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28 minutes ago, laripu said:

 

 

In any modern rational society, the portion of the population that are stupid are marginalized and low-status.

In societies in which the stupid have control, they maintain control through loyalty to a leader who allows and even encourages violence and intimidation by the stupid to keep the rest of society under their control.

 

Examples: Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, theocratic Iran, Putin's Russia, Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and the Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

 

But not the United States. Not yet and probably never.

Impartial ... engaging with this being is wallowing in the dirt of the stupid. Best ignore.

You are probably correct but everybody has their moments of less than perfect rationality. 

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22 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

You are probably correct but everybody has their moments of less than perfect rationality. 

 

Rationality is a good thing. :)

 

Let's examine Mein Kampf...

Apparently it dealt with:

  1. AH's hatred of Judaism
  2. AH's hatred of Communism
  3. AH's desire to get more living space for Germans by enslaving and/or wiping out Slavs in Poland and Russia and the other Baltic states between Germany and Russia.

I think we can completely discredit #3. He should have figured out from Napoleon's example that this was going to be impossible because Russians were incredibly tough and used to a difficult life. He should have understood that such an action and the war it entailed was completely immoral. He didn't do either of these things because he was a deficient human being. Deficient in intelligence and deficient in empathy. I'm surprised it even needs to be said nowadays, but Hitler was a completely inferior person.

 

#2: Most people today agree that Communism is a failed system because it's easily corrupted. Any system will fail if it becomes corrupted, and we need to watch that closely here in America, because the current ruling idiot has that kind of mentality. Our system is less easily corrupted than a Communist one, but nevertheless the danger is real and present. You get rid of Communism by having examples of non-corrupt societies that are good for people. Even China moved toward a capitalist style business model. In another 50 years they might have free-ish elections.

 

#1.

Well let's see. Jews are about 2% of Americans and 0.2% of the world population. And yet, from this Wikipedia page:

  • 22% of all Nobel Prizes awarded globally.
  • Ashkenazi Jews have won more than one quarter of the Westinghouse Science prizes, the Turing Awards, and Fields Medals.
  • 54 percent of the world's chess champions have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.
  • Among National Medal of Science recipients, 37 percent have Ashkenazi Jewish backgrounds.
  • 29 percent of U.S. Nobel Prize winners are of Ashkenazi Jewish origin.
  • 38 percent of American Nobel laureates in physics are of Ashkenazi Jewish descent.
  • 42 percent of Nobel laureates in medicine or physiology are Ashkenazi Jews.
  • 28 percent of U.S. prize winners in chemistry are Ashkenazi Jewish Americans.
  • Ashkenazi Jews comprise 33 percent of the student body and faculty at Ivy League and other elite universities in the United States.[5]
  • 30 percent of the U.S. Supreme Court law clerks are Ashkenazi Jews.

From this page:

In hi-tech entrepreneurship, Jewish names include: Intel (Grove and Vadasz), Google (Brin and Page), Oracle (Ellison), Microsoft (Balmer), Dell (Dell), Qualcom (Jacobs), Facebook (Zuckerberg and Sandberg).



In finance, the names are legion: Goldman Sachs, Rothschild, Warburg, Kohlberg, Kravis & Roberts, Wells Fargo, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, and many more.

 

Almost all the various explanations for this are simultaneously true, except the chosen people nonsense. Jews are a group:

  • whose Middle Ages religion and culture financially rewarded intellectual achievement (resulting in larger families for smarter people),
  • whose opportunities were limited to itinerant trading and finance (thereby financially rewarding linguistic ability and numeracy, again resulting in larger families for people who were good at those things),
  • who were persecuted in such a way that it disproportionately killed off those that weren't smart enough to see it coming,

If you have that, then you'll raise average IQ by about one tenth of 1 percent per generation. After 100 generations of 20 years each, you get a 10 point rise in IQ (SD 16), resulting in the above-mentioned levels of achievement. European Christians made Jews of European origin what they are.

 

Want to reverse that? Be inclusive and intermarry them to nothingness. That's happening and has been happening for many years in America.

 

One last thing... AH wanted European domination, and tried to kill off the group that had the highest level of achievement of any group. He got them personally motivated to help stop his plan. And they did.  Now that's just plain stupid, and AH was an idiot.

