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I couldn't afford a private dentist:

so I used PLIERS to pull out 13 top teeth

Gulf war vet Ian Boynton's story is common in today's Britain as they take their health care into their own hands...

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Great Britain has Single-Payer, Right?

 

Know what their #1 over-the-counter remedy is?

 

Home Teeth-pulling Kits.

 

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Almost makes it worth bein'... "Free".

 

Ha!

 

fuckin' Communists...

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HealthCare Is A Right

 

Taxpayers do realize that the medical insurance industry is as corrupt as the mafia and our election system.

 

To be fair to all in America there is only one way to satisfy the demand for ethical medical insurance coverage. That is by way of choice to consumers.

 

In fact three choices for maximum satisfaction:

 

=== ObamaCare which retains the health insurance industry for those who fear the word Medicare or phrase Single Payer after all it is their dollar. This needs stiff federal regulations that cannot be superceded by the states. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year. Sooner or later this group will enroll in single payer.

 

=== Single Payer Medicare for ALL = excellent coverage for those who wish to enroll. The absolute best choice on planet earth.

https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

 

=== Self financed health care for those able to do so. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year.

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Medicaid Provides Equal- or Better-Quality Health Insurance Coverage Than Private Plans, as Well as More Financial Protection

 

April 27, 2017

"Having Medicaid is not only substantially better than being uninsured, but it provides enrollees with health insurance that on most measures is as good as or, in some cases, better than private coverage, according to new a Commonwealth Fund report. Medicaid is currently the nations largest health insurer, covering more than 70 million people, about 12 million of whom enrolled when 31 states and the District of Columbia expanded eligibility for the program under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

 

The Commonwealth Fund report finds that Medicaid enrollees were much more likely than the uninsured to get preventive care such as blood pressure checks, cholesterol screenings, and flu shots. They were also more likely to have received cancer screenings such as mammograms and colonoscopies.

 

According to the survey, people with Medicaid were substantially less likely than the uninsured or those with private health insurance to report they had medical bills problems or skipped needed health care because of costs."

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/about-us/newsroom

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U.S. Spends More on Health Care Than Other High-Income Nations, But Has Lower Life Expectancy, Worse Health


October 8, 2015

"The U.S. spent more per person on health care than 12 other high-income nations in 2013, while seeing the lowest life expectancy and some of the worst health outcomes among this group, according to a Commonwealth Fund report out today. The analysis shows that in the U.S., which spent an average of $9,086 per person annually, life expectancy was 78.8 years. Switzerland, the second-highest-spending country, spent $6,325 per person and had a life expectancy of 82.9 years. Mortality rates for cancer were among the lowest in the U.S., but rates of chronic conditions, obesity, and infant mortality were higher than those abroad.

 

“Time and again, we see evidence that the amount of money we spend on health care in this country is not gaining us comparable health benefits,” said Commonwealth Fund President David Blumenthal, M.D. “We have to look at the root causes of this disconnect and invest our health care dollars in ways that will allow us to live longer while enjoying better health and greater productivity.”

 

Commonwealth Fund researchers found the U.S. to be a substantial outlier when it comes to health spending. Health care consumed 17.1 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 2013, about 50 percent more than any other country. Despite being the only country in the study without universal health care coverage, government spending on health care in the U.S.—mainly for Medicare and Medicaid—was high as well, at $4,197 per person in 2013.

 

By comparison, the U.K., where all residents are covered by the National Health Service, spent $2,802 per person."

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/about-us/newsroom

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FOLLOW THE HealthCare INVESTMENT DOLLARS OF TOO MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LOBBYISTS WHO ONCE WERE ELECTED OFFICIALS. YES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

 

I want IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance and I want it paid for with MY tax dollars. THEN AGAIN THIS FAMILY SELDOM SEEKS MEDICAL CARE BECAUSE WE TRY TO LEAD A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE.

 

IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include:

 

* Wellness

* prescription drugs

• hospital

• surgical,

• outpatient services

• primary and preventive care

• emergency services,

• dental

• mental health

• home health

• physical th

erapy

• rehabilitation (including for substance abuse),

• vision care,

• hearing services including hearing aids

• chiropractic

• durable medical equipment

• palliative care

• long term care

 

NO DEDUCTIBLES – NO COPAYS

 

http://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

 

WHY MUST CONSUMERS PAY OUT THOUSANDS ANNUALLY BEFORE THE

INSURANCE KICKS IN? DUPED AGAIN!

 

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If only merrill weren't such a

 

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Then we might actually debate this ...

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July 5, 2017

"Before the Affordable Care Act, it was estimated that 45,000 Americans died each year from lacking or having no health care (study conducted by the American Journal of Public Health).

 

With the current Republican proposed health care legislation, the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) estimates that 22 million Americans will lose their health care insurance. As a state, we need to start to explore the creation of a single-payer health care system.

 

Currently, every major industrialized nation on Earth has a single payer system (France, Luxembourg, UK, New Zealand Austria). While there is no question that healthcare should be a right and not a privilege for those who can afford it, such a plan also makes sense economically.

