BeAChooser Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Here’s an interesting article …http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2017/01/who-is-founding-father-of-fake-news.html Who is the founding father of fake news?There's a lot of talk about "fake news" these days, but lost in the 'here we are' is the 'how did we get here'. Some websites have proclaimed Dan Rather the founder of fake news, others have crowned Brian Williams as such. Understanding fake news is impossible without a full-scale structural analysis of "objective journalism" itself, because "objective journalism" was designed to facilitate fake news. The name to know is Walter Lippmann.Walter Lippmann is generally regarded as the father of modern journalism, and as most of us know, modern journalism is what it is today because of the concept of objectivity. It is because of Lippmann and the work he did that journalists decided to go the "objective" route in the first place, instead of their prior mode which was openly partisan and in some cases, yellow.The problem is Lippmann's writings. On the one hand, Lippmann perched himself up on a lofty elite tower and scolded other journalists of his day for their mis-reporting deeds in some of his writings - most notably, "A Test of the News". But then on the other hand, Lippmann is the inventor of the phrase "Manufacture of Consent" in his book "Public Opinion". As a journalist, Lippmann really only had one way to "manufacture" said consent, and that was through journals, magazines, editorials, and news reports. This alone should be enough to pique the curiosity of people interested in fake news, to take a look into this "manufacture of consent" and see what it is all about. What is "the manufacture of consent" about anyways?Being published prior to 1923, his book "Public Opinion" is 100% free and in the public domain. It also has its due as a challenging read. And its not like Lippmann outright states in the simplest terms "I want to use news reporting to manipulate people".Instead, Lippmann will use two or three pages (358 and 359) to enunciate his point that 1) News and truth are not the same thing, 2) there is only a small body of actual truth in the large body of information, and 3) the rest is in the journalist's own discretion.In other words, a journalist has a gold card to lie all they want.Lippmann spends nearly 20% of his book on the concept of "stereotypes". He was obsessed with stereotypes because he believed that was where his greatest moment of opportunity was at for effectively leveraging these stereotypes against the reader. Page 355 is quite possibly the most important page in the book, from the standpoint of understanding manipulative journalism and fake news: It is a problem of provoking feeling in the reader, of inducing him to feel a sense of personal identification with the stories he is reading. News which does not offer this opportunity to introduce oneself into the struggle which it depicts cannot appeal to a wide audience. The audience must participate in the news, much as it participates in the drama, by personal identification. Just as everyone holds his breath when the heroine is in danger, as he helps Babe Ruth swing his bat, so in subtler form the reader enters into the news. In order that he shall enter he must find a familiar foothold in the story, and this is supplied to him by the use of stereotypes. They tell him that if an association of plumbers is called a "combine" it is appropriate to develop his hostility; if it is called a "group of leading business men" the cue is for a favorable reaction.It is in a combination of these elements that the power to create opinion resides. Editorials reinforce. The key to Lippmann's book though is the culture, not one or two or a handful pull quotes. The culture of the book is the indictment. The culture of the book is 400+ pages of media manipulation, in one way or another, especially that 20% that is devoted to stereotypes. That's what the stereotypes are for. It's all about manipulation.For those who prefer audiobooks over printed text, Public Opinion is also downloadable in MP3 format. That will give you preference options in learning more about the roots of fake news.Being able to discuss in detail the history of fake news in its entirety, not just starting in the year 2004 - now that's a powerful thing indeed. Now why is this interesting other than the fact that Fake News is so much in the news? Because Walter Lippman was a Fabian Socialist/Communist. He joined the Fabian Society in 1909. I keep trying to tell you folks that they are the ultimate problem. They are what is behind much of what we see the Democratic Party and left doing today. Lippman was one of the founding editors of the leftist magazine New Republic and became a chief advisor to Woodrow Wilson, who behaved like a Fabian Socialist and did much to further their agenda. Lipman later became a member of FDR’s vaunted “brain trust”, and FDR did much to push the Fabian plan