five years later, Burger’s view seems as quaint as a powdered wig. Not only is an individual right to a firearm widely accepted, but increasingly states are also passing laws to legalize carrying weapons on streets, in parks, in bars—even in churches.

 

Many are startled to learn that the U.S. Supreme Court didn’t rule that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own a gun until 2008, when District of Columbia v. Heller struck down the capital’s law effectively banning handguns in the home. In fact, every other time the court had ruled previously, it had ruled otherwise. Why such a head-snapping turnaround? Don’t look for answers in dusty law books  https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856

 

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On 12/5/2019 at 6:47 PM, Blue Devil said:

I Am a Well Regulated Militia.

 

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these sir were his exact words you sir are a liar 

The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.  The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state.  The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires.

Retired Chief Justice Warren Burger, "The Right to Bear Arms," Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990.

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7 minutes ago, guilluamezenz said:

these sir were his exact words you sir are a liar 

The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.  The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state.  The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires.

Retired Chief Justice Warren Burger, "The Right to Bear Arms," Parade Magazine, January 14, 1990.

 

You are a proven liar and fraud, so sit in your corner and cry.

 

America - will just ignore your pathetic tears.

 

 

I Am a Well Regulated Militia.

 

Second-_Amendment--620x358.jpg

 

 

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1 minute ago, guilluamezenz said:

the record proves i am right he said those very words and more than once

 

You are wrong, as usual, and a sociopath.

 

Find an adult to watch this with you, to explain any words of more than four letters or two syllables.

 

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