 

Gerald Friedman, Professor of Economics at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, estimates that a single-payer health care system would save the United States $600 billion in its first year alone.

 

The savings would be generated from the elimination of bloated administrative fees associated with our current private health care system."

http://whatsupnewp.com/letter-to-the-editor-john-florez-establishing-a-single-payer-health-care-system-could-be-a-major-economic-driver/

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July 1, 2017

"We still don't know who will ultimately prevail in the debate over the future of American health care: the Republicans who want to overhaul Obamacare, or the Democrats who want to keep it in place.

 

But, after weeks of debate, there is one clear winner so far: single-payer health care.

 

No, single-payer isn't going to happen at the end of this debate — or even the end of this year or this decade, necessarily. But the logical foundations for it are being laid in our political debate just about every single day. And when you pair that with the rising public support for government-run health care, it's clear in which direction this whole debate is trending."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/01/the-biggest-winner-in-the-current-health-care-debate-single-payer/?utm_term=.1d16cd46f93a

 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-support-for-single-payer-health-coverage-grows-driven-by-democrats/

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Members of the house and senate have not put forth a fair or affordable health insurance plan in 60 years. Members of the

house and senate instead allow the insurance industry to design whatever then pay back elected officials billions of campaign

dollars over time ….those are health care dollars btw.

 

Taxpayers realize that the medical insurance industry is as corrupt as the mafia, President Trump, too many in the house and senate and our election system.

 

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Seems to me the Republicans have a Plan A, and a Plan B on this...

 

BOTH have the potential to work, BUT, Plan B, although it will take a little longer, will EXPOSE Obamacare for the IMPLODING Democrat CREATED MESS that it REALLY is, and be a MILLSTONE around the necks of the Democrats going into the CRUCIAL 2018 election...

Obama Care was far from perfect. What Obama Care was designed to do is to be the first step for American health care, the first step for Single Payer. Hope you realize the importance of that.

 

With that said, Single Payer eliminates the middle men and their billions of dollars taxpayers waste. That alone will lower taxpayer costs for National Health Care for all Americans.

 

And that is why Tramp Care will also be a failure. Got it??

If only merrill weren't such a

 

 

Then we might actually debate this ...

Whats to debate idiot? The GOP plan is a fucking failure rejected by your own GOP members & the American people, Loser.

 

Tramp Care will fail like Obama Care, because Americans want single payer national health care. Get used to the idea Loser.

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Obama Care was far from perfect. What Obama Care was designed to do is to be the first step for American health care, the first step for Single Payer. Hope you realize the importance of that.

 

With that said, Single Payer eliminates the middle men and their billions of dollars taxpayers waste. That alone will lower taxpayer costs for National Health Care for all Americans.

 

And that is why Tramp Care will also be a failure. Got it??

Whats to debate idiot? The GOP plan is a fucking failure rejected by your own GOP members & the American people, Loser.

 

Tramp Care will fail like Obama Care, because Americans want single payer national health care. Get used to the idea Loser.

+1 Welcome to the board Mellow.. Well said.. I too believe our government should manage our health care and not the private sector.

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HealthCare Is A Right

Taxpayers do realize that the medical insurance industry is as corrupt as the mafia,conservatives, Koch boys, Newt Gingrich, Max Baucus, and our election system.

To be fair to all in America there is only one way to satisfy the demand for ethical medical insurance coverage. That is by way of choice to consumers. I BELIEVE THIS WILL OPEN MORE DOORS MORE RAPIDLY THAN DEMANDING ONLY SINGLE PAYER.

In fact three choices for maximum satisfaction:

=== ObamaCare which retains the health insurance industry for those who fear the word Medicare or phrase Single Payer after all it is their dollar. This needs stiff federal regulations that cannot be superceded by the states. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year. Sooner or later this the lions share of this group will enroll in single payer.

=== Single Payer Medicare for ALL = excellent coverage for those who wish to enroll. The absolute best choice on planet earth.

https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

=== Self financed health care for those able to do so. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year.

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I find it odd that there is a movement from the insurance industry and politicians to prevent americans from getting healthcare with THEIR tax dollars.

 

Why does anyone care that I ,my neighbors and people I do not know want our tax dollars providing health care to millions of fine tax paying citizens.

 

For all anyone else knows the loudest voices against "health care for all americans" pay no taxes whatsoever due to tax havens and loopholes.

 

It should matter that americans want another source of insurance and want to pay for it with THEIR money aka tax dollars.

 

No one is asking anyone to drop their insurance of choice. Let the people make the choice instead of politicians forcing insurance companies down our throats.

 

Elected officials should consider Single Health Insurance for themselves as a means of reducing the cost of government.

 

WHY wouldn't TAXPAYERS want THEIR tax dollars to cover the expense of THEIR own medical insurance? What in the world is wrong with that? What could be more american?

 

=== How to pay for Single Payer health Insurance:

 

*60% of insured are covered with taxes as we speak at $1.6 trillion which is very close to the cost of insuring the entire nation.

 

*Cut subsidies going to wealthy industries.

