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Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved FOREVER and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

Conservative Mitt Romney and his business associates have been doing the same thing for years by way of tricky leveraged buyout loans of course financed with risky loans from big banks and such.

 

Conservatives CRASHING THE ECONOMY

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

 

--- The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/18/1352819/--The-Bush-Brothers-are-Bank-Robbers#

 

--- The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Home Loan Heist

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/02/25/700272/-FBI-Kills-RUSH-s-Blame-the-Borrower-Meme-and-Ignore-the-Money-Launderers-UPDATED

 

--- What happened to the $700 billion of bank bail out money?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

 

--- Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

 

--- Still A Bad Idea –The GOP ENTITLEMENT Package for the wealtiest 1%.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2001/0301miller.html

 

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Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

 

More SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

 

 

David Cay Johnson – Social Security Is Not Going Broke

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/

 

SSI was a pay as you go system until 1984. SSI has been successful for 87 years. Now Wall Street wants SSI money flowing their way which would create a huge windfall for the very wealthy investors. This is fraud against the system and retirees.

 

It will cost taxpayers something like $4 trillion in new debt to convert to private accounts... more fraud. As usual debt means nothing to reckless conservatives once they become in charge. Supply Side Economics is based on big debt and reckless borrowing.

 

However retirees would not have all of their money at the moment they want to retire. Can SSI retirees afford to lose money? Of course not.

 

Remember only those who can afford to lose money play Wall Street.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement

plans,economies at the speed of light thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

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Doctors and health care facilities do not like the medical insurance industry because the medical insurance industry interferes with health care AND the medical insurance industry is over loaded with bureaucracy which requires a large staff to keep after reimbursement.

 

Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

 

More SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

 

 

David Cay Johnson – Social Security Is Not Going Broke

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/

 

SSI was a pay as you go system until 1984. SSI has been successful for 87 years. Now Wall Street wants SSI money flowing their way which would create a huge windfall for the very wealthy investors. This is fraud against the system and retirees.

 

It will cost taxpayers something like $4 trillion in new debt to convert to private accounts... more fraud. As usual debt means nothing to reckless conservatives once they become in charge. Supply Side Economics is based on big debt and reckless borrowing.

 

However retirees would not have all of their money at the moment they want to retire. Can SSI retirees afford to lose money? Of course not.

 

Remember only those who can afford to lose money play Wall Street.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement

plans,economies at the speed of light thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

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Liberal Democrat LIES....

 

Social Security is going BROKE... there are more people taking out, than putting in, and it will be COMPLETELY broke by 2025-2030. Medicare, is much the same... and Obama wanted to double down with Obamacare...

 

HOW, can America survive, if these social PROGRAMS are paying out TRILLIONS more than they are taking in? Things do NOT work well, when our lifestyle is based on debt... it's only a matter of time before be become a Banana Republic... but Liberals DO NOT CARE !!

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* Politicians as shareholders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

 

Current White Collar Crime:

Medicare Fraud Indictments

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401906.html

 

 

Senate Report Finds Insurers Wrongfully Charged Consumers Billions

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

 

 

Lots of people go out of business due to mismanagement why not the medical insurance business? People would not be left without medical insurance.


Merrill still can't explain how expanding an already failing program could happen, other than "throw more money at it".

Then the time has come to shut down the medical insurance industry ..........

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* Politicians as shareholders:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

 

 

Current White Collar Crime:

Medicare Fraud Indictments

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401906.html

 

 

Senate Report Finds Insurers Wrongfully Charged Consumers Billions

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

 

 

 

Lots of people go out of business due to mismanagement why not the medical insurance business? People would not be left without medical insurance.

Then the time has come to shut down the medical insurance industry ..........

 

No merrill, the TIME HAS COME to PURGE THE NATION OF LIBERRHOID ASSHOLES LIKE YOU!!

 

Oh WAIT!!! That happened Nov. 8th, 2016.

 

NOW the ADULTS are in charge and little pussy boys like you can go sit in your safe space, play with your playDUH, and coloring books and whine like the FUCKTARDS YOU ARE!!