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22 hours ago, laripu said:

 

Rationality is a good thing. :)

 

Let's examine Mein Kampf...

Apparently it dealt with:

  1. AH's hatred of Judaism
  2. AH's hatred of Communism
  3. AH's desire to get more living space for Germans by enslaving and/or wiping out Slavs in Poland and Russia and the other Baltic states between Germany and Russia.

I think we can completely discredit #3. He should have figured out from Napoleon's example that this was going to be impossible because Russians were incredibly tough and used to a difficult life. He should have understood that such an action and the war it entailed was completely immoral. He didn't do either of these things because he was a deficient human being. Deficient in intelligence and deficient in empathy. I'm surprised it even needs to be said nowadays, but Hitler was a completely inferior person.

 

#2: Most people today agree that Communism is a failed system because it's easily corrupted. Any system will fail if it becomes corrupted, and we need to watch that closely here in America, because the current ruling idiot has that kind of mentality. Our system is less easily corrupted than a Communist one, but nevertheless the danger is real and present. You get rid of Communism by having examples of non-corrupt societies that are good for people. Even China moved toward a capitalist style business model. In another 50 years they might have free-ish elections.

 

#1.

Well let's see. Jews are about 2% of Americans and 0.2% of the world population. And yet, from this Wikipedia page:

  • 22% of all Nobel Prizes awarded globally.
  • Ashkenazi Jews have won more than one quarter of the Westinghouse Science prizes, the Turing Awards, and Fields Medals.
  • 54 percent of the world's chess champions have Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry.
  • Among National Medal of Science recipients, 37 percent have Ashkenazi Jewish backgrounds.
  • 29 percent of U.S. Nobel Prize winners are of Ashkenazi Jewish origin.
  • 38 percent of American Nobel laureates in physics are of Ashkenazi Jewish descent.
  • 42 percent of Nobel laureates in medicine or physiology are Ashkenazi Jews.
  • 28 percent of U.S. prize winners in chemistry are Ashkenazi Jewish Americans.
  • Ashkenazi Jews comprise 33 percent of the student body and faculty at Ivy League and other elite universities in the United States.[5]
  • 30 percent of the U.S. Supreme Court law clerks are Ashkenazi Jews.

From this page:

 

 

 

Almost all the various explanations for this are simultaneously true, except the chosen people nonsense. Jews are a group:

  • whose Middle Ages religion and culture financially rewarded intellectual achievement (resulting in larger families for smarter people),
  • whose opportunities were limited to itinerant trading and finance (thereby financially rewarding linguistic ability and numeracy, again resulting in larger families for people who were good at those things),
  • who were persecuted in such a way that it disproportionately killed off those that weren't smart enough to see it coming,

If you have that, then you'll raise average IQ by about one tenth of 1 percent per generation. After 100 generations of 20 years each, you get a 10 point rise in IQ (SD 16), resulting in the above-mentioned levels of achievement. European Christians made Jews of European origin what they are.

 

Want to reverse that? Be inclusive and intermarry them to nothingness. That's happening and has been happening for many years in America.

 

One last thing... AH wanted European domination, and tried to kill off the group that had the highest level of achievement of any group. He got them personally motivated to help stop his plan. And they did.  Now that's just plain stupid, and AH was an idiot.

Interesting stuff. Anyways, Mein Kempf is a product of someone that needed an easy target for his seething hatred. He wanted control above all else. Read mein kempf and it is very apparent that he could not care less about economics, economic theory, or any abstract ideas. They were simply means to an end. 

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LMFAO ya all are still talking about bludogs favorite book? That is where he learned to be a Nazi scum

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Who are you people talking to?  The OP, Larsen, never even returned to read anything you wrote responsive to his post.  Obvious troll thread.

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Mein Kampf is right up there with the King James version of the Holy Bible, the U.S. Constitution,  and the Night Before Christmas when it comes to the preaching of unmitigated, outright, bull Bad word.

Adolph Hitler was crazy; people who believe an old white man, with a long beard, who lives high up in the sky, and has never seen nor heard by anyone are also crazy. 

 

The whole fcuking world is crazy. How many of you are like myself SANE ??????

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4 hours ago, Yukon said:

Mein Kampf is right up there with the King James version of the Holy Bible, the U.S. Constitution,  and the Night Before Christmas when it comes to the preaching of unmitigated, outright, bull Bad word.

