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Did Hillary seem very restrained re: sextalk video? Maybe just clever.

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After the video of Trump's confession - that he is a rather vile, venal, piggish sexual predator, groper and forced kisser of women, and serial adulterer - surfaced on the preceding Friday, and a great many Republicans, including a number of top Republicans (who hadn't done so already) started un-enforcing T'Rump and disavowing him, and stopped campaing for him....many observers were expecting to see some fireworks over these shockingly negative character revelations and the unprecedented conservative reactions to them, at the Debate.....but Hillary stayed very subdued in her responses and soon moved on to other, more substantial issues affecting America......afterwards many people were wondering why Secretary Clinton hadn't pressed him a bit harder on that issue when he seemed so vulnerable in so many ways....particularly after the moderator brought it up first and T'Rump blithely dismissed the whole thing as "just locker-room talk" before denying (publicly, on record) that he had ever really done any of that (there are witnesses and victims about to jump on that)....and then especially after T'Rump childishly attacked Bill Clinton's supposed sexual transgressions 20 years ago to deflect attention away from his more recent and probably still current depraved behavior....like a four year old child tattling on what her six year old brother supposedly did yesterday in hopes her mother will forget all about the current crayon drawings on the wallpaper right in front of her. Pathetic!


Here's someone making the case that perhaps Hillary was playing a deeper game and did not want to provoke T'Rump into getting any more crazy than his usual error filled incoherent rants....so that he would/could continue stagger along in the race to the end.....because if he dropped out (unlikely, but with T'Rump, who knows) or was forced out somehow (by reason of insanity maybe), she might end up facing someone who is not quite so utterly un-electable as T'Rump is right now......and besides with Trump at the top of the ticket, and so many Republicans turned off by him, there is a reasonable chance that the Democrats could take control of both the Senate and the House.....and then President Clinton could really get started on doing the things America needs to do to adequately deal with the myriad problems facing us and the rest of the world....without the constant, corporate and 1%er greed driven Republican obstructionism that has so much hindered President Obama's programs and goals.


Hillary Clinton is one clever lady and she will make an excellent President for the United States as we confront the rapidly mounting extraordinary challenges of the Twenty-First Century.


Clinton pulled back on a kill shot for a reason: Keep Trump on the ticket


Ben White

15 Hours Ago

Donald Trump survived Sunday night's dark and bitter presidential debate but that's about all he did.


The bar has now been set so low for the GOP nominee that he could do the following on stage in St. Louis and still receive passing grades: suggest that as president he would jail his opponent; defend Vladimir Putin and Russia over the hacking of the U.S. election; praise brutal Syrian tyrant Bashar Assad; admit to not paying federal income tax; and rebuke his own running mate for daring to criticize Russia over the indiscriminate bombing of Syrian civilians.


That's a very partial list.


Trump also lied with enthusiastic regularity, again saying he opposed the second Iraq war before it started (he didn't), claimed his opponent would jack up the tax rate on the middle class (she says she won't) and protested that he did not Tweet at 3 a.m. that people should check out a sex tape featuring a former Miss Universe (he did).


And never mind that Trump spent the first portion of the debate apologizing for a video leaked over the weekend in which he grotesquely bragged about his ability to commit sexual assault because he's a "star." Diving deeply into the gutter, Trump tried to turn the video into a bizarre bank shot attack on Clinton by bringing to the debate women who claim former President Bill Clinton sexually abused them.


Trump, who himself faced a rape allegation from ex-wife Ivana Trump and now faces one from a woman who was 13-years old at the time the alleged act occurred - (Trump has repeatedly denied the allegations) argues that Hillary Clinton is worse than he is because she attempted to smear and intimidate Bill Clinton's accusers, though the evidence for that smearing and intimidation is thin to nonexistent.


Trump also spent the debate wandering around the stage and regularly crowding Clinton's space and glowering over her shoulder like a stalker. When asked by a Muslim-American in the audience how he would deal with "Islamophobia," Trump repeated the debunked claim that witnesses saw "bombs all over the apartment" of the San Bernardino terrorists and failed to report it. There is no evidence that anything like this ever took place.


In any normal election season, Trump's debate performance would be graded a campaign-killing disaster. But 2016 is no ordinary year, and Trump was already so gravely wounded, with Republicans across the country rescinding their endorsements, that his ability to avoid a complete meltdown Sunday night ranks as a "win."


And Clinton for her part opted not to go for the kill shot. She mostly laughed off Trump's attacks and declined to bring up the sexual assault allegations against him, instead pivoting to her own vision for the nation's future. The lack of aggression irritated some Democrats who wanted to see Clinton knock down a staggering opponent.


But the high-road approach appeared to work with voters who declared Clinton the winner of the debate in multiple polls. And Clinton may have held back for strategic reasons, preferring to keep Trump alive rather than bait him into campaign killing moments that could drive him off the ticket in favor of Mike Pence. Clinton would likely win in any scenario but a Trump withdrawal would create significant uncertainty in a race that is now tilting back heavily in Clinton's direction.


Even before the explosive video surfaced over the weekend, Clinton had moved back to a nearly 5-point lead in the RealClear Politics average of general election polls. She has taken back the lead in the battlegrounds of Ohio and Florida and now appears to be a lock in Pennsylvania and Virginia. She has many paths to 270 electoral votes, Trump at the moment has none.


All the usual caveats apply. There is a final debate in nine days in Las Vegas. More damaging information could come out about Clinton. External events could shift the landscape in the GOP nominee's favor. But at the moment, the American people appear to have decided that while they may not like Clinton very much, they find her qualified to serve as president while Trump is not.


And Trump did just well enough in the second debate to stagger to the finish line of a race he is almost certain to lose.

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Trump is a lucky break for Clinton.

....and for the entire Democratic Party, which looks likely to take control of the Senate and possibly even the House of Representitives in Novenber.....ending most Republican obstructionism on many vital matters...and allowing President Clinton to pursue her agenda for improving America.


....and for America and the American people, if we can get some of the vile racist Republicans and corrupt corporate stooges and 'Tea-Bagger' retards out of Congress.

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