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Now why would Republicans meet and vote secretly -who voted for it is not available to the public- to pass an amendment gutting the Office of Congressional Ethics? Hmm.....that's a tough one. Maybe, just maybe, and I'm going to go out on a limb here, it is because they want to act unethically like the filthy rotten criminals they are and have always been.

 

Trump may not be a billionaire now, but he sure as hell will be when he leaves office. Thanks, cons, you dumbasses. Welcome to the Big Steal and the first meeting of the Billionaire Boys Club.

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-office-congressional-ethics-rules_us_586b00e0e4b0d9a5945c34c6?vepm1jwijg7mpwrk9

 

(Full article at above link)

 

 

WASHINGTON ― As one of their first actions in the new Congress, House Republicans are planning to significantly change the Office of Congressional Ethics, removing the entity’s independence, barring it from investigating anonymous complaints and even changing the group’s name.

Less than 24 hours before the House convenes and votes on its rules for the 115th Congress, Republicans adopted an amendment Monday night, 119 to 74, from Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) that would fundamentally change the OCE. The independent ethics board investigates complaints against members and issues reports to the Ethics Committee.

 

Specifically, the amendment would place the OCE under the “oversight” of the lenient Ethics Committee and rename it the Office of Congressional Complaint Review. The new group would no longer be able to release information to the public, employ anyone “for a position involving communications with the public,” or directly contact law enforcement without approval. It would also be prohibited from investigating anonymous complaints.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the change would “functionally destroy” the office.

“Republicans claim they want to ‘drain the swamp,’ but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions,” Pelosi said. “Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress.”

 

The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure.

Asked if that would deter people from making complaints, Rice agreed it was a “double-edged sword.”

The effect, of course, of eliminating OCE’s ability to issue reports is that ethics complaints won’t be aired in public. The Ethics Committee has generally slapped members on the wrist for violations of rules, or simply shrugged them off.

 

The Office of Congressional Ethics, which was established in early 2008 after a number of scandals ― including the Jack Abramoff controversy of exchanging gifts and donations for votes ― issues public reports of potential wrongdoing with a recommendation to the Ethics Committee on whether to investigate further. This system has allowed the public a view into some investigations that the Ethics Committee later says are not worthy of reprimand ― a common conclusion from a panel that often operates on a partisan doctrine of mutually assured destruction.

 

One of Trump’s major pledges is to “drain the swamp,” but ethics groups were having a hard time seeing how removing the independence of an ethics watchdog that has provided aggressive oversight and detailed reports of potential wrongdoing was in keeping with that pledge.

“This is a shameful move by House Republicans that’ll weaken ethics oversight and make members less accountable for their actions,” said Adam Smith of the liberal advocacy group Every Voice.

Daniel Schuman, the policy director of the activist organization Demand Progress, also had stern words.

“With today’s action  —  taken behind closed doors and with no opportunity for public debate  —  the House now rolls back the clock to an era of corruption and decay. We will all be the worse for it,” Schuman said.

As Schuman points out, another puzzling aspect of the rules change is the short notice. Republicans are fundamentally changing an ethics agency just hours before a vote, while hardly anyone in the public is watching.

 

The rules Republicans are adopting require legislation to be posted for three days so that members and the public have a chance to read the measures and voice their input.

Asked if they felt these changes were in contravention to the very rules they were adopting, Republicans shrugged off those concerns.

 

 

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So you leave out the GUTS of the entire reason and then think you have something!!

 

Pretty amazing how you liberrhoids use this agitprop when it suits your whining.

 

 

Republicans themselves defended the changes Monday night as necessary adjustments to protect members from political witch hunts.

 

“Now you can’t make a false accusation,” Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) told The Huffington Post. “Now you can answer back to the people that make accusations against you. This has been flawed from the very get-go.”

 

The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure. But a number of Republicans take issue with OCE investigating anonymous tips and have been looking for a way to ensure that accusers of wrongdoing must attach their name to a complaint.

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Why do you oppose someone having the right to face their accuser? It's a fundamental tenant of our legal system. This new system is a boon to fairness for Republicans AND Dummycraps.

 

Oh that's right, you're a libtard and don't care about unfair rules that tip the scales in favor of your goals.

 

Of course a crook like Pelosi would like the anonymous system. You see, libtards are the ones who take advantage of anonymous accusations, because they're the rabid activists who take any measure they can to attack the right, whether fair or not. Republicans quietly go about their lives working hard within the system to make their own and others' lives better without stooping to such dishonorable actions.

 

It's proven in the way Republicans accepted two elections of the worst president in the history of the U.S., compared with how libtards have kicked, screamed, complained, sued, rioted, looted, and burned in response to Trump's win, and you can't get around that fact.

 

We work hard within the system, constantly striving to make it more fair for everyone, as the new Congress just demonstrated. Libtards work to undermine us no matter what, and care nothing about whether their tactics are fair and honorable.

