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Will you cons be pissed if Trump doesn't build a big beautiful wall? Do you think he will? Did you ever really believe it?




At Mexico's border President Trump is just the latest unfunny gringo joke







The city of Nogales is processing Donald Trump’s election triumph with shock, anxiety, defiance and jokes. Lots of jokes.

A cosmic joke has been played on this border community, after all, so why not roll with it and try to laugh before the absurdity stops being funny?

The gringos moved the border here in 1853, extending the United States south and drawing a new line with Mexico. The Sonoran desert fries crops so Nogales lived on trade, playing by rules devised in Washington which impoverished Mexico’s interior and sent millions north seeking work gringos would not do – only for the gringos to erect a barrier to impede them.

And now, this week, the punchline: a new gringo-in-chief who wants to make the trade rules even tougher, deport undocumented immigrants, build a 2,000-mile wall and make the people of Nogales and the rest of Mexico, whom he has branded rapists and criminals, pay for it.

“Well I suppose you have to laugh, right?” said Audón Salazar, 49, as he nudged his taxi through a maze of traffic in the afternoon sun. “I mean, a wall? The smugglers will just use tunnels or ladders or fake visas.”

Residents here have found comedy and reassurance in the image of white Trump voters bent double harvesting acres of lettuce. Or stealing Mexican factory jobs and their $8-a-day wages. They find comfort, too, in the notion the US has just elected a president deemed possibly dumber than Mexico’s Enrique Peña Nieto.

“It’s been joke after joke after joke. I can’t smile any more,” said Alma Cota de Yáñez, who runs Fundación del Empresariado Sonorense, a civil society group. “Not that the situation’s funny. We’re stunned. But life goes on, amazingly.”

Trump’s victory speech sounded conciliatory and he may soften or abandon his promised border crackdown, said Fr Alejandro Zepera Santoscoy. “We’re all waiting to see if he’ll follow through on his threats.”

Maybe the xenophobia was an act, said Adolfo, a 48-year-old businessman who declined to give his last name. “You know, just a political strategy to get into the White House.”

A group of women hauling shopping bags downtown reckoned American taxpayers would squawk at shelling out $10bn to build a 35ft concrete wall across wilderness. A pharmacist expressed faith in Washington’s congressional gridlock. “Nobody decides anything.”

Eluding US Border Patrol control is already fraught. Since 9/11 the number of agents has increased exponentially to 21,000. Customs and Border Protection has ballooned, its budget dwarfing all other law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and NSA. In addition to 600 miles of metal fence, the border bristles with a virtual wall of drones, sensors, cameras and aircraft.

It forces migrants to take remote, perilous routes through a desert now dotted with skeletons. This was US policy under Obama. Under Trump, migrants can only imagine what awaits.

“I want to try now before he’s there, while there’s still time,” said a 28-year-old Honduran who gave his name only as José. His goal: join a brother in New York, find work, send money to his mother.

About 200 Haitians arrived in Nogales last month hoping for visas to work legally in the US, an apparently forlorn hope. A slow processing pace halted on Monday, said Einnel Brice, 41, part of a disconsolate group at a border crossing. “Before the election they saw three per day. Since the election, no one.” The Guardian could not reach consular officials to verify this.

The Haitian influx has overwhelmed Hilda Loureiro, who runs a migrant shelter. Asked about Trump’s vow to deport millions to Mexico, she blanched. “Where would we put them? We don’t have the resources.”

Some of the estimated 3.2 million people Obama deported ended up in Nogales, including parents who brought their US-born children. “They’re US citizens who don’t speak Spanish so they get bullied at school,” said Cota de Yáñez, the civil society advocate.

Saúl Ramírez, 22, awaiting his turn in a barber shop, scoffed at Trump’s proposed wall. “Won’t work. We’ll get around it. Dig. Use ladders.”


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“I mean, a wall? The smugglers will just use tunnels or ladders or fake visas.”


They always say that.



“I want to try now before he’s there, while there’s still time,” said a 28-year-old Honduran who gave his name only as José.


And yet they always say this too.







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"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build it very inexpensively."


"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall."




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People as stupid as CONS should be killed. The wall cannot be built as proposed by Trump.


Trump has said the wall could cost $8 billion to $12 billion, be made of precast concrete, and rise 35 to 40 feet, or 50 feet, or higher. He’s said the wall doesn’t need to run the nearly 2,000 miles of the border, but half of that because of natural barriers.


He is so full of shit. Trump knows it can't be done but the Trumproids being the dumb fucker that they are think, it can. Trumproids are very very very very fucking stupid to the point that the are not human.



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