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The phrase "All men are equal" is often misunderstood. There are no two perfectly equal human beings on this planet, though identical twins come close.

 

The phrase really means "All people should be accorded equal rights before the law".

 

At the time of the American Revolution, in the British Empire, there were three classes: the sovereign, the nobility, and the commoners. They were governed by different laws. The House of Lords represented the nobility, the House of Commons represented the common people: the peasants, tradesmen, merchants and such. The sovereign was simply above all the laws and could legally do whatever the Hell he wished: declare war on the Dutch, ally his country with the Portuguese, throw anyone in jail or have him executed.

 

In reality what we are is determined by three major factors: our genes, our environment, and our experiences. If you were born in poverty and one of six children, you will have far greater difficulty in achieving any sort of prosperity or success than if you were born to a family of urban millionaires. Your environment will determine your experiences, and your experiences will greatly affect your education, not just your formal schooling, but everything you learn from your environment.

 

Social programs are intended to give greater opportunities to those disadvantaged by the conditions of their birth, both geographically and socially.

 

 

The reality is that equality before the law is more of an ideal than a fact.

John Hinckly and OJ Simpson were both greatly advantaged at the time of their crimes. Had either of them been poor, and if the crime had occurred in Texas, Louisiana or Alabama they would surely have been executed

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As you explicate, there are two different standards of justice in the US. One for the rich and the other for the rest of us. Here is an example of a rich kid getting away with murder.

 

http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/do-rich-people-get-off-easier-when-they-break-the-law/?_r=0

Do Rich People Get Off Easier When They Break The Law?

Last week a Texas judge decided not to send a teenager from a well-off family to prison after he killed four people while driving drunk. The judge made her ruling after hearing from a psychologist who claimed that the 16-year-old boy suffered from “affluenza,” a term used to describe psychological problems that can afflict children of privilege. While it is not clear if the psychologist’s testimony influenced the judge, the ruling has set off public outrage.

 

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In reality what we are is determined by three major factors: our genes, our environment, and our experiences.

 

The vastly complicated interplay between these three factors makes each of us unique. Unique rather than unequal. Because, through history and across cultures, the characteristics needed to thrive very different. There is also the factor in any time or environment, of being in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time for the mundane or the extraordinary to happen .... In other words, luck.

 

For these reasons, species with large pools of genetic diversity have a better chance of adapting to ever changing environmental conditions. Nature does not recognize justice or compassion. The ability to empathize and see right from wrong are unique to humans but not present in all.

 

Sociopaths have definite advantages in modern society. They are adept at mimicking those with the capacity to care, while obeying only the one law of self-aggrandizement. Sociopaths, while being only a small percentage of the population, are over-represented in positions of power; Both in government and business.

 

Ayn Rand, IMO, was a sociopath and a vastly influential saleswoman for individual self-promotion and a disregard of everyone else. Her greatest impact was in the US where played a seminal role in the great Right Wing resurgence we see today. Can the Left recover from this and rebound to bring compassion and a measure of justice to this Nation?

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I agree that Ayn Rand, who was a rather fascination character as well as a sociapath, was an influence. But not nearly so much as the National Chamber of Commerce, that hired Reagan to spread its message, or William F Buckley as well as the John Birch Society.

 

Luck surely has a lot to do with success. One major element is the date of one's birth.

 

I agree with most of what you say here.

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As you explicate, there are two different standards of justice in the US. One for the rich and the other for the rest of us. Here is an example of a rich kid getting away with murder.

 

http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/do-rich-people-get-off-easier-when-they-break-the-law/?_r=0

That "affluenza" stuff was simply just outrageous when used as an excuse! Since when does the law excuse someone who has done what they did or severely reduce their sentence just because they're rich? Perhaps when those judging him or her are also rich. After all, Birds Of A Feather Stick Together!

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That "affluenza" stuff was simply just outrageous when used as an excuse! Since when does the law excuse someone who has done what they did or severely reduce their sentence just because they're rich? Perhaps when those judging him or her are also rich. After all, Birds Of A Feather Stick Together!

 

Agree. This particular case was a glaring travesty of justice, on unapolagetic public display. It was reminiscent of medieval times when a lord could literally get away with killing peasants for sport. The judge may have been paid off.

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I have an issue with the "All men" part. Where does that leave us females?

 

Welcome Middl3. I guess the modern translation would be "All people". That would be the enlightened and proper way to say it now, over 200 years after.

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ROFL Trump got hacked by Anonymous and posted his social security number and private phone number online. NOW he wants to catch hackers..Unreal BS LOL


I am a big Tom Hartman fan :)


Thank you bludog..I started out in the "other" section. There is no talking to those people :(

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excellent post XavierOnassis!

 

no we are not carbon copies of each other and yes there are advantages to having been born into a well to do family or living in a certain neighborhood. There is also a system that is weighted for those at the top which is inefficient and not simple economic capitalism on its own. The system is rigged on a macroeconomic scale. In order to change and make things better we are going to need people who have backbone and are willing to fight. Just the massive scale of pollution and how to fix it encounters all sorts of backlash from the producers of fossil fuels. This is the same fight we face with education, healthcare and a fair wage.

 

Peace!

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