for America. At one point Lippman openly advocated that FDR become a dictator. He was influenced, presumably, by Stalin's apparent success as one. He urged cooperation with Stalin's Soviet Union in it's attempt to build a *socialist* Europe and a world socialist order. In other words, he wanted to see a communist world. In his later writings, which were naively labeled anti-communist, he took issue with the Soviet way of implementing a communist-like world. He lamented that the "revolution" should have taken place in advanced capitalist countries such as the US and England, rather than underdeveloped Russia. Implied is that then it might have succeeded. He didn't give up on communism (at least the fairness goals that communists espoused), he gave up on the Soviet State to implement it. But he didn't give up on the American State to implement it. And to prove that, consider this. Graham Wallas was a noted Fabian Socialist (i.e, communist) … co-founder of the London School of Economics, the core institution of Fabians. He wrote a book in 1914 titled "Great Society: A Psychological Analysis" in which he analyzed "the general social organization of a large modern state" (https://archive.org/stream/greatsocietyaps01wallgoog#page/n8/mode/2up ). If you read between the lines of the book, it's a text on understanding society well enough to manipulate people … something Fabians needed to be successful at if they were to continue to spread their ideology. I'm sure more than a few studied his book in detail. Indeed, the LATimes would write in 1989 that "some chroniclers" claim LBJ's naming his programs the Great Society can be traced to Wallas' book. Certainly, Fabian Socialist (communist) Stuart Chase lent considerable support to LBJ's "Great Society" policies. But even more interesting for this particular post is that the Preface of Wallas' book contains a letter Wallas wrote to Walter Lippmann, introducing the book to him as possibly useful in Lippmann's future writings. And indeed, in 1937, Lippmann wrote a book titled, coincidently enough, "The Good Society".And on top of that, Lippmann was also an advisor to LBJ. Here's an audio of the two chatting on the phone in 1963: http://millercenter.org/presidentialrecordings/lbj-k6312.01-15 . It's quite interesting. And here's an article Lippmann wrote in 1965 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19650112&id=CSERAAAAIBAJ&sjid=MooDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5911,695022 ) titled "The Principle of the Great Society". In it, he calls what's happening "a benign revolution" and suggests the "basic idea" is that America can be "governed by consensus" now. Lippmann suggests the Great Society is a breakthrough - that we are escaping from the immemorial human predicament of the haves and the have-nots. This predicament has been based on the assumption that the size of the pie to be divided is fixed and that, therefore, if some have more, others must take less.The assumption that this predicament exists has been the central idea of socialism and communism. However, it has also been the tacit assumption of recent reformist and welfare programs. We can see this in slogans like "the New Deal" and "the Fair Deal." Both imply that there is always the same pack to be dealt. So you see, Lippman not only admits that the New Deal and Fair Deal were socialist/communist in nature, but implies that we can now achieve the fairness goal that socialists/communists said they wanted … without labeling it that … because technology and our understanding of economic theory (like using planned deficits) will allow us to afford to improve schools and colleges (manipulate young minds), reduce poverty (manipulate the poor) and rebuild slums without concern about limited resources (money grows on trees). He said "if a modern society like ours need no longer think of itself as irreconcileably divided over the distribution of wealth, it has become humanly possible to govern by obtaining wide agreement of the voters." Yes indeed, a communist paradise.In short, he didn't give up on the GOALS of communism. He was simply applauding a new way to achieve those goals … one that would turn out to be just as pie in the sky as the one he'd previously espoused. Too bad that once that consensus he called for failed and the new economics/policies he glorified didn't work as intended, the fallback position of the Democrats (Fabian Socialists) was once again to call for more SHARING OF THE WEALTH, communist style, something Obama was still chanting. And were Lippmann alive, I have to wonder if he'd be out there amongst the protesters chanting that again. Isn’t history wonderful, folks? If you learn it, it can help make sure you don't repeat it. Just saying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndependentSam Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Liberals and the Main Stream Media have been peddling FAKE News for a long time... What I find amusing... is that the term "Fake News" recently came