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Why do you oppose someone having the right to face their accuser? It's a fundamental tenant of our legal system. This new system is a boon to fairness for Republicans AND Dummycraps.

 

Oh that's right, you're a libtard and don't care about unfair rules that tip the scales in favor of your goals.

 

Of course a crook like Pelosi would like the anonymous system. You see, libtards are the ones who take advantage of anonymous accusations, because they're the rabid activists who take any measure they can to attack the right, whether fair or not. Republicans quietly go about their lives working hard within the system to make their own and others' lives better without stooping to such dishonorable actions.

 

It's proven in the way Republicans accepted two elections of the worst president in the history of the U.S., compared with how libtards have kicked, screamed, complained, sued, rioted, looted, and burned in response to Trump's win, and you can't get around that fact.

 

We work hard within the system, constantly striving to make it more fair for everyone, as the new Congress just demonstrated. Libtards work to undermine us no matter what, and care nothing about whether their tactics are fair and honorable.

 

libberhoids have never heard of the 6th Amendment.

 

To them, that "antiquated document" serves no useful purpose OTHER than to constrict their ability to run their little complete dominance over the lives of everyone.

 

After all, "they know what's best for you".

 

For that fact, they would love to see jury trials completely disappear as well. WHY go though it all when "everyone knows they are guilty".

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Yup the basket of deplorables

And don't forget us ding - dang midwesterners....Clinging to our guns and Bibles......lol

The corruption (on both sides...) is probably worse than the average voter can even imagine............But at least Hillary isn't president..... :):P:D:lol:

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So you leave out the GUTS of the entire reason and then think you have something!!

 

Pretty amazing how you liberrhoids use this agitprop when it suits your whining.

 

 

Republicans themselves defended the changes Monday night as necessary adjustments to protect members from political witch hunts.

 

“Now you can’t make a false accusation,” Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) told The Huffington Post. “Now you can answer back to the people that make accusations against you. This has been flawed from the very get-go.”

 

The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure. But a number of Republicans take issue with OCE investigating anonymous tips and have been looking for a way to ensure that accusers of wrongdoing must attach their name to a complaint.

Being under investigation by a committee of your own peers for being an unethical sleazebag, is protecting your self from a political witch hunt?

 

Is that the story you're sticking with?

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Being under investigation by a committee of your own peers for being an unethical sleazebag, is protecting your self from a political witch hunt?

 

Is that the story you're sticking with?

Skews..

 

I think the issue is that people were being investigated and accused and had no idea who was doing it...

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Now why would Republicans meet and vote secretly -who voted for it is not available to the public- to pass an amendment gutting the Office of Congressional Ethics? Hmm.....that's a tough one. Maybe, just maybe, and I'm going to go out on a limb here, it is because they want to act unethically like the filthy rotten criminals they are and have always been.

 

Trump may not be a billionaire now, but he sure as hell will be when he leaves office. Thanks, cons, you dumbasses. Welcome to the Big Steal and the first meeting of the Billionaire Boys Club.

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/house-office-congressional-ethics-rules_us_586b00e0e4b0d9a5945c34c6?vepm1jwijg7mpwrk9

 

(Full article at above link)

 

 

WASHINGTON ― As one of their first actions in the new Congress, House Republicans are planning to significantly change the Office of Congressional Ethics, removing the entity’s independence, barring it from investigating anonymous complaints and even changing the group’s name.

Less than 24 hours before the House convenes and votes on its rules for the 115th Congress, Republicans adopted an amendment Monday night, 119 to 74, from Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) that would fundamentally change the OCE. The independent ethics board investigates complaints against members and issues reports to the Ethics Committee.

 

Specifically, the amendment would place the OCE under the “oversight” of the lenient Ethics Committee and rename it the Office of Congressional Complaint Review. The new group would no longer be able to release information to the public, employ anyone “for a position involving communications with the public,” or directly contact law enforcement without approval. It would also be prohibited from investigating anonymous complaints.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the change would “functionally destroy” the office.

“Republicans claim they want to ‘drain the swamp,’ but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions,” Pelosi said. “Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress.”

 

The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure.

Asked if that would deter people from making complaints, Rice agreed it was a “double-edged sword.”

The effect, of course, of eliminating OCE’s ability to issue reports is that ethics complaints won’t be aired in public. The Ethics Committee has generally slapped members on the wrist for violations of rules, or simply shrugged them off.

 

The Office of Congressional Ethics, which was established in early 2008 after a number of scandals ― including the Jack Abramoff controversy of exchanging gifts and donations for votes ― issues public reports of potential wrongdoing with a recommendation to the Ethics Committee on whether to investigate further. This system has allowed the public a view into some investigations that the Ethics Committee later says are not worthy of reprimand ― a common conclusion from a panel that often operates on a partisan doctrine of mutually assured destruction.