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Merrill still can't explain how expanding an already failing program could happen, other than "throw more money at it".

 

Yeah.....money that goes straight-into the local-economy.....rather-than into some 1%ers off$hore-account.

Whatta fuckin' tragedy.

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Doctors and health care facilities do not like the medical insurance industry because the medical insurance industry interferes with health care AND the medical insurance industry is over loaded with bureaucracy which requires a large staff to keep after reimbursement.

 

Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

 

More SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

 

 

David Cay Johnson – Social Security Is Not Going Broke

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/

 

SSI was a pay as you go system until 1984. SSI has been successful for 87 years. Now Wall Street wants SSI money flowing their way which would create a huge windfall for the very wealthy investors. This is fraud against the system and retirees.

 

It will cost taxpayers something like $4 trillion in new debt to convert to private accounts... more fraud. As usual debt means nothing to reckless conservatives once they become in charge. Supply Side Economics is based on big debt and reckless borrowing.

 

However retirees would not have all of their money at the moment they want to retire. Can SSI retirees afford to lose money? Of course not.

 

Remember only those who can afford to lose money play Wall Street.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement

plans,economies at the speed of light thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

 

 

Discussions of Social Security too often focus on technical questions rather than the broader goals of the program.

 

Generations of Americans have built the Social Security system because we believe that all Americans should work hard and provide for our families’ economic security through a lifetime of contributions and, in turn, know that our families will be able to live in dignity when we retire, become disabled, or suffer premature death.

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Doctors and health care facilities do not like the medical insurance industry because the medical insurance industry interferes with health care AND the medical insurance industry is over loaded with bureaucracy which requires a large staff to keep after reimbursement.

 

Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

 

More SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

 

 

David Cay Johnson – Social Security Is Not Going Broke

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/

 

SSI was a pay as you go system until 1984. SSI has been successful for 87 years. Now Wall Street wants SSI money flowing their way which would create a huge windfall for the very wealthy investors. This is fraud against the system and retirees.

 

It will cost taxpayers something like $4 trillion in new debt to convert to private accounts... more fraud. As usual debt means nothing to reckless conservatives once they become in charge. Supply Side Economics is based on big debt and reckless borrowing.

 

However retirees would not have all of their money at the moment they want to retire. Can SSI retirees afford to lose money? Of course not.

 

Remember only those who can afford to lose money play Wall Street.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement

plans,economies at the speed of light thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

 

 

Medicare is More Efficient

 

 

--- The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) demonstrate definitively that private insurance is increasingly less efficient than Medicare. The data show that Congress should examine and address the role that private insurance is playing in driving up overall health care costs.

 

 

--- Medicare Has Controlled Costs Better Than Private Insurance

.

According to CMS, for common benefits, Medicare spending rose by an average of 4.3 percent each year between 1997 and 2009, while private insurance premiums grew at a rate of 6.5 percent per year. (See Table 13)

According to a calculation by the National Academy for Social Insurance, if spending on Medicare rose at the same rate as private insurance premiums during that period, Medicare would have cost an additional $114 billion (or 31.7 percent).

The CBO explicitly stated that its data on relative cost growth should not be used to make the argument that Goodman and Saving make, writing that the relatively low growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid “should not be interpreted as meaning that Medicare or Medicaid is less able to control spending than private insurers.” Goodman and Saving mistakenly suggest that the growth rate of private insurance is the same as the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid; however, as CBO points out, the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid includes not just spending by private insurers, but also government programs and out-of-pocket costs paid by the uninsured.

The CBO has predicted that the rising cost of private insurance will continue to outstrip Medicare for the next 30 years. The private insurance equivalent of Medicare would cost almost 40 percent more in 2022 for a typical 65-year old.

 

 

--- Medicare Has Lower Administrative Costs Than Private Plans.

.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, administrative costs in Medicare are only about 2 percent of operating expenditures. Defenders of the insurance industry estimate administrative costs as 17 percent of revenue.

Insurance industry-funded studies exclude private plans’ marketing costs and profits from their calculation of administrative costs. Even so, Medicare’s overhead is dramatically lower.