 

<snip>

 

The whole fcuking world is crazy. How many of you are like myself SANE ??????

 

If you believe those written works are comparable, you are not sane. Seek help.

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On ‎6‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 10:16 PM, laripu said:

 

If you believe those written works are comparable, you are not sane. Seek help.

They are of equal value

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On 6/8/2018 at 6:03 PM, Yukon said:

Mein Kampf is right up there with the King James version of the Holy Bible, the U.S. Constitution,  and the Night Before Christmas when it comes to the preaching of unmitigated, outright, bull Bad word.

 

3 hours ago, Yukon said:

They are of equal value

 

Value is defined in many ways. I'm interested in how you define value in this regard.

 

One way to define value is by what people are prepared to pay for something. That's not exactly a fair comparison for the Constitution or the Night Before Christmas, because both are available free on line.

 

You can get a King James Bible for  $7 - $21. Mein Kampf is about 10% more on average. But it's the same ball park, and so this tells us nothing.

 

Anyway, I doubt you're defining value this way.

 

I suspect that you're offering a value judgement; you're saying that they have the same value to you.

 

But you must know, you're not the only person in the world, and your opinion only counts in the proportion to the number of people that share that opinion.

 

Since there are many more Christians than Nazis, and many more people that value the ideas embodied by the constitution than either Christians or Nazis, I think we easily see a hierarchy of value that negates your assertion that they have equal value.

 

I'm neither a Christian nor a Nazi. In fact, both I and members of my family have been persecuted by both Christians and Nazi. The Constitution's laws provide some legal protections for me against both Christians and Nazis. So I value it, both as law and as an aspirational document.

 

That deals with the bare unconcealed facts.

 

The hidden facts are somewhat more interesting, revealed by how you wrote: you're a mean spirited person.

 

One last thing, lines from a song by the great Leonard Cohen, your countryman:

 

"You don't know me from the wind
You never will, you never did
I'm the little Jew
Who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
But love's the only engine of survival."

 

Your mean spirited qualities will hurt only you in the long run. 

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The Bible is nothing but 'fairy tales'. Adolph Hitler wrote Mein Kampf to enlighten the German people (Ein Volk) and all other people who had the intelligence to listen. Adolph Hitler was in my opinion the greatest human being that ever lived.  SEIK HEIL !!!!!

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 4:55 PM, Larsen said:

BEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN!!!

 

  That's kind of over doing it don't you think.

 

The truth is that very few Germans ever read MK. ..

 

Don't mistake  AH's success politically with any book.

 

What did  it for Hitler was his unique ability to speak. He was a true communicator . He had the don of political speech.

 

 That's what you should be investigating. .. The book was in reality based  a good deal on Darwin's  origin of the specie.

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When the copyright period expires, the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich plans to release a new edition of "Mein Kampf", in which the original text will be accompanied by consistent comments pointing out omissions and distortions of the truth. Some victims of Nazism oppose this approach. The Bavarian government rejected the previously announced support for the project, being criticized by survivors of the Holocaust.

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23 hours ago, Barbaris said:

When the copyright period expires, the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich plans to release a new edition of "Mein Kampf", in which the original text will be accompanied by consistent comments pointing out omissions and distortions of the truth. Some victims of Nazism oppose this approach. The Bavarian government rejected the previously announced support for the project, being criticized by survivors of the Holocaust.

 

The only problem I can seen with publishing Mein Kampf with "consistent comments pointing out omissions and distortions of the truth" is that it gives supporters of the book something to argue with, grist for the mill, as though there was a difference of opinion that needs to be acknowledged.

 

A priori, any book or any person that advocates genocide is wrong and ought not to be given the honor of refutation. We don't argue about whether premeditated murder of innocents is wrong. There should be even less of an argument concerning genocide.

 

Im certain my maternal grandfather would have agreed, had he not died in the Lodz ghetto at age 41, of enterocolitis. Probably brought on and/or aggravated by improper nutrition due to the enforced starvation of Jews by the Nazis.

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On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 9:31 AM, laripu said:

 

The only problem I can seen with publishing Mein Kampf with "consistent comments pointing out omissions and distortions of the truth" is that it gives supporters of the book something to argue with, grist for the mill, as though there was a difference of opinion that needs to be acknowledged.

