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I wish I could live in a world where these types of terrifying weapons were confined to just the military. I don't even trust the police with them.

Kind of like in Nazi Germany where then none of the citizens could defend themselves? --Or--

 

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Yeah.... that works real well

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I wish I could live in a world where these types of terrifying weapons were confined to just the military. I don't even trust the police with them.

 

Rightfully so Lawrence

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Kind of like in Nazi Germany where then none of the citizens could defend themselves? --Or--

 

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Yeah.... that works real well

 

 

Rightfully so Lawrence

 

Maybe if the Government just allows us sporting types of weapons like double barrel shotguns. That way you can still defend yourself and we eliminate the risk of assault rifles getting in the hands of the wrong people. I hear shotguns are an excellent deterrent. Just the sound of loading a shotgun will send bad guys scurrying.

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6Gunner: Your post has been deleted. You may have wisdom to impart and you may be Liberal on some issues. But one has to be overall, left of center to post in the Liberal's Only Room. I would appreciated it if you would stay out because I would not want to have to take action.

 

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i thought liberal and libertarian were similar? can i change it still?

 

There is some overlap but overall, Liberal and Libertarian are quite different. Since you are a brand new member, and haven't posted anything of a Libertarian nature, you can still change your political affiliation in your profile. Then .... We will see, base on what you post.

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There is some overlap but overall, Liberal and Libertarian are quite different. Since you are a brand new member, and haven't posted anything of a Libertarian nature, you can still change your political affiliation in your profile. Then .... We will see, base on what you post.

You saying even libertarians aren't allowed here, hell I got more in common with them then I do with ted cruz, liberal isn't a cookie cutter affiliation some of us got some different views. I think it's attributed to my parents, Iike my mom she loved hillary I didn't, she's a political hack insider IMHO. I wasn't opposed to Gary Johnson, but I couldn't stand that guy Weld he was with. Only if biden or bernie ran I would of been better off.

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You saying even libertarians aren't allowed here,

 

Exactly.

 

 

hell I got more in common with them then I do with ted cruz,

 

No Washington Libertarian is in the Democratic Party. They are all Republicans. That should send you a message.

 

 

liberal isn't a cookie cutter affiliation some of us got some different views.

 

 

When Will Rogers was asked his political affiliation, his answer was, paraphrasing: "I don't have one; I'm a Democrat". The Democratic Party is a big tent but it doesn't allow Conservatives and that includes Libertarians. You can always go to NHB and post there, in the company of more kindred spirits.

 

 

I think it's attributed to my parents, Iike my mom she loved hillary I didn't, she's a political hack insider IMHO. I wasn't opposed to Gary Johnson, but I couldn't stand that guy Weld he was with. Only if biden or bernie ran I would of been better off.

 

I originally supported Bernie and would have Supported Biden. I ended up voting for Hillary ONLY to stop Trump. For me, Johnson/Weld were beyond the pale .... Both dirt-ignorant Conservatives, for the most part.

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Guns, bullets..mine is bigger than yours, yours is bigger than mine. This is a tired subject but very very important one.

 

First off most regulations do not work. Simply profiling people who want to own a gun is not a tell all, it does not predict what is in the owners heart. There is no way to reveal ones intent until they have taken action.

 

With that stated why would anyone "need" an assault type weapon? Lousy shots maybe?

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You saying even libertarians aren't allowed here, hell I got more in common with them then I do with ted cruz, liberal isn't a cookie cutter affiliation some of us got some different views. I think it's attributed to my parents, Iike my mom she loved hillary I didn't, she's a political hack insider IMHO. I wasn't opposed to Gary Johnson, but I couldn't stand that guy Weld he was with. Only if biden or bernie ran I would of been better off.

 

I'm new here as are you. I think the purpose of this portion of the forum is to eliminate all the chatter and conflict that comes from other political thought. There are plenty of other places to discuss your Libertarian ideas. This is not the place for that. Personally, I consider this the "safe space" to relax and discuss issues from the Liberal point of view without hurtful rhetoric from the Right.

 

I'm just a new guy, so if I'm off-base please correct me.

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i know plenty of liberal type gun owners, just because im from Washington doesnt mean much, i dont get what the hard on is for me i just joined today, figured i would fit in with like minded people, some of us do own firearms but our lives do not revolve around it or what others think is best. i am right up there with equality and rights and gun ownership is just another one i support, does that make me a Republican?

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I'm new here as are you. I think the purpose of this portion of the forum is to eliminate all the chatter and conflict that comes from other political thought. There are plenty of other places to discuss your Libertarian ideas. This is not the place for that. Personally, I consider this the "safe space" to relax and discuss issues from the Liberal point of view without hurtful rhetoric from the Right.

 

This sub forum is why I joined here, it is a refreshing get away to express my ideas and listen to like minded individuals.

I for one despise guns and cannot wait for the day the UN gun treaty passes and finally makes it an international offence to own guns. Obama should free all of the non violent offenders from prison before he leaves office to make room for everyone that refuses to give their guns back to the government.