 

*Cut defense budget 50%

 

* Cutting corporate welfare and the the war machine by 50% added to the $1.6 trillion covering health insuarnce bills as we speak should be more than enough.

 

*Do not make employers fund health insurance. This would increase cost of their products or services.

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Whats to debate idiot? The GOP plan is a fucking failure rejected by your own GOP members & the American people, Loser.

 

Tramp Care will fail like Obama Care, because Americans want single payer national health care. Get used to the idea Loser.

 

 

So whose sock are you?

 

merrill's? (he needs to explain why he runs from honest debate)

 

shintao's? (he posts about "Tramp Care")

 

Or XO's (he likes to call me "Loser")?

 

Or are you just another unoriginal, cowardly, leftist drone come to join this forum and pretend like you know something?

 

Bets anyone?

 

:D

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The UK baby is a preview of single-payer.

 

 

Try to keep up Phoenix.


Obama Care was far from perfect. What Obama Care was designed to do is to be the first step for American health care, the first step for Single Payer. Hope you realize the importance of that.

 

With that said, Single Payer eliminates the middle men and their billions of dollars taxpayers waste. That alone will lower taxpayer costs for National Health Care for all Americans.

 

And that is why Tramp Care will also be a failure. Got it??


Whats to debate idiot? The GOP plan is a fucking failure rejected by your own GOP members & the American people, Loser.

 

Tramp Care will fail like Obama Care, because Americans want single payer national health care. Get used to the idea Loser.

"Single Payer eliminates the middle men"

 

 

Nope! The government becomes the middle man.

 

 

With a debt of $20 Trillion now...I think I'll pass on single-payer. aka: single-slayer

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Single payer would be fine as long as the constitution isn't violated

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I find it odd that there is a movement from the insurance industry and politicians to prevent americans from getting healthcare with THEIR tax dollars.

 

 

July 10, 2009

BILL MOYERS: Why is public insurance, a public option, so fiercely opposed by the industry?

 

WENDELL POTTER: The industry doesn't want to have any competitor. In fact, over the course of the last few years, has been shrinking the number of competitors through a lot of acquisitions and mergers. So first of all, they don't want any more competition period. They certainly don't want it from a government plan that might be operating more efficiently than they are, that they operate. The Medicare program that we have here is a government-run program that has administrative expenses that are like three percent or so.

 

BILL MOYERS: Compared to the industry's--

 

WENDELL POTTER: They spend about 20 cents of every premium dollar on overhead, which is administrative expense or profit. So they don't want to compete against a more efficient competitor.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/transcript2.html

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Single payer would be fine as long as the constitution isn't violated

 

Medicare violates the Constitution???

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The UK baby is a preview of single-payer.

Try to keep up Phoenix.

"Single Payer eliminates the middle men"

Nope! The government becomes the middle man.

 

With a debt of $20 Trillion now...I think I'll pass on single-payer. aka: single-slayer

Liberals actually believe government will just pay for everything they want.

We already see that Medicaid sucks, yet these idiots are actually cheering to have everyone put on that miserable plan.

Of course they have no idea how it would be paid for, outside their standard "Tax the rich" stupidity.

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We already see that Medicaid sucks....

 

ooooooooooooooooooooooo.....geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....so-many examples!!

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"When Donald Trump and Republicans talk about tax reform, it’s code for slashing taxes on the wealthy while defunding health care, the social safety net, education, medical research and more.

 

Sen. Orrin Hatch is the Republican point person in Congress tasked with making this nightmare a reality. As chair of the Senate Finance Committee, he has just asked for “feedback from industry groups on tax reform.

 

Hatch and Trump clearly expect comments only from big tax-dodging corporations and wealthy Wall Street speculators. But already, thousands of comments are flooding in from Main Street Americans opposing the Republican tax plan and demanding not one penny in tax cuts for the super-wealthy and big corporations.

 

We need to pour it on, and we only have until July 17 to respond."

 

HERE, AND NOW!!!!

https://act.credoaction.com/sign/no_wallst_handouts?t=5&akid=24036.12860983.PbcVe2

 

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HealthCare Is A Right

Taxpayers do realize that the medical insurance industry is as corrupt as the mafia,conservatives, Koch boys, Newt Gingrich, Max Baucus, and our election system.

To be fair to all in America there is only one way to satisfy the demand for ethical medical insurance coverage. That is by way of choice to consumers. I BELIEVE THIS WILL OPEN MORE DOORS MORE RAPIDLY THAN DEMANDING ONLY SINGLE PAYER.

In fact three choices for maximum satisfaction:

=== ObamaCare which retains the health insurance industry for those who fear the word Medicare or phrase Single Payer after all it is their dollar. This needs stiff federal regulations that cannot be superceded by the states. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year. Sooner or later this the lions share of this group will enroll in single payer.

=== Single Payer Medicare for ALL = excellent coverage for those who wish to enroll. The absolute best choice on planet earth.

https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

=== Self financed health care for those able to do so. Offer a tax dollar rebate at the end of every year.

 

 

the bottom line for America !

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