Medicare administrative cost figures include the collection of Medicare taxes, fraud and abuse controls, and building costs.

 

 

 

--- So-called “competition” in the private health care market has driven costs up.

.

In most local markets, providers have monopoly power. Consequently, private insurers lack the bargaining power to contain prices.

In most areas, two or three dominant insurers dominate the regional market, limit competition and make it extremely difficult if not impossible for new insurers to enter the marketplace and stimulate price competition.

Medicare Advantage, which enrolls seniors in private health plans, has failed to deliver care more efficiently than traditional fee-for-service Medicare. Both the CBO and the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), the commission which advises congress on Medicare’s finances, have calculated that Medicare Advantage plans covering the same care as traditional Medicare cost 12 percent more.

Karen Ignagni, who heads America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the insurance industry’s trade association, has admitted that private plans cannot bargain down provider costs and has asked Washington to intervene.

 

 

 

--- Medicare Is Publicly Accountable, Private Plans Are Not

 

 

When it comes to how much it costs private plans to deliver care, or individual insurer innovations that deliver value, the publicly available data are scarce. Goodman and Saving present only one study on the ways that insurers try to control costs, and this was published by AHIP. Because Medicare is publicly accountable, it allows us to study what works so that we can improve the health care system.

.

The authors cite a number of innovations that could lower the cost of care, but all of them have been introduced by doctors and clinics, not insurers. Because insurance companies treat their claims data as trade secrets, we do not know if they have adopted such innovations.

Even government-funded Medicare Advantage plans don’t release payment and coverage data.

 

 

A closer look at the data shows that, contrary to Goodman and Saving’s claims, Medicare delivers health care more efficiently than private insurers. Medicare’s public accountability and bargaining power give it the ability to drive system change and control skyrocketing health care costs, while profit-driven private insurers have offered no solution.

 

 

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2011/09/20/medicare-is-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/

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Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved FOREVER and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

Conservative Mitt Romney and his business associates have been doing the same thing for years by way of tricky leveraged buyout loans of course financed with risky loans from big banks and such.

 

Conservatives CRASHING THE ECONOMY

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

 

--- The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/18/1352819/--The-Bush-Brothers-are-Bank-Robbers#

 

--- The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Home Loan Heist

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/02/25/700272/-FBI-Kills-RUSH-s-Blame-the-Borrower-Meme-and-Ignore-the-Money-Launderers-UPDATED

 

--- What happened to the $700 billion of bank bail out money?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

 

--- Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

 

--- Still A Bad Idea –The GOP ENTITLEMENT Package for the wealtiest 1%.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2001/0301miller.html

 

 

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Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance everyone will pay less because all in the USA will be paying their fair share.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance everyone in the USA is paying their own way nobody gets off the hook.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every clinic,hospital,doctor and such gets paid thus decreasing the cost of medical care.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance an estimated 2.4 million new jobs are created because the bills for medical care are getting paid..... as they should.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance the USA workforce is evermore productive due to active health and wellness programs.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every child in the USA never has to do without medical and dental care ever.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every senior citizen in the USA never has to without medical and dental care.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every soldier will never again need to wait for the defense department and capitol hill to declare a condition as service connected BECAUSE they will be covered for whatever. The families will be forever grateful.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every local community will experience a boost in economic growth because all of the new health care jobs will in fact create other jobs in a community.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance everyone will be healthier thus happier.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance every household will have more $$$$$ to spend and/or invest in their retirement or buy a home or buy a piano or invest in a college education for themselves or children.

 

Just think with Medicare Single Payer Insurance the entire economy is stronger and far more substantial.

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Medicare is More Efficient

 

 

--- The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) demonstrate definitively that private insurance is increasingly less efficient than Medicare. The data show that Congress should examine and address the role that private insurance is playing in driving up overall health care costs.

 

 

--- Medicare Has Controlled Costs Better Than Private Insurance

.