into use, because HILLARY Clinton tried to make it a phrase to describe the release of Wikileaks e-mails, and essentially "REAL NEWS" surrounding the CORRUPTION, COLLUSION, and LIES that the DNC, the Liberals and Hillary Clinton had been CAUGHT engaging in... and were involved with... HOWEVER, people quickly realized that REAL e-mails, describing REAL events, about Hillary, the DNC, Liberal Donors, and Hillary supporters were NOT "FAKE". But what the Liberal Media had been doing, WAS FAKE !! SO they REJECTED ALL of the WIKILEAKS information as being "Fake"... but the term has STUCK for the Liberal Media who REPEATEDLY has MADE UP stories against Conservatives, Republicans and Donald Trump... PEOPLE made the decision that THAT was the REAL "FAKE NEWS", Not what the Liberals had originally intended... I think the Liberal Media, the Liberals and the Democrats are going to have to LIVE with the monster that THEY CREATED, for a LONG time...as "Fake News" becomes a LARGER and LARGER rallying cry AGAINST the DISHONEST Liberal Media... NICE JOB Libs !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doodsaq Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Bowling Green Massacre. Please donate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 How ironic. The resident crackpot, peddler of conspiracy theories about Vince Foster and longstanding board members all being "tommy" starting a thread on fake news. Fake news is Chooser`s forte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 How ironic. The resident crackpot, peddler of conspiracy theories about Vince Foster and longstanding board members all being "tommy" starting a thread on fake news. Fake news is Chooser`s forte Zero wants refugees to grab her pussy because no one else will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Zero wants refugees to grab her pussy because no one else will. I left a pussy grab for you on your idiotic "isis is funding..." thread. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I left a pussy grab for you on your idiotic "isis is funding..." thread. Enjoy Poor Zero. Too ignorant to debate, but too stupid to shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaro Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Poor Zero. Too ignorant to debate, but too stupid to shut up. ^^ hid during the pussy grabbing crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfboy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 ^^ hid during the pussy grabbing crisis ^^ liar always trots out this claim when she's lost an argument. Wants Muslim refugees to grab her pussy because she can't pay anyone else to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skans Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Didn't "fake news" used to be called muckraking in the mid 1800's? I believe the term muckraker was used in the progressive era to characterize radical American journalists who attacked established institutions and leaders with dirty journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skews13 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Here’s an interesting article … http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2017/01/who-is-founding-father-of-fake-news.html Now why is this interesting other than the fact that Fake News is so much in the news? Because Walter Lippman was a Fabian Socialist/Communist. He joined the Fabian Society in 1909. I keep trying to tell you folks that they are the ultimate problem. They are what is behind much of what we see the Democratic Party and left doing today. Lippman was one of the founding editors of the leftist magazine New Republic and became a chief advisor to Woodrow Wilson, who behaved like a Fabian Socialist and did much to further their agenda. Lipman later became a member of FDR’s vaunted “brain trust”, and FDR did much to push the Fabian plan for America. At one point Lippman openly advocated that FDR become a dictator. He was influenced, presumably, by Stalin's apparent success as one. He urged cooperation with Stalin's Soviet Union in it's attempt to build a *socialist* Europe and a world socialist order. In other words, he wanted to see a communist world. In his later writings, which were naively labeled anti-communist, he took issue with the Soviet way of implementing a communist-like world. He lamented that the "revolution" should have taken place in advanced capitalist countries such as the US and England, rather than underdeveloped Russia. Implied is that then it might have succeeded. He didn't give up on communism (at least the fairness goals that communists espoused), he gave up on the Soviet State to implement it. But he didn't give up on the American State to implement it. And to prove that, consider this. Graham Wallas was a noted Fabian Socialist (i.e, communist) … co-founder of the London School of Economics, the core institution of Fabians. He wrote a book in 1914 titled "Great Society: A Psychological Analysis" in which he analyzed "the general social organization