 

One of Trump’s major pledges is to “drain the swamp,” but ethics groups were having a hard time seeing how removing the independence of an ethics watchdog that has provided aggressive oversight and detailed reports of potential wrongdoing was in keeping with that pledge.

“This is a shameful move by House Republicans that’ll weaken ethics oversight and make members less accountable for their actions,” said Adam Smith of the liberal advocacy group Every Voice.

Daniel Schuman, the policy director of the activist organization Demand Progress, also had stern words.

“With today’s action  —  taken behind closed doors and with no opportunity for public debate  —  the House now rolls back the clock to an era of corruption and decay. We will all be the worse for it,” Schuman said.

As Schuman points out, another puzzling aspect of the rules change is the short notice. Republicans are fundamentally changing an ethics agency just hours before a vote, while hardly anyone in the public is watching.

 

The rules Republicans are adopting require legislation to be posted for three days so that members and the public have a chance to read the measures and voice their input.

Asked if they felt these changes were in contravention to the very rules they were adopting, Republicans shrugged off those concerns.

 

 

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Yep. Their very first move. Vote to exempt themselves from the rules everybody else has to follow in the cover of darkness.

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It's funny how they don't want ethics committee

 

 

Untrue. (Why am I not surprised?)

 

There is still an Ethics Committee, as referenced in your buddy the animal abuser's OP.

 

Man, the libtards are really kicking their own asses today..

 

Too bad you disregard facts. Your comments might look less ridiculous if you didn't.

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I have a hard time taking an article seriously that leaves out one entire side of the argument. When dems controlled the House they did this kind of behind the scene closed door crap all the time. The difference was that the dems actually passed laws in this untransparent way, and the media didn't care. I also find it hard to listen to people that take issue with the House Republicans for this, but look the other way on Hillary and the DNC's multiple scandals and election fraud.

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the republicans are afraid of ethics committees.

 

 

Why do you insist on making yourself look like an idiot??

 

Here, let me isolate it for you since you seem unable to find it yourself, from your buddy the vegan hypocrite's own lying mouth:

 

 

 

Specifically, the amendment would place the OCE under the “oversight” of the lenient Ethics Committee

 

 

 

Get it now?? There is STILL an Ethics Committee, but the Republicans are making it MORE ETHICAL by allowing the accused to face their accuser.

 

Man. How do you kick your own ass so hard??

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So you leave out the GUTS of the entire reason and then think you have something!!

 

Pretty amazing how you liberrhoids use this agitprop when it suits your whining.

 

 

Republicans themselves defended the changes Monday night as necessary adjustments to protect members from political witch hunts.

 

“Now you can’t make a false accusation,” Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) told The Huffington Post. “Now you can answer back to the people that make accusations against you. This has been flawed from the very get-go.”

 

The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure. But a number of Republicans take issue with OCE investigating anonymous tips and have been looking for a way to ensure that accusers of wrongdoing must attach their name to a complaint.

 

Anonymous tips protect vulnerable people from repercussions. Both Crimestoppers and whistleblower laws depend on this anonymity to encourage people to come forward. A tip that leads investigators to possible corruption is not the same thing as facing your accuser in a court of law, so don't pretend that it is. A 'tip' is never introduced as evidence. If no crime has taken place, no evidence can be attained. It's as simple as that. You cons are all just in one big circle jerk getting each other off. It's disgusting.

 

And I didn't gut the article. I saw through the obvious bullshit and edited it out for the sake of concision.I ALWAYS provide the link. If you want to listen to their lies, by all means, go ahead. They are playing you people for fools yet again. You are dependable that way.

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Cognition fail. Again.

You might want to email Agent Orange. He isn't happy about it either

 

Now that's cognition fail.

 

Speaker Ryan has split with the members that voted for it.

 

Agent Orange won't be sworn in for another 17 days, and the MAGAmites are already fighting amongst themselves.

 

The Democrats will be making sure this follows Agent Orange all the way to election day.

 

I can hear little KellyAnne throwing a fit as we speak.

 

She better not waste to much time forming a talkingpoint to try to deflect from the story.

 

This is what it feels like to be on the defensive.

 

Get used to it. It only gets much worse for you from here.

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Anonymous tips protect vulnerable people from repercussions. Both Crimestoppers and whistleblower laws depend on this anonymity to encourage people to come forward. A tip that leads investigators to possible corruption is not the same thing as facing your accuser in a court of law, so don't pretend that it is. A 'tip' is never introduced as evidence. If no crime has taken place, no evidence can be attained. It's as simple as that. You cons are all just in one big circle jerk getting each other off. It's disgusting.

 

And I didn't gut the article. I saw through the obvious bullshit and edited it out for the sake of concision.I ALWAYS provide the link. If you want to listen to their lies, by all means, go ahead. They are playing you people for fools yet again. You are dependable that way.

No Administration has attacked whistle blowers more than Obama's.

And you did lie when you removed the parts of the article you didn't agree with, which not so coincidentally showed you to be wrong.

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