According to CMS, for common benefits, Medicare spending rose by an average of 4.3 percent each year between 1997 and 2009, while private insurance premiums grew at a rate of 6.5 percent per year. (See Table 13)

According to a calculation by the National Academy for Social Insurance, if spending on Medicare rose at the same rate as private insurance premiums during that period, Medicare would have cost an additional $114 billion (or 31.7 percent).

The CBO explicitly stated that its data on relative cost growth should not be used to make the argument that Goodman and Saving make, writing that the relatively low growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid “should not be interpreted as meaning that Medicare or Medicaid is less able to control spending than private insurers.” Goodman and Saving mistakenly suggest that the growth rate of private insurance is the same as the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid; however, as CBO points out, the growth rate of all health care expenditures other than Medicare and Medicaid includes not just spending by private insurers, but also government programs and out-of-pocket costs paid by the uninsured.

The CBO has predicted that the rising cost of private insurance will continue to outstrip Medicare for the next 30 years. The private insurance equivalent of Medicare would cost almost 40 percent more in 2022 for a typical 65-year old.

 

 

--- Medicare Has Lower Administrative Costs Than Private Plans.

.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, administrative costs in Medicare are only about 2 percent of operating expenditures. Defenders of the insurance industry estimate administrative costs as 17 percent of revenue.

Insurance industry-funded studies exclude private plans’ marketing costs and profits from their calculation of administrative costs. Even so, Medicare’s overhead is dramatically lower.

Medicare administrative cost figures include the collection of Medicare taxes, fraud and abuse controls, and building costs.

 

 

 

--- So-called “competition” in the private health care market has driven costs up.

.

In most local markets, providers have monopoly power. Consequently, private insurers lack the bargaining power to contain prices.

In most areas, two or three dominant insurers dominate the regional market, limit competition and make it extremely difficult if not impossible for new insurers to enter the marketplace and stimulate price competition.

Medicare Advantage, which enrolls seniors in private health plans, has failed to deliver care more efficiently than traditional fee-for-service Medicare. Both the CBO and the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), the commission which advises congress on Medicare’s finances, have calculated that Medicare Advantage plans covering the same care as traditional Medicare cost 12 percent more.

Karen Ignagni, who heads America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the insurance industry’s trade association, has admitted that private plans cannot bargain down provider costs and has asked Washington to intervene.

 

 

 

--- Medicare Is Publicly Accountable, Private Plans Are Not

 

 

When it comes to how much it costs private plans to deliver care, or individual insurer innovations that deliver value, the publicly available data are scarce. Goodman and Saving present only one study on the ways that insurers try to control costs, and this was published by AHIP. Because Medicare is publicly accountable, it allows us to study what works so that we can improve the health care system.

.

The authors cite a number of innovations that could lower the cost of care, but all of them have been introduced by doctors and clinics, not insurers. Because insurance companies treat their claims data as trade secrets, we do not know if they have adopted such innovations.

Even government-funded Medicare Advantage plans don’t release payment and coverage data.

 

 

A closer look at the data shows that, contrary to Goodman and Saving’s claims, Medicare delivers health care more efficiently than private insurers. Medicare’s public accountability and bargaining power give it the ability to drive system change and control skyrocketing health care costs, while profit-driven private insurers have offered no solution.

 

 

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2011/09/20/medicare-is-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/

 

 

THE medical insurance industry DOES NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE which in effect classifies the medical insurance industry a scam that which kicks back zillions to campaign cookie jars.

 

The gov't shells out $1.5 trillion tax dollar annually to the health care industry... insurers and such. That $1.5 trillion tax dollars will more than cover the cost of Medicare Single Payer Insurance.

 

Medicare Single Payer eliminates:

 

=== over 1300 CEO salaries

 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 

=== the cost of 10,400 lobbyists

 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money

 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing

 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages

 

=== advertising budgets

 

=== martini lunches

 

 

Some gov't programs are great which is why a certain group of ALEC thieves wants to own them no matter that they character assassinate these programs daily. If they are screwed why do the very rich want to own them and all of the tax dollars that come with them? The tax dollar moochers are out and about.

you love YOUR anti american ALEC politicians that represent grand theft aka stealing from taxpayers.

