rightturnsonly Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Between the liberal and conservative, which one is most obsessed with power over the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 I don't want power. I want what works. Period. So you are obsessed with what works. Does using power over others that won't willingly submit to your ideas "work" best for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMon Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Between the liberal and conservative, which one is most obsessed with power over the other? I know this: I was born with a perfect understanding that my government had the ability to send me overseas to fight and die against my will. That alone helped me embrace some of the more libertarian aspects of liberalism. I also know that the government can tax me to bankruptcy and force me to go to jail because I grew some weed in my own back yard. I do have my issues with authoritarian conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 I know this: I was born with a perfect understanding that my government had the ability to send me overseas to fight and die against my will. That alone helped me embrace some of the more libertarian aspects of liberalism. I also know that the government can tax me to bankruptcy and force me to go to jail because I grew some weed in my own back yard. I do have my issues with authoritarian conservatives. I agree with you on those two issues, the draft bad, weed good. Now put those two issues aside and tell me about your obsession with gaining power to make the other side do what you want them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMon Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I agree with you on those two issues, the draft bad, weed good. Now put those two issues aside and tell me about your obsession with gaining power to make the other side do what you want them to do. With the exception of the ACA, I was all for small government. I'm pro-choice because I think should be a decision between the woman and her doctor. I also believe that a bakery should have the right to refuse to bake for any customers. Kim Davis needed to go to jail for not doing her job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 With the exception of the ACA, I was all for small government. I'm pro-choice because I think should be a decision between the woman and her doctor. I also believe that a bakery should have the right to refuse to bake for any customers. Kim Davis needed to go to jail for not doing her job. There is no way in hell ACA could be implemented with a small government. There are very few exceptions where a pregnancy physically endangers the woman that a doctor would recommend an abortion. As far as the bakery comment, change "right" to "liberty". Kim Davis should have been fired or impeached, not jailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMon Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 There is no way in hell ACA could be implemented with a small government. There are very few exceptions where a pregnancy physically endangers the woman that a doctor would recommend an abortion. As far as the bakery comment, change "right" to "liberty". Kim Davis should have been fired or impeached, not jailed. It's really up to the mother and the doctor for an abortion. Kim Davis couldn't be fired. She could be jailed and was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightturnsonly Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 It's really up to the mother and the doctor for an abortion. So if the mother says she wants an abortion the doctor can say, "no"? It's really not up to the doctor at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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