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The rates will go up and coverage will go down because this the plan that radical right wing politicians and their privatizing counterparts are pushing. It is a scam on consumers. Politicians will see an increase in their campaign donations which is billed to consumers. Let's not be dumb about this.

 

Insurance rates have been increasing at alarming rates for many many many years. So has campaign spending.

Why is it consumers don't get it?


There are so many screwed up, no common sense, system problems with this cluster fuck program, it's surprising it's lasted this long.

 

Tax dollars pay for Medicare and Medicaid, for the Veterans Administration and the Indian Health Service. Tax dollars pay for health coverage for federal, state, and municipal government employees and their families, as well as for many employees of private companies working on government contracts.

 

Less visible but no less important, the tax deduction for employer-paid health insurance, along with other health care-related tax deductions, also represents a form of government spending on health care.

 

It makes little difference whether the government gives taxpayers (or their employers) a deduction for their health care spending, on the one hand, or collects their taxes then pays for their health care, either directly or via a voucher, on the other.

 

Moreover, tax dollars also pay for critical elements of the health care system apart from direct care—Medicare funds much of the expensive equipment hospitals use, for instance, along with all medical residencies.

 

All told, then, tax dollars already pay for at least $1.4 trillion in annual U.S. health care expenses.

 

Since federal, state, and local governments collected approximately $3.5 trillion in taxes of all kinds—income, sales, property, corporate—in 2006, that means that more than one third of the aggregate tax revenues collected in the United States that year went to pay for health care.

 

Recognizing these hidden costs that U.S. households pay for health care today makes it far easier to see how a universal single-payer system—with all of its obvious advantages—can cost most Americans less than the one we have today.

 

 

Medicare must exist in the fragmented world that is American health care—but no matter how creative the opponents of single-payer get, there is no way they can show convincingly how the administrative costs of a single-payer system could come close to the current level.

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DR. JILL STEIN: It’s not rocket science how to fix this disaster that the Affordable Care Act is. In fact, healthcare costs are skyrocketing.

 

 

It’s now—you know, we pay essentially $3 trillion a year, is what the price tag is for healthcare, when you include government, business and out-of-pocket expenses. One out of every three Americans now cannot afford healthcare.

 

 

Yes, the numbers of coverage have gone up, but there is massive underinsurance, and it is prohibitive.

 

 

The premiums and the deductibles and the copays are just too high, so many people with insurance cannot afford to get it. There is almost half a trillion dollars of needless expense in the Affordable Care Act. This was the boondoggle built in for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, that they are making out like bandits here in a healthcare system based on profit, not based on people.

And the solution is pretty straightforward. We need a Medicare-for-all system, an improved Medicare-for-all system.

Right now 25 percent of healthcare costs are spent on wasteful paper pushing, on CEO salaries, on advertising, etc., on exorbitant pharmaceutical costs like paying $400 for an EpiPen, which contains $1 worth of medication. This is the kind of abuse that is built into this program, because we do not have the capacity to negotiate and do bulk purchasing, which needs to be built in.

Under an improved Medicare-for-all system, that 25 percent overhead is reduced to about 1 percent, 1 to 2 percent overhead.

So it enables us to put our healthcare dollars truly into healthcare, so that you are covered, head to toe, cradle to grave, your mental health, your pharmaceuticals, your hearing aid, your insulin pump, whatever, and your reproductive healthcare and your mental healthcare. And the healthcare decisions are between you and your doctor.

It gets corporations off your back, and it gets CEOs out of the business of deciding and micromanaging your healthcare.

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Dems own it. Not only did they not read it, they never listened to the opposition. Every aspect of this colossal failure was described in minute detail during the debate. Oblameo even threw in a re-insurance plan funded by you to get the ins. co's on board. The re-insurance part of the plan is over and now ins. co's are losing money and bailing out. hahahahaaa. This was predicted. Over and over the opposition said the kids would not sign up. They did not sign up. Ins. Co's raised rates to cover the loses. That was predicted. oblameo said he would insure 30 million. He never came close. That was predicted. Gruber said it was all a lie. That was NOT predicted. hahahahahaaa. Nothing will be done.

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The desperate, high-pitched squealing of you con whores is positively INTOXICATING.

 

LOLOL.

Shut up WHORE! You got NOTHING on this subject! Do you really want to get bitch slapped again??????????

So over one million people losing their health insurance is "INTOXICATING"??? It makes your little panties wet that over a million people will have no coverage after the first of the year unless they find another plan that covers their needs and budget? Stupid WHORE. What about the people that can't go to their specialist that has been keeping them ALIVE??? I guess because you don't have to deal with it, it's fine and dandy. Nothing to see here folks, so just move along.............