 

A priori, any book or any person that advocates genocide is wrong and ought not to be given the honor of refutation. We don't argue about whether premeditated murder of innocents is wrong. There should be even less of an argument concerning genocide.

 

Im certain my maternal grandfather would have agreed, had he not died in the Lodz ghetto at age 41, of enterocolitis. Probably brought on and/or aggravated by improper nutrition due to the enforced starvation of Jews by the Nazis.

 

Actually if you follow the events that took place before and  during  the war they were not that different than what the US did to the indigenous or what the Brits did to the Africans  and everyone else. Germany has always been an easy target for the less informed.

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6 hours ago, lazaro said:

Germany has always been an easy target for the less informed.

 

No, I'm very well informed about the millions murdered. I grew up knowing about a dozen people with serial number tattooed on their arms. I never l knew any of my grandparents.

 

The Germans were remarkably efficient and determined. They killed millions in a decade.

 

There is no logical comparison in either scope or motive with any other group.

 

The odd thing is that both my brother and I are married to Germans. I guess the war didn't go on forever, which is a good thing.

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On ‎9‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 7:38 PM, laripu said:

 

No, I'm very well informed about the millions murdered. I grew up knowing about a dozen people with serial number tattooed on their arms. I never l knew any of my grandparents.

 

The Germans were remarkably efficient and determined. They killed millions in a decade.

 

There is no logical comparison in either scope or motive with any other group.

 

The odd thing is that both my brother and I are married to Germans. I guess the war didn't go on forever, which is a good thing.

 

 I( think you're reciting from handouts given out at the Yad Vashem memorial.. museum..

 

What do you mean by efficient.. How can you kill millions in a decade when the war only lasted a little over  5 years?

 

How can you kill millions when the largest camps were not even built until 40 43.. .. No gas chambers . in fact in some cases inmates ate better than Germans.

Many who died were euthanized by Jewish  doctors and nurses. Did you ever think of that?

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On 6/17/2017 at 8:36 PM, spotdogg said:

There are 2 books I was unable to complete...This one and 'Battlefield Earth'...I came close with the latter, but this one was completely unreadable...I tried to read it in German, but there was just no Bad wording way...Such tripe...

 

I haven't tried reading Mein Kampf. I expect it would read like a book written by Donald Trump (and not one of his ghostwriters). Incidentally, I also started reading Battlefield Earth! I got to around the midpoint before stopping, and I just haven't felt compelled to finish it. I read pretty much to the point where the movie had the story end, and every page of that book up to that point was better and made a lot more sense than the film, I must say. I especially liked the gas drone.

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Forget the banter. Why does Larsen think this is the best book ever considering Hitler is involved and why would anybody here even waste time discussing it? It is amazing to me that our education system in America fails to educate our people on what Socialism is. Hitler believed in Nationalistic Socialism. How is that thought pattern any different from today’s AOC and Bernie Sanders socialists?

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I read it when I was doing a research paper on WW2. 

 

Poorly written garbage.  It wasn't even good propaganda.

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On 9/18/2018 at 3:17 AM, Mordastyr said:

 

I haven't tried reading Mein Kampf. I expect it would read like a book written by Donald Trump (and not one of his ghostwriters). Incidentally, I also started reading Battlefield Earth! I got to around the midpoint before stopping, and I just haven't felt compelled to finish it. I read pretty much to the point where the movie had the story end, and every page of that book up to that point was better and made a lot more sense than the film, I must say. I especially liked the gas drone.

It reads like a book written by Sole Result; complete with a lot of rambling, lots of nonsense and a bunch of jargon, except Hitler was a marginally better writer than Sole.

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On 24 May 2017 at 1:55 AM, Larsen said:

BEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN!!!

Most boring book I've ever struggled  to read..

 

Apart from the Hadiths.

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I read Mein Kampf nearly 50 years ago and found it terribly boring and repetitive.  

 

Years ago I read a book entitled Sex and Society In Nazi Germany  by Hans Peter Bleuel (1973):  

https://www.google.com/search?q=sex+and+society+in+nazi+germany&rlz=1CAKSOU_enUS772US772&oq=sex+and+society+in+nazi+germany&aqs=chrome..69i57.5449j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

 

In this well written and documented work, the writer indicates Nazism could rise again in Germany.  History has proven that the author was correct.  

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