of a large modern state" (https://archive.org/stream/greatsocietyaps01wallgoog#page/n8/mode/2up ). If you read between the lines of the book, it's a text on understanding society well enough to manipulate people … something Fabians needed to be successful at if they were to continue to spread their ideology. I'm sure more than a few studied his book in detail. Indeed, the LATimes would write in 1989 that "some chroniclers" claim LBJ's naming his programs the Great Society can be traced to Wallas' book. Certainly, Fabian Socialist (communist) Stuart Chase lent considerable support to LBJ's "Great Society" policies. But even more interesting for this particular post is that the Preface of Wallas' book contains a letter Wallas wrote to Walter Lippmann, introducing the book to him as possibly useful in Lippmann's future writings. And indeed, in 1937, Lippmann wrote a book titled, coincidently enough, "The Good Society". And on top of that, Lippmann was also an advisor to LBJ. Here's an audio of the two chatting on the phone in 1963: http://millercenter.org/presidentialrecordings/lbj-k6312.01-15 . It's quite interesting. And here's an article Lippmann wrote in 1965 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19650112&id=CSERAAAAIBAJ&sjid=MooDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5911,695022 ) titled "The Principle of the Great Society". In it, he calls what's happening "a benign revolution" and suggests the "basic idea" is that America can be "governed by consensus" now. Lippmann suggests the Great Society is So you see, Lippman not only admits that the New Deal and Fair Deal were socialist/communist in nature, but implies that we can now achieve the fairness goal that socialists/communists said they wanted … without labeling it that … because technology and our understanding of economic theory (like using planned deficits) will allow us to afford to improve schools and colleges (manipulate young minds), reduce poverty (manipulate the poor) and rebuild slums without concern about limited resources (money grows on trees). He said "if a modern society like ours need no longer think of itself as irreconcileably divided over the distribution of wealth, it has become humanly possible to govern by obtaining wide agreement of the voters." Yes indeed, a communist paradise. In short, he didn't give up on the GOALS of communism. He was simply applauding a new way to achieve those goals … one that would turn out to be just as pie in the sky as the one he'd previously espoused. Too bad that once that consensus he called for failed and the new economics/policies he glorified didn't work as intended, the fallback position of the Democrats (Fabian Socialists) was once again to call for more SHARING OF THE WEALTH, communist style, something Obama was still chanting. And were Lippmann alive, I have to wonder if he'd be out there amongst the protesters chanting that again. Isn’t history wonderful, folks? If you learn it, it can help make sure you don't repeat it. Just saying ... Shows just how ignorant you are. Which comes as a surprise to nobody. The founding father of fake news was William Randolph Hearst. It's a cancer that still plagues our society to this day, because conservatives are easily sold suckers. Fortunately the demographic population change occuring in the country is accelerating, and it will only be another 30 years before their voices will be drowned out by a new younger generation that won't be supporting todays failed conservative policies. Since all of todays older conservatives who are responsible for the failures and divisions in the country will be dead. They won't be around to be voicing opinions about anything. Polling shows that Millennials are less religious, more tolerant, and support socialism on a much larger scale than their parents. Imagine how Liberal, a socialist accepting their children will be. This is where your country is headed loser. Thanks for playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadman Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Trump is a contributor of 'fake news'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeAChooser Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 How ironic. The resident crackpot, peddler of conspiracy theories about Vince Foster and longstanding board members all being "tommy" starting a thread on fake news. Fake news is Chooser`s forte Poor little Sixteen. Still upset about not getting to vote for ANYONE in the last election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skans Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Here's some "fake news": While in public office, Barack Obama DID NOT take a bribe in the form of valuable real estate from convicted fraud, briber, money launderer, and extortionist TONY REZKO. Oh, and Rezko was released from prison in July of 2015 - do you think Obama had something to do with that as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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