THE medical insurance industry DOES NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE which in effect classifies the medical insurance industry a scam that which kicks back zillions to campaign cookie jars.

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Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved FOREVER and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

Conservative Mitt Romney and his business associates have been doing the same thing for years by way of tricky leveraged buyout loans of course financed with risky loans from big banks and such.

 

Conservatives CRASHING THE ECONOMY

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/09/did-republicans-deliberately-crash-us-economy

 

--- The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/18/1352819/--The-Bush-Brothers-are-Bank-Robbers#

 

--- The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Home Loan Heist

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/02/25/700272/-FBI-Kills-RUSH-s-Blame-the-Borrower-Meme-and-Ignore-the-Money-Launderers-UPDATED

 

--- What happened to the $700 billion of bank bail out money?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

 

--- Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

 

--- Still A Bad Idea –The GOP ENTITLEMENT Package for the wealtiest 1%.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2001/0301miller.html

 

 

 

Bump up the awareness of all in America ......

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=== Health Care Realities

 

“private markets for health insurance, left to their own devices, work very badly: insurers deny as many claims as possible, and they also try to avoid covering people who are likely to need care. Horror stories are legion: the insurance company that refused to pay for urgently needed cancer surgery because of questions about the patient’s acne treatment; the healthy young woman denied coverage because she briefly saw a psychologist after breaking up with her boyfriend.”

 

It’s a funny story — but it illustrates the extent to which health reform must climb a wall of misinformation. It’s not just that many Americans don’t understand what President Obama is proposing; many people don’t understand the way American health care works right now. They don’t understand, in particular, that getting the government involved in health care wouldn’t be a radical step: the government is already deeply involved, even in private insurance.

 

And that government involvement is the only reason our system works at all.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/opinion/31krugman.html?_r=1&em

 

 

 

=== The U.S. health insurance system is typically characterized as a largely private-sector system, so it may come as a surprise that more than 60% of the $2 trillion annual U.S. health insurance bill is paid through taxes which comes to $1.2 trillion. $1.2 trillion is a sweet gravy train for the industry.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2008/0508harrison.html

 

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How to reduce the cost of the federal government and education in a large way?

 

Hr676/S703 Healthcare Reform Report Card

https://www.healthcare-now.org/docs/spreport.pdf

 

Let's reduce health care costs by allowing all Americans the choice of low cost great coverage IMPROVED Medicare Insurance for All.

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THE medical insurance industry DOES NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE which in effect classifies the medical insurance industry a scam that which kicks back zillions to campaign cookie jars.

 

The gov't shells out $1.5 trillion tax dollar annually to the health care industry... insurers and such. That $1.5 trillion tax dollars will more than cover the cost of Medicare Single Payer Insurance.

 

Medicare Single Payer eliminates:

 

=== over 1300 CEO salaries

 

=== 1300 golden parachutes

 

=== the cost of 10,400 lobbyists

 

=== 1300 sources of special interest campaign money

 

=== 1300 different sources of administrative staffing

 

=== thousands upon thousands of commissions and bonus packages

 

=== advertising budgets

 

=== martini lunches

 

 

Some gov't programs are great which is why a certain group of ALEC thieves wants to own them no matter that they character assassinate these programs daily. If they are screwed why do the very rich want to own them and all of the tax dollars that come with them? The tax dollar moochers are out and about.

you love YOUR anti american ALEC politicians that represent grand theft aka stealing from taxpayers.

THE medical insurance industry DOES NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE which in effect classifies the medical insurance industry a scam that which kicks back zillions to campaign cookie jars.

 

 

Why pay the most expensive medical insurance industry in the world anything?

 

Never never never forget… It is the private medical insurance industry that cancels YOUR medical insurance AFTER taking YOUR MONEY for years. Years and hundreds of thousands dollars later no one has any guarantee of any coverage.

 

Not only that if an employer makes a switch there is no guarantee any coverage or same coverage will be available.

 

Face it what wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many healthy citizens pay out to insurance companies in a 12 month period they would never spend that much in 12 months no way jose'... with very very few exceptions. So why are we giving a middle man so much money? What's the point?

