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In United States presidential elections, a faithless elector is a member of the United States Electoral College who does not vote for the presidential or vice-presidential candidate for whom they had pledged to vote. That is, they actually vote for another candidate, or fail to vote, or choose not to vote. A pledged elector can become a faithless elector only by breaking their pledge; unpledged electors have no pledge to break.



Electors are typically chosen and nominated by a political party or the party's presidential nominee: they are usually party members with a reputation for high loyalty to the party and its chosen candidate. Thus, a faithless elector runs the risk of party censure and political retaliation from their party, as well as potential criminal penalties in some states. Candidates for elector are nominated by state political parties in the months prior to Election Day. In some states, the electors are nominated in primaries, the same way other candidates are nominated. In some states, such as Oklahoma, Virginia, and North Carolina, electors are nominated in party conventions. In Pennsylvania, the campaign committee of each candidate names their candidates for elector (an attempt to discourage faithless electors). The parties have generally been successful in keeping their electors faithful, leaving out the cases in which a candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote.



During the 1836 election, Virginia's entire 23-man electoral delegation faithlessly voted against victorious Democratic Party Vice Presidential Candidate Richard Mentor Johnson[1] due to Johnson's openly admitted, publicized, long-term interracial relationship with his slave, Julia Chinn. The loss of Virginia's support caused Johnson to fall one electoral vote short of a majority, causing the Vice Presidential election to be thrown into the U.S. Senate for the only time in American history. However, Virginia's electors voted for Martin Van Buren as pledged, meaning the presidential election itself was not in dispute. The U.S. Senate ultimately elected Johnson anyway after a party-line vote. Despite 157 instances of faithlessness as of 2015, faithless electors have not yet affected the results or ultimate outcome of any other presidential election.


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Donald Trump won the Electoral College and is the president-elect. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.


Is there any scenario at all through which Hillary could still become president? Enter the “Faithless Elector” scenario.


“Faithless Electors,” according to FairVote.org, “are members of the Electoral College who, for whatever reason, do not vote for their party’s designated candidate.” In other words, electors bound for Trump could just change over to Clinton or not vote.



It’s a highly improbable scenario because Trump leads the Electoral College by so much, but that hasn’t stopped millions of people from embracing it as a last-ditch effort to prevent a President Trump from becoming the Leader of the Free World. At any rate, what hasn’t been improbable about this election?


Here’s what you need to know:



1. Millions of People Have Signed a Petition Asking the Electors to Switch or Abstain
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Inauguration Day is not until January 20, 2017. Trump has already met with President Barack Obama. (Getty)



Over 3.6 million people have signed a petition on Change.org asking electors to pick Clinton when the Electoral College meets on December 19 to cast its ballots (The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes on January 6; Inauguration Day is January 20).


The petition notes, “Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.”


According to the National Conference on State Legislatures, the Electoral College “was established by Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution and modified by the 12th and 23rd Amendments. The Electoral College consists of a total of 538 members, one for each U.S. senator and representative, and three additional electors representing the District of Columbia.”


The NCSL adds: “Each state has a number of electoral votes equal to the combined total of its congressional delegation, and each state legislature is free to determine the method it will use to select its own electors.”




2. There Have Been Faithless Electors Before in American History
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The phrase “Not My President” has been used at all of the anti-Trump rallies, and it has also been turned into a popular Twitter hashtag. (Getty)



The New York Post noted, “According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on December 19 in their respective state capitals.”


Since the advent of the Electoral College, there have been 157 faithless electors. According to FairVote.org, “71 of these votes were changed because the original candidate died before the day on which the Electoral College cast its votes. Three of the votes were not cast at all as three electors chose to abstain from casting their electoral vote for any candidate. The other 82 electoral votes were changed on the personal initiative of the elector.”


The National Conference of State Legislatures says “the last time an elector crossed party lines was in 1972, when an elector nominated by the Republican Party cast his ballot for the Libertarian ticket.”


The challenge for Clinton supporters: Because of Trump’s lead in the Electoral College, a swarm of electors would need to do so.



3. It’s Illegal in Some States for Electors to Switch but the Penalty Is Not Severe
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Protesters hold up signs and yell during a protest against the elction of Donald Trump in the Boston Common on November 9, 2016 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Getty)



FairVote says 21 states “still do not require their members of the Electoral College to vote for their party’s designated candidate” and the 29 states that do impose low penalties for violating the rule, including fines and misdemeanors charges. FairVote even has a list of past faithless electors.


According to Inverse, “The precedent in most previous cases has just been to charge faithless electors with a misdemeanor and slap them with a fine, usually $1,000.” Inverse argues that the best way to encourage faithless electors is to raise money for their legal fees.


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Donald Trump won the Electoral College and is the president-elect. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.

Is there any scenario at all through which Hillary could still become president? Enter the “Faithless Elector” scenario.

“Faithless Electors,” according to FairVote.org, “are members of the Electoral College who, for whatever reason, do not vote for their party’s designated candidate.” In other words, electors bound for Trump could just change over to Clinton or not vote.

