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This is what you do when your reason fails.

 

Bill

My reason is just fine. I'm just sick of your repetitive, hateful bullshit. You're derailing every thread on this forum.

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HRC had no control of the Wiki Leaks - She lost votes.

HRC had no control of the stategically time Comey info dumps - She lost votes.

HRC had no control over the Electoral College - Lost the election even though winning 3 million more votes.

HRC had no control over Russian disinformation.

 

HRC had total control over whether to give highly paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. It is not a good idea for a future Democratic candidate to give speeches to Goldman Sachs. Had she not done so, she would have overcome the Wiki Leaks, Comey dumps and Russian disinformation. And she would have won despite the Electoral College. It is Hillary's own fault that she lost the election and she lost it because of greed.

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My reason is just fine. I'm just sick of your repetitive, hateful bullshit. You're derailing every thread on this forum.

 

No, you "derailed it" claiming the killer was a Trumpist when he was—in fact—a Bernie Sanders supporter.

 

We should seek truth, if we claim to be liberals.

 

Bill

HRC had no control of the Wiki Leaks - She lost votes.

HRC had no control of the stategically time Comey info dumps - She lost votes.

HRC had no control over the Electoral College - Lost the election even though winning 3 million more votes.

HRC had no control over Russian disinformation.

 

HRC had total control over whether to give highly paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. It is not a good idea for a future Democratic candidate to give speeches to Goldman Sachs. Had she not done so, she would have overcome the Wiki Leaks, Comey dumps and Russian disinformation. And she would have won despite the Electoral College. It is Hillary's own fault that she lost the election and she lost it because of greed.

 

There is nothing illegal or immoral about raising money giving speeches.

 

Campaigns cost money to run.

 

Bill

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HRC had no control of the Wiki Leaks - She lost votes.

HRC had no control of the stategically time Comey info dumps - She lost votes.

HRC had no control over the Electoral College - Lost the election even though winning 3 million more votes.

HRC had no control over Russian disinformation.

 

HRC had total control over whether to give highly paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. It is not a good idea for a future Democratic candidate to give speeches to Goldman Sachs. Had she not done so, she would have overcome the Wiki Leaks, Comey dumps and Russian disinformation. And she would have won despite the Electoral College. It is Hillary's own fault that she lost the election and she lost it because of greed.

I agree, Bludog. The Goldman Sachs speeches were an issue from the start. Instead of being transparent, she chose to cover up the content of those speeches. Secrecy ALWAYS breeds suspicion. They were a definite factor in the election.

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The 'other' hero in this under-reported tragedy...Micah Fletcher.

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After a day of intense protests, and counter protests, Fletcher, out of the hospital but walking stiffly, stepped up to the stage of a local church and implored them to turn their attention to the teen-agers who had been harassed, and whose lives, had been changed forever.

Fletcher asked viewers to imagine the girls’ experience.
“This man is screaming at you, his face is a pile of knives; his body is a gun. Everything about him is cocked, loaded, and ready to kill you."
"You can feel this has happened before; the only thing that was different was the names and faces. And then a stranger, two strangers, three strangers, come to your aid."
They try to help you, and that pile of knives just throws itself at them, and kills them.”


Pale and slight behind the microphone at the community center, Fletcher repeated his plea:
“There’s nothing heroic about protecting the children,” he said.

The crowd gave him a standing ovation.

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I constantly see people in this forum pile up against Spy Car, but the fact of the matter is, he was right from the get go when he said that Christian was a Bernie guy. Regardless of Christian's public actions which seem contradictory to what a socialist or democrat would be, he was very vocal MANY TIMES on social media about his support for Bernie Sanders. To say SpyCar is on a 'bigotry campaign' or is being disingenuous with what he saying is just wrong, when he is using Christian's very own words to corroborate his point. Does Christian's words and position seem contradictory and illogical? Blatantly. But he still consistently voiced his support for Bernie, and that's all there is to it.

This is a trend I notice happen in almost every single thread. People don't like what Spy Car has to say, and in effect it becomes an anti-SpyCar circle jerk.. i don't really understand it honestly, i have yet to see SpyCar intentionally mislead people with disinformation; and yet that is the way everyone responds to him; as a fellow forum member i find it frustrating because Bill is usually contributory and helps propagate the threads he is active into direction(s) that lead to great debate and arguments.