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This sub forum is why I joined here, it is a refreshing get away to express my ideas and listen to like minded individuals.

I for one despise guns and cannot wait for the day the UN gun treaty passes and finally makes it an international offence to own guns. Obama should free all of the non violent offenders from prison before he leaves office to make room for everyone that refuses to give their guns back to the government.

We may think alike on a lot of things, but that's just really insane talking right there. Of all the examples of tyranny and Genocide that happened after citizens were forced to give back their guns. Haven't you leaned anything from history? Seriously?

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Our US government would never resort to tyranny or genocide against it's own citizens. There are laws against that in the Constitution.

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Our US government would never resort to tyranny or genocide against it's own citizens. There are laws against that in the Constitution.

Guess you think the orange ape isn't going to deport your friends, I will stand with good people like latinocoup if needed, we need to form our miltia

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I suppose there is always a possibility of corruption in different pockets within the government, but we have learned alot since the days of Hitler. Even someone like Trump, as arrogant as he is, cannot start oppressing and murdering the millions of people in America. Can you imagine the protests and riots that would happen?

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We may think alike on a lot of things, but that's just really insane talking right there. Of all the examples of tyranny and Genocide that happened after citizens were forced to give back their guns. Haven't you leaned anything from history? Seriously?

Hangalouie, I'm frightened about your over the top pro gun stance. You possibly could be some kind of NRA plant here trying to sway our core beliefs. I also support the 2nd but we need some form of gun control I really don't think anybody needs a Uzi street sweeper , but I do have a 22 six shooter myself and Iam looking to get a shotgun for the house.

 

In all honesty can you post a pic with you and your self-defense gun, someone with your knowledge seems to be setting off my radar

 

 

 

 

Blewdog, I was shopping today and I checked out a remmingtin 870 $365 it's a 20 gage what you think, all black he said it's perfect for home defense. I was gonna to take a pic of it but they jumped all over me there and said no taking pics in the store for security concerns. That kind of upset me them jumping down my throat, what do these Gun guys think I got a laser beam on my phone, probably voted for trump.

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but I do have a 22 six shooter myself and Iam looking to get a shotgun for the house.

 

I was given a 22 6 shooter from a friend years ago that didn't want anything to do with it. I turned the bullet holder part of it into a rotating 6 bowl attachment for my bong. A much better use if you ask me LOL. Flashy, I don't know how you could even stand to have something that shoots multiple bullets out of it going in who knows where in all directions like a shotgun. I hope you get insurance.

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Blewdog, I was shopping today and I checked out a remmingtin 870 $365 it's a 20 gage what you think, all black he said it's perfect for home defense. I was gonna to take a pic of it but they jumped all over me there and said no taking pics in the store for security concerns. That kind of upset me them jumping down my throat, what do these Gun guys think I got a laser beam on my phone, probably voted for trump.

 

The store guys are probably scared of having their license lifted. I would try not to take it personally. But there are plenty of other places to go for the same item at a similar price.

 

It sounds like an excellent shotgun for the purpose. The price sounds right. The Remington 870 has an enthusiastic following for a reason. They are simple and proven. 20 Ga is getting more popular. It's lighter and has less recoil .... But for home defense, I'd stick with 12 Ga. Why sacrifice power if you're not going to carry the piece around out in the field? Still, you wouldn't go wrong with 20 Ga.

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I also hate guns but I don't see gun control as a practical solution. I've often thought that gun owners, gun lobbies and gun manufactuers should self regulate in a way similar to how other industries have.

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That's one reason I don't belong to the NRA. For long, they have stood for extremism and support of the gun industry, no matter what.

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The store guys are probably scared of having their license lifted. I would try not to take it personally. But there are plenty of other places to go for the same item at a similar price.

 

It sounds like an excellent shotgun for the purpose. The price sounds right. The Remington 870 has an enthusiastic following for a reason. They are simple and proven. 20 Ga is getting more popular. It's lighter and has less recoil .... But for home defense, I'd stick with 12 Ga. Why sacrifice power if you're not going to carry the piece around out in the field? Still, you wouldn't go wrong with 20 Ga.

The sporting goods store, mostly guns and fishing stuff and a little camping gear really the place was a little scary. Maybe I wasn't being open minded, once I saw a bumper sticker by the register that had a horrible pic of Hillary and said " 2nd amend trumps hillary". And there was all kinds of NRA propaganda there too.

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The sporting goods store, mostly guns and fishing stuff and a little camping gear really the place was a little scary. Maybe I wasn't being open minded, once I saw a bumper sticker by the register that had a horrible pic of Hillary and said " 2nd amend trumps hillary". And there was all kinds of NRA propaganda there too.

 

If that's the case, I would look somewhere else. But, as I get reminded over and over, the culture of gun ownership in the US, is usually NOT Liberal-friendly.

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