It’s a highly improbable scenario because Trump leads the Electoral College by so much, but that hasn’t stopped millions of people from embracing it as a last-ditch effort to prevent a President Trump from becoming the Leader of the Free World. At any rate, what hasn’t been improbable about this election?

Here’s what you need to know:

1. Millions of People Have Signed a Petition Asking the Electors to Switch or Abstain
gettyimages-622153362.jpg?quality=65&str

Inauguration Day is not until January 20, 2017. Trump has already met with President Barack Obama. (Getty)

Over 3.6 million people have signed a petition on Change.org asking electors to pick Clinton when the Electoral College meets on December 19 to cast its ballots (The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes on January 6; Inauguration Day is January 20).

The petition notes, “Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.”

According to the National Conference on State Legislatures, the Electoral College “was established by Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution and modified by the 12th and 23rd Amendments. The Electoral College consists of a total of 538 members, one for each U.S. senator and representative, and three additional electors representing the District of Columbia.”

The NCSL adds: “Each state has a number of electoral votes equal to the combined total of its congressional delegation, and each state legislature is free to determine the method it will use to select its own electors.”

2. There Have Been Faithless Electors Before in American History
gettyimages-622856934.jpg?quality=65&str

The phrase “Not My President” has been used at all of the anti-Trump rallies, and it has also been turned into a popular Twitter hashtag. (Getty)

The New York Post noted, “According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on December 19 in their respective state capitals.”

Since the advent of the Electoral College, there have been 157 faithless electors. According to FairVote.org, “71 of these votes were changed because the original candidate died before the day on which the Electoral College cast its votes. Three of the votes were not cast at all as three electors chose to abstain from casting their electoral vote for any candidate. The other 82 electoral votes were changed on the personal initiative of the elector.”

The National Conference of State Legislatures says “the last time an elector crossed party lines was in 1972, when an elector nominated by the Republican Party cast his ballot for the Libertarian ticket.”

The challenge for Clinton supporters: Because of Trump’s lead in the Electoral College, a swarm of electors would need to do so.

3. It’s Illegal in Some States for Electors to Switch but the Penalty Is Not Severe
gettyimages-622097218-e1478832451629.jpg

Protesters hold up signs and yell during a protest against the elction of Donald Trump in the Boston Common on November 9, 2016 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Getty)

FairVote says 21 states “still do not require their members of the Electoral College to vote for their party’s designated candidate” and the 29 states that do impose low penalties for violating the rule, including fines and misdemeanors charges. FairVote even has a list of past faithless electors.

According to Inverse, “The precedent in most previous cases has just been to charge faithless electors with a misdemeanor and slap them with a fine, usually $1,000.” Inverse argues that the best way to encourage faithless electors is to raise money for their legal fees.

 

and we're off to the races again with more corruption. Too be expected from the people that voted for the most corrupt candidate in the history of the U.S.

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Lol, the electoral college won't vote hrc

If they did then you really would see actual riots

Not these fake riots with paid participants

I mean real riots

But, the so called left loves to steal and they love corruption so I don't fully put it past them

They are a deplorable bunch

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Lol, the electoral college won't vote hrc

If they did then you really would see actual riots

Not these fake riots with paid participants

I mean real riots

But, the so called left loves to steal and they love corruption so I don't fully put it past them

They are a deplorable bunch

I have a very vivid imagination; but seeing what would result in this country, if Trump is fucked out of something he earned, is something I cannot conjure up.

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I have a very vivid imagination; but seeing what would result in this country, if Trump is fucked out of something he earned, is something I cannot conjure up.

I HAVE A SLIGHT CLUE AS OF WHAT JUST "MIGHT" HAPPEN TO LIBERALS IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR CRIMES. HEHEHEHEHE IT WOULDNT BOTHER ME ONE DAMN BIT EITHER

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Trump will be the President. Communists and anarchists are attempting to destroy a presidency that has not even started. 8 years of oblameo have destroyed the dems and now they are unhappy about the results of an election. Pathetic. What are dems going to do about their corrupt party? They will go further to the left, of course. They keep repeating "Our Values" hahahahaaaa. They cannot fathom that THEIR values have been totally repudiated and tossed aside in states and federal gov. by the voters. Stop with the Our Values. Your values run the crime riddled cities of the nation. Your values are the same as hilarities: Sell your office. Elections have consequences. We won, get over it. "What difference, at this point, does it make. it was a movie" hilarity Clinton. Partner in the Clinton Crime family.

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When did any of us get to approve of the f*cking Electoral College?

 

Indeed, when did the people of this country ever approve of ANY of the Constitution?

 

That would be NEVER.

 

Let's say we were given a vote to approve of the Electoral College? What are the odds that it would get approved?

 

I am pretty sure that their endorsement of slavery would not be approved. Seven of the first ten presidents actually owned slaves.