I also read this from a linked article in the thread earlier:

"He has a criminal history, including felony robbery, kidnapping and weapon convictions, records show. When he was 20 years old, he was shot in the face by Portland police after he robbed a convenience store." (reporting about Christian's past criminality)

He was shot in the head by police before. Easily explains the mental problems.

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The intention of my original post was to contrast this terrorist attack to:

A. Muslim(s) wielding knifes in London.
B. A self professed Nazi wielding knifes against Muslims in Portland.

Also to highlight the heroic acts of the three citizens from very different backgrounds.

Unfortunately, the thread got hijacked to discussing a tangentially (un)significant aspect of this whole episode.
I apologize for taking the bait, but I have friends in Portland that view this event very differently than SpyCar, and many viral online gossip mongers.

As far as I'm concerned, Christian was a hate filled, deluded, and self professed Nazi.

To imply, or infer that somehow Sen. Sanders would, or does inspire this type of terrorist act in any way is simply untruthful.

It is unfortunate that you seem to be implying the same untruth, otherwise why mention it?

In fact, the police lines that divided the Neo-Nazi's from the (likely) Sanders counter-demonstrators made that distinction un-mistakable.

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I constantly see people in this forum pile up against Spy Car, but the fact of the matter is, he was right from the get go when he said that Christian was a Bernie guy. Regardless of Christian's public actions which seem contradictory to what a socialist or democrat would be, he was very vocal MANY TIMES on social media about his support for Bernie Sanders.

 

With all due respect, pointing out that a deranged, anti-semitic nutjob supposedly "supported" Bernie is like taking the time to point out that Charles Manson once supported Hillary Clinton. These are insane people, not "supporters." The shit the Portland terrorist spouted directly contradicted nearly all of Bernie's ideals.

 

 

To say SpyCar is on a 'bigotry campaign' or is being disingenuous with what he saying is just wrong, when he is using Christian's very own words to corroborate his point. Does Christian's words and position seem contradictory and illogical? Blatantly. But he still consistently voiced his support for Bernie, and that's all there is to it.

 

And Charlie's support for Hillary was sincere. Of course Charlie is in a 6x8 cell for the rest of his life and can't vote. But his "support" is just as real as the batshit crazy Portland terrorist. SpyCar was repeating and pushing the issue SOLELY to troll and irritate Bernie supporters, not to provide us with interesting information we weren't aware of.

 

SpyCar dislikes anyone who doesn't agree with him on Hillary Clinton. He made a point of vote shaming me about my vote last fall for months, in nearly every thread in this area. It was constant, obsessive, and derailed nearly every topic here.

 

I do sincerely apologize if I was ever short with you, Quantum. You're an interesting poster and I enjoy reading what you have to say.

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With all due respect, pointing out that a deranged, anti-semitic nutjob supposedly "supported" Bernie is like taking the time to point out that Charles Manson once supported Hillary Clinton. These are insane people, not "supporters." The shit the Portland terrorist spouted directly contradicted nearly all of Bernie's ideals.

 

 

 

And Charlie's support for Hillary was sincere. Of course Charlie is in a 6x8 cell for the rest of his life and can't vote. But his "support" is just as real as the batshit crazy Portland terrorist. SpyCar was repeating and pushing the issue SOLELY to troll and irritate Bernie supporters, not to provide us with interesting information we weren't aware of.

 

SpyCar dislikes anyone who doesn't agree with him on Hillary Clinton. He made a point of vote shaming me about my vote last fall for months, in nearly every thread in this area. It was constant, obsessive, and derailed nearly every topic here.

 

I do sincerely apologize if I was ever short with you, Quantum. You're an interesting poster and I enjoy reading what you have to say.

 

Except Charles Manson never endorsed Hillary Clinton and the video you've linked to is a crude forgery that's intended (I think) as satire. Fake news.

 

Today's shooter of a GOP congressman was another very vocal Bernie Sanders supporter.

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Except Charles Manson never endorsed Hillary Clinton and the video you've linked to is a crude forgery that's intended (I think) as satire. Fake news.

 

Today's shooter of a GOP congressman was another very vocal Bernie Sanders supporter.

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Except Charles Manson never endorsed Hillary Clinton and the video you've linked to is a crude forgery that's intended (I think) as satire. Fake news.

 

Today's shooter of a GOP congressman was another very vocal Bernie Sanders supporter.

 

SpyCar - You were banned from the LO Rm. Your soc, CaptainAmerica is not allowed in the LO Rm either.

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