 

Paying out all that money is no guarantee the most expensive insurance industry will stick with you when the bills come rolling in.

 

Think about it. It's so many many many working people WITH insurance that have been forced into bankruptcy. Why pay an insurance company anything?

 

Repubs have nothing better to offer.

 

Listening to politicians on this issue is a dangerous route to accept. Listening to CEO's and lobbyists from the insurance industry is equally as dangerous as this is the source for statements coming from politicians.

 

Did you know the health care industry has 8 high dollar lobbyists per elected official? Do you know who is paying for these high dollar lobbyists? YOU ARE!

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Just keep vomiting your garbage, merrill.

The only response you're going to get from me is this.
In my opinion, no one should bother responding to anything you claim until you actually engage in a honest debate.
And so far you haven't demonstrated a willingness to do that.
You post your crap then do not respond to counterposts.
All you do now is regurgitate, regurgitate, and regurgitate the same nonsense.
So why should any of us waste time with you?
I'm certainly not going to ...
... not until you actually show you'll engage in a honest debate.
If you choose to change your ways, you can start here:
Just Saying ... :D
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Conservatives are the reason Social Security and Medicare should be saved and left alone if not improved as necessary.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement plans,economies thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.socialsecurityworks.org/faq/

 

More SSI Fact NOT Fiction

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

 

 

David Cay Johnson – Social Security Is Not Going Broke

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2012/05/04/social-security-is-not-going-broke/

 

SSI was a pay as you go system until 1984. SSI has been successful for 87 years. Now Wall Street wants SSI money flowing their way which would create a huge windfall for the very wealthy investors. This is fraud against the system and retirees.

 

It will cost taxpayers something like $4 trillion in new debt to convert to private accounts... more fraud. As usual debt means nothing to reckless conservatives once they become in charge. Supply Side Economics is based on big debt and reckless borrowing.

 

However retirees would not have all of their money at the moment they want to retire. Can SSI retirees afford to lose money? Of course not.

 

Remember only those who can afford to lose money play Wall Street.

 

Conservative administrations kill employment,retirement

plans,economies at the speed of light thus effectively wiping out medical coverage for millions upon millions.

 

 

 

After the Dow Jones stock index went down by over 75% between 1929 and 1933, the Dow did not return to its 1929 level until 1953.

 

In claiming that the rate of return on a stock investment is guaranteed to be greater than the return on Social Security Insurance would be lying. Social Security Insurance is still rock solid.

 

If an investment-firm broker made this claim to his clients, he would be arrested and charged with stock fraud.

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In claiming that the rate of return on a stock investment is guaranteed to be greater than the return on Social Security Insurance would be lying. Social Security Insurance is still rock solid.[/size]

Just keep vomiting your garbage, merrill.

 

The only response you should get is this claim is this ...

 

http://www.liberalforum.org/index.php?/topic/204015-social-security-is-backed-with-billions-in-govt-bonds/?p=1059708082

 

AND NOTHING MORE, until you finally respond to that post and the others on that thread.

 

You're nothing more than a LIAR.

 

Just Saying ... :D

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Two FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE assets to MEDICARE SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE COVERAGE:

 

 

All in America will receive the same quality healthcare no matter if rich,middle class or low income.

 

 

MEDICARE SINGLE PAYER INSURANCE will effectively remove the medical insurance coverage industry from the list of special interest campaign contributors. YES!

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Nancy Altman, Founding Co-Director, Social Security Works

Not a single candidate in 2016 campaigned on a promise to repeal and replace Social Security or Medicare. Anyone who did would have been soundly defeated. Indeed, unlike the Republican opponents he beat, Donald Trump promised not to touch Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. But now that the Republicans will soon be in charge of all branches of government, destroying Social Security and Medicare is on the top of their agenda.

Two days after the election, Paul Ryan said, “With a unified Republican government, we can actually get things done.” One of those things is ending Medicare as we know it, as I and others have spotlighted. It turns out that Social Security is in the Republicans’ cross hairs, as well. This is not a surprise. Ending Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid is Republican-elite orthodoxy.

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