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I have enough respect for the dems to believe the entire party would not want a popular vote to elect the President. My father was a rabid dem but he never would go against election results or attempt to change the constitution because of it. The dem party of my father has been hijacked by communists and socialists who call themselves dems. The public understands this and that is why they elected Trump. It is devastating when everything a young mind believes in is rejected on such a massive scale. Millennials who believe they should be paid to do nothing might be ruined for life. Trump may cut off the lobster tails for the Cal. surfer boy. The horror of it all. Cal. libs now want S. Cal. to secede. Libber popular vote will be gone from Cal. and in a workers paradise. Trump all the way.

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When did any of us get to approve of the f*cking Electoral College?

 

Indeed, when did the people of this country ever approve of ANY of the Constitution?

 

That would be NEVER.

 

Let's say we were given a vote to approve of the Electoral College? What are the odds that it would get approved?

 

I am pretty sure that their endorsement of slavery would not be approved. Seven of the first ten presidents actually owned slaves.

IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME JUST HOW IGNORANT LIBERALS ARE.

 

HERE .....SPEND A LITTLE OVER A HOUR TO EDUCATE YOURSELF LIBERAL FOOL.....THAT WAY YOU WONT HAVE TO SPEND THE REST OF YOUR PATHETIC LIFE BEING STUPID AND UNINFORMED.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ayHf7qbZGA

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My father was a rabid dem but he never would go against election results or attempt to change the constitution because of it. The dem party of my father has been hijacked by communists and socialists who call themselves dems. The public understands this and that is why they elected Trump.

 

Why should anyone give a flying F*ck about your father's opinions? We don't care about yours, you nutball Fascist turd.

 

The PUBLIC did NOT elect Trump. The majority of the PUBLIC voted for Hillary Clinton, you dumb schmuck?

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The Electoral College has given us John Quincy Adams over Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B Hayes over Samuel Tilden, Juniorbush over Al Gore, and a crotch grabbing phony Ogling Pageant Show owner and failed casino operator over the most qualified person ever to run for president.

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My father was a rabid dem but he never would go against election results or attempt to change the constitution because of it. The dem party of my father has been hijacked by communists and socialists who call themselves dems. The public understands this and that is why they elected Trump.

 

Why should anyone give a flying F*ck about your father's opinions? We don't care about yours, you nutball Fascist turd.

 

The PUBLIC did NOT elect Trump. The majority of the PUBLIC voted for Hillary Clinton, you dumb schmuck?

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The Electoral College has given us John Quincy Adams over Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B Hayes over Samuel Tilden, Juniorbush over Al Gore, and a crotch grabbing phony Ogling Pageant Show owner and failed casino operator over the most qualified person ever to run for president.

The most qualified person to ever run for president has been beating by a political out sider and a junior senator from Illinois

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We are getting the new blame game. The dems have lost dramatically. 3 years from now dopes will be saying Trump was never elected. I will be writing oblameo caused it. The previous administration was lax in it's duties. That sounds good. I like the ring of it. Oblameo left a mess. Oblameo doubled the debt. Trump cannot fail. It will be the fault of oblameo. If Trump succeeds it will be Trump was elected over the votes of thousands of dead dems and then he saved the mess that oblameo left. The pope who spoke against Trump will put Trump up for sainthood. What a man!!

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In United States presidential elections, a faithless elector is a member of the United States Electoral College who does not vote for the presidential or vice-presidential candidate for whom they had pledged to vote. That is, they actually vote for another candidate, or fail to vote, or choose not to vote. A pledged elector can become a faithless elector only by breaking their pledge; unpledged electors have no pledge to break.

Electors are typically chosen and nominated by a political party or the party's presidential nominee: they are usually party members with a reputation for high loyalty to the party and its chosen candidate. Thus, a faithless elector runs the risk of party censure and political retaliation from their party, as well as potential criminal penalties in some states. Candidates for elector are nominated by state political parties in the months prior to Election Day. In some states, the electors are nominated in primaries, the same way other candidates are nominated. In some states, such as Oklahoma, Virginia, and North Carolina, electors are nominated in party conventions. In Pennsylvania, the campaign committee of each candidate names their candidates for elector (an attempt to discourage faithless electors). The parties have generally been successful in keeping their electors faithful, leaving out the cases in which a candidate died before the elector was able to cast a vote.

During the 1836 election, Virginia's entire 23-man electoral delegation faithlessly voted against victorious Democratic Party Vice Presidential Candidate Richard Mentor Johnson[1] due to Johnson's openly admitted, publicized, long-term interracial relationship with his slave, Julia Chinn. The loss of Virginia's support caused Johnson to fall one electoral vote short of a majority, causing the Vice Presidential election to be thrown into the U.S. Senate for the only time in American history. However, Virginia's electors voted for Martin Van Buren as pledged, meaning the presidential election itself was not in dispute. The U.S. Senate ultimately elected Johnson anyway after a party-line vote. Despite 157 instances of faithlessness as of 2015, faithless electors have not yet affected the results or ultimate outcome of any other presidential election.

 

Did you see the separation between blue and red geographical voting? How are the homeless shelters in concrete jungles going to feed their voters? Starve or cannibalize off each other you ungrateful social parasites.

 

Last but not least, Trump is an elected mascot, not a leader.

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