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Always been that way, nothing new.

No it hasn't. I sold a lot of under 65 health policies before ACA, and in the 11years prior, I probably had two companies go under and occasionally a company would discontinue a policy, but the person didn't lose network, and they just picked a new plan under that company. The problem now is that there a few if any PPO plans. They are all HMO's and if you doctor isn't in that "LOCAL" network, you are screwed. Lets say you have a child on your plan and you live in WI and your kid goes to school in AZ. You can find a plan here with all your doctors in network, but there is no network in AZ. Because the plans are HMO's your child has no coverage unless it's an emergency. The child has to come home for treatment if it's not emergency or you pay the full bill.

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Shut up WHORE!

I think I'll do exactly what I like, you screeching little pussy - and you're going to take it, and like it, too.

 

You got NOTHING on this subject!

 

I've effortlessly driven you into this drooling hysteria with one little sentence. LOLOL

 

Do you really want to get bitch slapped again??????????

 

LOL. I could finish you off without putting down my beer, you pathetic social reject.

 

So over one million people losing their health insurance is "INTOXICATING"???

 

Your desperate lies are intoxicating. I see you are stupid as well as dickless.

 

It makes your little panties wet that over a million people will have no coverage after the first of the year unless they find another plan that covers their needs and budget?

 

I love how easy it is to drive you pathetic, terrified con whores scuttling straight into your comforting fantasy worlds.

 

Stupid WHORE.

 

Pathetic, weeping little pussy.

 

What about the people that can't go to their specialist that has been keeping them ALIVE??? I guess because you don't have to deal with it, it's fine and dandy. Nothing to see here folks, so just move along

 

Your ridiculous fantasy world of self-comforting bullshit is irrelevant to normal people.

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No it hasn't. I sold a lot of under 65 health policies before ACA, and in the 11years prior, I probably had two companies go under and occasionally a company would discontinue a policy, but the person didn't lose network, and they just picked a new plan under that company. The problem now is that there a few if any PPO plans. They are all HMO's and if you doctor isn't in that "LOCAL" network, you are screwed. Lets say you have a child on your plan and you live in WI and your kid goes to school in AZ. You can find a plan here with all your doctors in network, but there is no network in AZ. Because the plans are HMO's your child has no coverage unless it's an emergency. The child has to come home for treatment if it's not emergency or you pay the full bill.

lol, don't tell me about the losses when 28.8 million Americans lacked health coverage before ACA.

 

I by the way favor 100% National HealthCare paid for by National Oil.

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Plan is great. Ask a dem. GOP should just let it fester until it collapses. If hilarity makes it she will want to screw it up even more. Just say no to dem fixes unless it can be undoubtably proven by ANYBODY that it will save money for subscribers. Plan is fine. As insurance companies leave even hard core dems will scramble for coverage. Do nothing. Gruber admitted it was a lie. GOP should go after any dem that voted for bill. Make it hurt until 2018 blaming dems all the time. That is what the dems would do. Hell, they are still blaming Bush.

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I think I'll do exactly what I like, you screeching little pussy - and you're going to take it, and like it, too.

 

You got NOTHING on this subject!

 

I've effortlessly driven you into this drooling hysteria with one little sentence. LOLOL

 

Do you really want to get bitch slapped again??????????

 

LOL. I could finish you off without putting down my beer, you pathetic social reject.

 

So over one million people losing their health insurance is "INTOXICATING"???

 

Your desperate lies are intoxicating. I see you are stupid as well as dickless.

 

It makes your little panties wet that over a million people will have no coverage after the first of the year unless they find another plan that covers their needs and budget?

 

I love how easy it is to drive you pathetic, terrified con whores scuttling straight into your comforting fantasy worlds.

 

Stupid WHORE.

 

Pathetic, weeping little pussy.

 

What about the people that can't go to their specialist that has been keeping them ALIVE??? I guess because you don't have to deal with it, it's fine and dandy. Nothing to see here folks, so just move along

 

Your ridiculous fantasy world of self-comforting bullshit is irrelevant to normal people.

Name ONE thing in my statement that is a lie. I know more about this subject than you could ever hope to. You want to debate without the name calling, fine, you started it anyway with your potty mouth. Bring it on. Tell me what I lied about.

Name ONE thing in my statement that is a lie. I know more about this subject than you could ever hope to. You want to debate without the name calling, fine, you started it anyway with your potty mouth. Bring it on. Tell me what I lied about.

BTW, my "fantasy world" as you call it, contains real live people (approx. 40) that are losing coverage as of Jan 1 2017. How you (or any other person not directly involved with ACA) can possibly comment on the subject when you know diddly about it, never ceases to amaze me.

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